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Iraqi election predictions....

N8 v2.0

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So what's yours?

I think it will help unify Iraq in a peaceful way.

The bloodshed won't end with the election, but once the people vote and the terrorists see they are in the exteme minority, they will loose their power.
 
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Let's see. They're keeping the lists of candidates secret until just before the poll as well as the actual polling stations themselves. Private cars will be banned from the streets on election day. So even if the people knew who to vote for and where to vote, it'll be impossible for some to actually get there. Not that it matters anyway because I'll be flabbergasted if anyone but Bush's lapdog wins. Democracy, yay.
 
Changleen

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How many people have registered to vote now? Have they cleared 100 yet?

Seriously this is gonna be a farce, but it will undoubtedly be hailed as a great success by certain gorups no matter how utterly, utterly disenfranchising it turns out to be.
 
BurlyShirley

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Transcend said:
i think they should write-in ronald mcdonald. Who could hate a clown with floppy shoes?
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All the victims of John Wayne Gacy and Pennywise I guess.
 
RhinofromWA

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Changleen said:
How many people have registered to vote now? Have they cleared 100 yet?

Seriously this is gonna be a farce, but it will undoubtedly be hailed as a great success by certain gorups no matter how utterly, utterly disenfranchising it turns out to be.
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I don't know, but a caravan of Iraqi citizens left Seattle WA and started something like a 17 or so hour drive to Southern CA to registar. They will repeat the trip to vote within the week. I can't remember how many but they rented a grip load of vans because that was the most affordable way to do it.

I know most US citizens, atleast around Seattle wouldn't drive to SoCal to vote. :think:

I don't predict it going smoothly, but this is also a big undertaking in these conditions. All the secrecy is for a reason.....to attempt and protect the polling stations. The soon to be elected people didn't want their names printed and released early for fear of their own safety.

It will defenately be soemthing to watch.

Rhino
 
TheInedibleHulk

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How can anyone make a legitimate decision if they dont know who the candidates are? What a pile... the fact that they cant announce the candidates just proves that the country is NOT READY for elections.
 
Toshi

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How can anyone make a legitimate decision if they dont know who the candidates are? What a pile... the fact that they cant announce the candidates just proves that the country is NOT READY for elections.
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agreed, but i am not certain this is true. http://www.iwpr.net/archive/apm/apm_001.html lists a few candidates, and i heard about another one on npr a few weeks back...
 
N8 v2.0

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Hummm... it appears that 70%+ of the Iraqi public voted for canidates of their choice for the first time ever in their history. That's more of a percentage than usually bother to vote here in the US for president.

Damn our evil democratic free-market ways!


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Silver

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This is good. Now we can leave, and when the country falls into civil war when the soldiers leave, it's an Iraqi failure, not ours. Then we can use that as another example of how no one but Christians (and occasionally Jews...for this discussion they are honorary Christians) can live under a democracy.

Now, who do we bomb next?
 
Toshi

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what will we do if the iraqis' new govt decides to not deal with us? invade again? anyways, onto iran :dead:
 
N8 v2.0

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Silver said:
This is good. Now we can leave, and when the country falls into civil war when the soldiers leave, it's an Iraqi failure, not ours. Then we can use that as another example of how no one but Christians (and occasionally Jews...for this discussion they are honorary Christians) can live under a democracy.

Now, who do we bomb next?
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Typcial lib....

It must really suck to have so much hate in you for the Bush Administration that you would have such a dismal outlook for a people who desire freedom so much that are willing to risk FAR more than you ever would to get it.

A free Iraq will be yet another nail in the liberal democratic party's coffin.


R.I.P.
 
Changleen

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This does look like a suprisingly good turn out. Go the Iraqi people. It also looks like the US forces actually did a pretty good job of keeping things safe, so good job all round! Let's just hope the resultant government actually represents the will of the Iraqi people rather than pandering to other interests.
 
Silver

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N8 said:
Typcial lib....

It must really suck to have so much hate in you for the Bush Administration that you would have such a dismal outlook for a people who desire freedom so much that are willing to risk FAR more than you ever would to get it.

A free Iraq will be yet another nail in the liberal democratic party's coffin.


R.I.P.
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You're assuming I care about the Democratic party, which is a horrible assumption. I'm un-American, because I don't cheer for political parties like sports teams.

Now, since that's out of the way (in other words, stop reminding me how much I hate America, it's getting tiresome) what do you think the odds are that this little experiment works, and that a strongman doesn't seize power or the Kurds get into a little dustup with the new majority leader?

Because if it doesn't work, you've actively murdered a lot of people with horrible planning. (And no, Cheney's planning on where to store the flowers that the Iraqi people would toss to our GI's doesn't count as post-war planning.)
 
N8 v2.0

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Silver said:
You're assuming I care about the Democratic party, which is a horrible assumption. I'm un-American, because I don't cheer for political parties like sports teams.

Now, since that's out of the way (in other words, stop reminding me how much I hate America, it's getting tiresome) what do you think the odds are that this little experiment works, and that a strongman doesn't seize power or the Kurds get into a little dustup with the new majority leader?

Because if it doesn't work, you've actively murdered a lot of people with horrible planning. (And no, Cheney's planning on where to store the flowers that the Iraqi people would toss to our GI's doesn't count as post-war planning.)
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Bad news for the US = good news for you then?


