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Is it just me or is something about this frame(esp the company???)out of the ordinary

dexterq20

Turbo Monkey
Mar 6, 2003
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Frame looks like a P.O.S., but the parts spec is actually pretty darn nice. However, after assembling Fujis for over a year at my LBS, I would never ride one. They're junk.
 

MikeD

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Evel Monkey said:
Which, in my brief week of owning one, I found to be COMPLETE junk.

Bad tire clearance at any shortish chainstay setting (look how the seatstay yoke is narrow at the top), bad dropout design (big flanges get in the way of taking wheel on/off), and (misleading in the pics! It ships that way, but doesn't assemble that way) an old chameleon-style under-the-chainstay brake mount. Also SO light you have to wonder about its durability...although I'd have happily ridden it if it hadn't been so poorly designed. Geometry was nice, though...that's what suckered me in.

Absolute, complete, and total Taiwan catalog junk. Bikes made in Taiwan can be well-constructed, for sure, but I'm guessing this one was put together from pics a parts catalog. I sure hope it was, anyhow, because otherwise, the designer should be fired.

MD
 

MikeD

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kidwoo said:
fuji bikes? About as suspect as bridgestone.

Thanks Mike. I was considering getting one of those woodmans. Phew.
Bridgestone, eh? I wonder how good of a jump bike Rivendell could build me. I could do front-pannier grab 360-tour-whips on it. Lugged steel in buff and baby blue...mmmmm.

Glad to help someone else avoid a Woodman. Ewwwwwwwwww. Pretty much ruined my 12-hour downhill at Big Bear, and that of my team...

Some of the components seem solid, but avoid the D frame at all costs. (Hell, the other frames might be great...I don't know...)

MD
 

kidwoo

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MikeD said:
Bridgestone, eh? I wonder how good of a jump bike Rivendell could build me. I could do front-pannier grab 360-tour-whips on it. Lugged steel in buff and baby blue...mmmmm.

Glad to help someone else avoid a Woodman. Ewwwwwwwwww. Pretty much ruined my 12-hour downhill at Big Bear, and that of my team...

Some of the components seem solid, but avoid the D frame at all costs. (Hell, the other frames might be great...I don't know...)

MD
I think ANY hardtail would ruin a DH race for me. :help: But yeah, that's the one I was looking at. I got a can o' ale chase instead. (bout half an hour ago actually)

I think you just dated yourself (as I am about to do the same to myself). You don't remember Bridgestone bikes?? Those things were pretty much teh chit in the late 80s. Seriously. Fuji was in the mix too. Ask dhtahoe. He invented them.
 

MikeD

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kidwoo said:
I think ANY hardtail would ruin a DH race for me. :help: But yeah, that's the one I was looking at. I got a can o' ale chase instead. (bout half an hour ago actually)

I think you just dated yourself (as I am about to do the same to myself). You don't remember Bridgestone bikes?? Those things were pretty much teh chit in the late 80s. Seriously. Fuji was in the mix too. Ask dhtahoe. He invented them.
Rivendell is a custom touring bike company, and one of the owners used to be a designer for Bridgestone...maybe I over-dated myself. But in reality, I'm just a 28 year old trivia geek.
 

Enginerd A2

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Feb 20, 2002
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I would rock that Fuji, if I got a hookup on it. It looks nice, but I don't think it would be close to the top of my list if I had to pay full retail (which I currently do). I was always interested in that Woodman, too, until I read this thread. I do think Rivendell's are really cool, but for how little I ride on the road, it'll be awhile before I can justify the cash outlay. Maybe not ever, but for some reason I have quite a thing for the Quickbeam: http://www.sheldonbrown.org/quickbeam/ I love my fixed gear ghetto-'cross bike (a Raleigh beater with 'cross tires)
 

Tootrikky

Monkey
Jul 31, 2003
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Fuji MTB's suck IMO, they don't have anyone with real MTB backround helpiung design their frames.

