The only people who blather on and on about God, Jesus and the Bible more than Evangelical Christians are Atheists.Are not most of you atheist?
Most of us don't give a shit if you worship Jesus or a head of cabbage.
Um, Pasta....HELLO.....I do like cabbage.
* embraced by many cultures
* besides the occasional eye watering gas emission, I never annoy people by talking about it
* good source of fiber
* inexpensive to acquire, nor have I ever felt compelled to pay more than the asking price at food lion
* I believe in it...mainly because I can see it, smell, and eat it
* has been around well before mithras
* I can easily grow it myself and not have to rely on other people to provide it for me (although I do like how the grimy Thai place down the street cooks it)
* it's a true vegetable
There are extremists within Buddhism, so yes it does.Does that include Buddhism
Lol okay. Look you cannot just Google-fu some verses without any context and call that Research™.
Fixed.the US is never going to make everyone in the world happy.....no matter how many nations we invade.
maybe russia will be taking our place in the middle east soon?Fixed.
although i think if our next president....no matter from what side.....went eight years and just minded his own fucking business....someone would still be mad.Fixed.
Sooo...agnostic it is? Having grown up a preacher's kid who can never remember having ever "believed," that has always seemed to me to be the most reasonable path, although i've found athiesm's rage against the machine appealing at times..Almost by definition...
FWIW, my belief path, as I grew up, was free inquiry, with examination of various religions, all of which were superficially attractive, until one burrowed in and discovered no substantial core, just the demand to believe absent evidence. For a while, in reaction to those in thrall to these fantasies, I announced as an atheist. As age annealed my views, I decided that atheism is arrogant. I have no evidence that god(s) exist, nor that they don't.
Some people take comfort from religious views. I have come to view this as a reaction to fear of the universe, of the unknown, and of the absence of whatever inner strength is necessary to be able to assume responsibility for one's own actions in a confusing and turbulent world.
I believe in right and wrong, but do not feel a need for god(s) or people who claim to represent them to define these values for me.
As a result, comparison of religions seems not particularly useful. Religion might be a piece of what often causes people, alone or in groups, to behave horrendously, but it's a piece, large or small, of a larger pattern.
Actually it does indicate growth and learning. What was once a blind faith built upon a 3000 year old book started to fall apart as I learned more about science and other, earlier religions from the Messopotania. Region. Even in it's simplist form of geology (potential of Black Sea filling being the historical reference) and the flood mythology of all religions prior to Judeo-Christian mythology (Ziusudra, Gilgamesh, and Hindu flood mythology). It is very easy to start piecing together historical reference points in the bible to occurrences known prior to biblical timeline. The more you step away from one religion and become a student to study all, the pillars on which religion is built become painfully weak.Atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. From the Greek atheos, without gods.
And because "one didn't start as an atheist" (but is one now) does not equal progress, growth, learning, etc. Most of us "started" in much better shape physically too. See entropy. "The gradual decline into disorder" is a law of physics. And stuff.
Your rhetoric is strong and very familiar to those of the die hard church goers. As for it being easy to misinterpret, who is to say that your interpretation is correct? There are many, many hypocrisies and conflicting statements within the bible that makes for very difficult reconciliation. And what of the missing books? I cannot remember off hand, but there are a few references to other books, which seem to be missing. Things such as the Dead Sea scrolls which mirror some of the missing books, but contradict future books. (I'm on my phone and too lazy to source it)And what makes you think I even attend church? That I don't read the bible? I absolutely read the bible, and value what it says over the most accurate, educated preacher there is. It's not easy to understand, and is easy to misinterpret, but yes I read the bible.
I think JK answered that sufficiently.Based on your last two paragraphs, I would hate Christians too. Where are you getting this oppression of women, outright hate, etc?
You are associating two very separate things here.And Jesus was not involved in politics. I think that's where a lot of the confusion and mislabeling is coming from. Yes he behaved how socialists claim too (but do not, in the strictest definition, looking at socialist countries). But that is not a contradiction for me to: help others, donate money and resources to those in need, etc in my private life... And to also think the government should not be involved in mandating and "governing" (read: skimming & corrupting) those acts.