In the meantime:
Samir Hassan, 32, who lost his leg in a car bomb blast in October, was determined to vote. "I would have crawled here if I had to. I don't want terrorists to kill other Iraqis like they tried to kill me. Today I am voting for peace," he said, leaning on his metal crutches, determination in his reddened eyes.
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Changleen

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Reuters: Iraq Electoral Commission backtracks on turnout: BAGHDAD, Jan 30 (Reuters) – Iraq’s Electoral Commission backtracked on earlier estimates of voter turnout in the election, saying a previous figure of 72 percent “was just an estimate” and indicated the actual figure was lower. At a news conference, commission spokesman Farid Ayar called the 72 percent figure a “guess” and said maybe up to 8 million Iraqis voted, which would be a little over 60 percent of registered voters. “Percentages and numbers come only after counting and will be announced when it’s over … It’s too soon to say that those were the official numbers,” he said. “The numbers are only guessing.”
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So we'll have to wait for the final numbers.
 
Silver

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N8 said:
Bad news for the US = good news for you then?
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Yes, that's exactly what I said. For an adult, you sure stick your fingers in your ears a lot. That must be hard to do with your head up your ass, and yet you manage. I'm truly impressed.
 
chicodude

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N8 said:
How much is FREEDOM again? I don't see it being sold on the NYEX or the NASDAQ...
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Why would you ask that? Not like you are going to have to pay off the war debt, and it's not like you risked you live to achieve it or give it to anyone............
 
syadasti

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So we've already seen the administration calling this a victory. Is it a victory like the one Bush proclaimed on the aircraft carrier at the "end" of the war before the real war started :p
 
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They died – and now we sneer
Daily Telegraph | January 30, 2005 | Leo McKinsry | LINK

The wind moaned gently in the nearby forest of the Vosges mountain. A thick blanket of snow lay on the ground and on the thousands of white crosses that marked the graves of US servicemen who had fallen in France during the Second World War.

With my wife and her aunt Nancy from Pittsburgh, we had come to the American military cemetery at Epinal in eastern France, where 5,200 US soldiers are buried. We were paying tribute to one of those brave men, Private Bill Anderson from Pennsylvania, Nancy's brother, who went through D-Day and then died at the age of just 19 in November 1944 while on a dangerous reconnaissance mission.

As we stood by the headstone, Nancy read out a heart-rending letter to Bill that she had written before leaving America. Full of poignant memories of their young life together, the letter captured the spirit of heroic optimism that had led Bill to give his life for the cause of freedom in Europe. Though I was born almost 20 years after Bill died, I was overwhelmed with gratitude for the sacrifice he had made, a feeling reinforced as I lifted my eyes from his grave towards the arch that overlooks the cemetery. On it were carved words of remembrance for those "citizens of every calling bred in the principles of American democracy".

To European intellectuals, the term "American democracy" is probably an oxymoron. Though such sophisticated cynicism is contradicted by events in Iraq, where – just like in France 60 years ago – US soldiers have been sacrificing their lives to liberate a people from tyranny, anti-Americanism is now written into the European psyche, the last acceptable prejudice in a culture that makes a fetish of racial equality. Indeed, as I walked through the cemetery, my sense of gratitude at Bill's service was accompanied by deep, almost visceral, anger at my fellow Europeans for their constant sneering at America and their gloating over the body count in Iraq, despite all that the USA has done to free Europe in the past from totalitarian dictatorships, whether they be Nazi or communist.

Last week, the world marked the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz. Although it was achieved by the Russian army, it would never have happened without US intervention in western Europe, which forced Germany to fight on two fronts. America's action was purely altruistic. Whereas Russia was engaged in a life-and-death struggle for survival, the USA was not directly threatened by the Nazi domination of Europe.

What sickens me is that we in Europe are fed a constant diet of anti-American propaganda because of the USA's supposed aggression, greed, imperialism or insularity. Yet, at the very same time, we are urged, through the remorseless process of European integration, to embrace Germany, the country responsible for most of the ills of Europe for the past 140 years. Perhaps even worse is the way the experience of Nazism has been used to promote the ideology of multi-culturalism.

Any objection to mass immigration or the destruction of traditional Judaeo-Christian moral values is deemed as racist, akin to support for fascism. As a result, in the name of multi-cultural tolerance, we have allowed the creation of the brutal, anti-democratic monster of Islamism in our midst.

It is a bizarre paradox that the hysteria over Nazism has encouraged Europe to be swamped by Islam, in which anti-Semitism appears to be an integral part of the creed – tellingly, the Muslim Council of Britain refused to take part in the Holocaust commemorations. Instead of falling under the sway of Islam and European federalism, it would be better if Europe followed the values of America, a country that has always understood the meaning of the word "freedom".
 
Damn True

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Silver said:
Yes, that's exactly what I said. For an adult, you sure stick your fingers in your ears a lot. That must be hard to do with your head up your ass, and yet you manage. I'm truly impressed.
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Oh, I finally figured out your little brand of wacko.

Anyone that dosen't reply to one of your posts with the following; "Gee silver, yer right. Please continue to bestow your knowledge upon me."

You haven't posted an original thought in a month. Go ahead and keep repeating your leftist rhetoric. Go ahead and resort to insult because you've run out of intelligent thoughts and viable arguements. Go ahead and keep beating that absurd leftist drum.
 
Silver

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Damn True said:
Oh, I finally figured out your little brand of wacko.

Anyone that dosen't reply to one of your posts with the following; "Gee silver, yer right. Please continue to bestow your knowledge upon me."

You haven't posted an original thought in a month. Go ahead and keep repeating your leftist rhetoric. Go ahead and resort to insult because you've run out of intelligent thoughts and viable arguements. Go ahead and keep beating that absurd leftist drum.
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After your last thread, you lecturing me on "*ist rhetoric" is laughable at best and horrifying at worst.
 
Silver

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Damn True said:
60%
Dang that is freakin AWESOME.
There hasn't been a 60% voter turnout in a US election as long as I have been concious of such things.
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Actually, that's impressive because we don't have to vote in a destroyed country.

Otherwise, the numbers are about the same as here. That +60% quote was of registered voters, it looks like.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4220551.stm

We hit 69% in 2002.
 
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