They are a company though that has a lot of potential. They are part of Ideal in Tawain. Unlike most bike companies now days they have way more control of their manufacturing process. Specialized, Intense, Santa Cruz, etc, etc all have outside vendors manufacture their frames. Fuji and Giant are two of the only Tawian companies's I can think of, that make their own bikes that and are probably are becoming more profitable each year. they are the future of cycling, if they get on board and really comitted to our side of the sport , who knows they proably could build make some steeds that would truly rock and cost way less.
 

dexter

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Sep 23, 2001
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wow a bunch of my post didnt show up, but i meant to say it looks nice kinda like a horrible doc. the parts spec is pretty dope, and for someone who doesnt work in a shop i bet you could buy the complete bike and get a nice frame and sell the old one (or build it up for commuting) and come out cheaper than buying individual parts.


still id be interested to see if it actually holds up to abuse.
 

biker3

Turbo Monkey
MikeD said:
Which, in my brief week of owning one, I found to be COMPLETE junk.

Bad tire clearance at any shortish chainstay setting (look how the seatstay yoke is narrow at the top), bad dropout design (big flanges get in the way of taking wheel on/off), and (misleading in the pics! It ships that way, but doesn't assemble that way) an old chameleon-style under-the-chainstay brake mount. Also SO light you have to wonder about its durability...although I'd have happily ridden it if it hadn't been so poorly designed. Geometry was nice, though...that's what suckered me in.

Absolute, complete, and total Taiwan catalog junk. Bikes made in Taiwan can be well-constructed, for sure, but I'm guessing this one was put together from pics a parts catalog. I sure hope it was, anyhow, because otherwise, the designer should be fired.

MD
HAHAH I agree, I have a friend although a big guy, he completaly broke his in half at whistler casing one of the smaller DJs in the park. He walked away with a completaly ripped off HT and a messed up face....
 

meatboot

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Jul 28, 2004
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MikeD said:
Bridgestone, eh? I wonder how good of a jump bike Rivendell could build me. I could do front-pannier grab 360-tour-whips on it. Lugged steel in buff and baby blue...mmmmm.
MD
That is one of the few genuinely amusing things I have read on RM. My all time best bike industry prank call was leaving a message at Rivendell asking about their new recumbent model and giving the name and number of my friend who worked as the sales manager of another shop. Apparently, Grant called him up and gave him a 45 minute lecture on why recumbents weren't really bikes.

Since lugged bikes came up, and on a slightly more serious note, I've always wondered when Waterford/Gunnar would come out with a jump bike. It would seem like a natural project for them since they weld Standard BMX bikes too.
 

DHS

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Apr 23, 2002
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MikeD said:
Which, in my brief week of owning one, I found to be COMPLETE junk.

Bad tire clearance at any shortish chainstay setting (look how the seatstay yoke is narrow at the top), bad dropout design (big flanges get in the way of taking wheel on/off), and (misleading in the pics! It ships that way, but doesn't assemble that way) an old chameleon-style under-the-chainstay brake mount. Also SO light you have to wonder about its durability...although I'd have happily ridden it if it hadn't been so poorly designed. Geometry was nice, though...that's what suckered me in.

Absolute, complete, and total Taiwan catalog junk. Bikes made in Taiwan can be well-constructed, for sure, but I'm guessing this one was put together from pics a parts catalog. I sure hope it was, anyhow, because otherwise, the designer should be fired.

MD
hey you have anymore info on your build. i just built one up for a buddy. the rear dropouts are FREAKIN wide. what the hell. i'll post a thread about it with pics. but anything else i should worry about it?
thanks
 

DHS

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Apr 23, 2002
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Sand, CA
meatboot said:
That is one of the few genuinely amusing things I have read on RM. My all time best bike industry prank call was leaving a message at Rivendell asking about their new recumbent model and giving the name and number of my friend who worked as the sales manager of another shop. Apparently, Grant called him up and gave him a 45 minute lecture on why recumbents weren't really bikes.

Since lugged bikes came up, and on a slightly more serious note, I've always wondered when Waterford/Gunnar would come out with a jump bike. It would seem like a natural project for them since they weld Standard BMX bikes too.
i was waiting for Gunnar to do such a thing. that would rock, but i don't think they want to deal with the headache of such a thing. some random kid puts the monster t on the front and cases jump.
my Rockhound was awsome...until i sold it for lots of money.
 

MikeD

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DHS said:
hey you have anymore info on your build. i just built one up for a buddy. the rear dropouts are FREAKIN wide. what the hell. i'll post a thread about it with pics. but anything else i should worry about it?
thanks
Hey, I PM'd you...but there's really nothing more that I remember about the frame than what I posted. Gave you a little more detail on the problems, but if you've already built it, you've probably already dealt with every issue I had. Hope it works out for him...like I said, it would have been a nice ride if those (significant) quirks hadn't been such issues for me.

MD