She was too busy watching Brian puke from alcohol for the first time in helen.Stik, that kid might be mine if only Leigh would have paid closer attention to me at Helen, GA.....
for whatever reason, they manage to under supply each year. I have a feeling they are treating them as gold and controling supply lines to maximize pricing. I had gotten very lucky (can't believe you have to be considered "lucky" to get a complete DH bike in April!!) and my dealer laid hands on the very first one off the truck of the Elite when he found out all the World Cups were going to be claimed before a single one even shipped out. While everyone else was lining up dollars for the World Cup and being told no mas, we went to the front of the line on the Elite.
I think that less of them exist than people actually think. Just because everyone wants a Sunday doesn't mean they have one.
It costs more to produce a Sunday in the US than Taiwan... WAY MORE than $250.
THEY LIE!
who with right mind would buy demo 8 anyway?! this price tag is well suited for all psychos out there
Oh if ONLY someone in this thread actually WAS....hmmmmm....
been discussed plenty of times, read the archives. Motos use inferior manufacturing tecqniques compared to bicycles. There are minimum weight limits for moto racing classes and of course engines. A DH bicycle frame built with moto technology would weigh a MINIMUM of 18 lbs.
A $700 increase is supply and demand. What does the oil in the fork amount to a couple of barrels and opec is tightening their reign on the free world fork market. A frame at $200 maybe $300 is a materials increas but $700 not a chance............. Company made an executive decision to have a better profit margin.
Forgot, the good news is IH owners can now sell last years rigs for what they paid .
LOL. Raw materials 400 bucks? Are you kidding? Theres like maybe 20 pounds of aluminum that going in to producing a DH frame (just the frame, no bearings, shock etc). Aluminum is like what, 2-3 bucks a pound, maybe 5 for really "good" aluminum?
You question me based on what?
Dave...you must be very busy...that's about the least in depth explanation you've went for in a while.
I hope your joking. Theres NO way they don't make money on a $6k bicycle.Dave...you must be very busy...that's about the least in depth explanation you've went for in a while.
As for increasing price on the bikes overall, I came from production too. And I'm a little bit skeptical, but not much. Frame is not modified as far as I can tell this year, so no new tooling, refitting or engineering costs to pass on to the client. It's a second year blueprint frame being fully speced out of the same facility as last year, so cost of production goes DOWN on a second year product. Plus, there are no new piece parts on the bikes this year that can account for a dramatic increase in costs, other than a set of Ti bolts.
If anything, last years pricing should mean more profit this year due to no dramatic startup costs for new designs...or maybe last year the World Cup was sold at a loss (Corvette theory), they are either breaking even or making a small profit this year.
My guess is the corvette theory applied last year so this year, they are actually trying to make a reasonable profit off the Sundays.
Add the increases from market pressures others have mentioned and I guess you're there at $6300.00.
Uh yeah, i was going to type a rebutal but theres too many angles to hit it from and I dont have time.
Is that bad? When did you guys become red commie pinkos?
Le Trogló?actual pic of dw:
that was before I got my platinum GRIIIIILLEactual pic of dw:
i see, i stand corrected. 45 dollars more? 450 dollars more?