Cabbage gives me mighty winds, therefore I like it.I do like cabbage.
......the larger problem is humanityReligion might be a piece of what often causes people, alone or in groups, to behave horrendously, but it's a piece, large or small, of a larger pattern.
Well, that. We're pretty psychotic.......the larger problem is humanity
kind of like how a lot of x-tians justify their bigotry with the bible.It's a convenient excuse and an easy explanation.
"christian principals"kind of like how a lot of x-tians justify their bigotry with the bible.
I'm just saying. I've got 50 pieces of silver and can easily acquire a goat... I mean, I'm just following the book verbatim."christian principals"
Make it a cow, and you've got a deal.I'm just saying. I've got 50 pieces of silver and can easily acquire a goat... I mean, I'm just following the book verbatim.
That's not what the book says. I can have (marry) a raped daughter for 50 pieces of silver and a goat. I'm just trying to follow the book verbatim.Make it a cow, and you've got a deal.
Oh right, because the jews weren't allowed to bargain shop.That's not what the book says. I can have (marry) a raped daughter for 50 pieces of silver and a goat. I'm just trying to follow the book verbatim.
Not according to the book. It had a price. I'm just reading what the book tells me. There is no other interpretation that can be had. Just what the book says. Only silver and a goat for you.Oh right, because the jews weren't allowed to bargain shop.
Sounds like somebody gets a free trip to the Bong Shed - lucky bastard.......I'm just going to be stoning you when I get there, so...
I seem to recall the book saying something about He who is without sin casting the first stone. Remove thine plank from thine eye fornicator! I remember the shenanigans of your former avatar! Does Jesus have thine hoodie?I'm not sure why you are challenging this though, because I'm just going to be stoning you when I get there, so...
I read the popular parts of the book and asked Jesus for forgiveness. He told me that all of those horrible things i did in the past are forgiven. Now shut up and stop avoiding the rocks.I seem to recall the book saying something about He who is without sin casting the first stone. Remove thine plank from thine eye fornicator! I remember the shenanigans of your former avatar! Does Jesus have thine hoodie?
It's in Leviticus. If you want a slave they have to be foreigners. I suggest Mexico or Canada. MMike is available I suppose.hey stoney, which is the part that allows me to take 'squeeb as a slave?
you're foreign enough. BACK TO WORK.It's in Leviticus. If you want a slave they have to be foreigners. I suggest Mexico or Canada. MMike is available I suppose.
You can!Can I get a couple nice 19 year old Swedes?
- Leviticus 25:44-4644 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you. 45Then, too, it is out of the sons of the sojourners who live as aliens among you that you may gain acquisition, and out of their families who are with you, whom they will have produced in your land; they also may become your possession. 46You may even bequeath them to your sons after you, to receive as a possession; you can use them as permanent slaves. But in respect to your countrymen, the sons of Israel, you shall not rule with severity over one another.
how do you handle slaves for inheritance tax purposes? 3/5?You can!
- Leviticus 25:44-46
You render unto ceaser, duh.how do you handle slaves for inheritance tax purposes? 3/5?
It's in Leviticus. If you want a slave they have to be foreigners. I suggest Mexico or Canada. MMike is available I suppose.
Shane covered it.hey stoney, which is the part that allows me to take 'squeeb as a slave?
You render unto ceaser, duh.
Wrong book. You're referencing the constitution:how do you handle slaves for inheritance tax purposes? 3/5?
Constitution said:Article I, Section. 2 [Slaves count as 3/5 persons]
Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons (i.e., slaves).
tell that to the jesus peopleWrong book. You're referencing the constitution
Wait. Jesus didn't write the Constitution? Now I'm confused again.tell that to the jesus people
It's in Leviticus. If you want a slave they have to be foreigners. I suggest Mexico or Canada. MMike is available I suppose.
Don't you give facts per The Book! The interpretation of The Book is a right provided by my religion and the Constitution. Which was written by Jesus.To those Christians who dismiss the violent and weird shit in the Old Testament, as well, old and not applicable to modern christianity, let us not forget that the new testament says in reference to the bible Part I.
It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21 NAB)