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rpk1988

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That thing is ugly to say the least. Looks longer then a Matrix though. I would think it looks more like a Pacific/Freestyle thing.
 

Barbaton

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May 11, 2002
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rpk1988 said:
That thing is ugly to say the least. Looks longer then a Matrix though. I would think it looks more like a Pacific/Freestyle thing.
You know, I think you're right. I bet it is a Pacifica/Freestyle as a mercedes. it is the same company afterall...
 

Mike B.

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Oct 5, 2001
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I for one am glad to see the return of the station wagon although some refuse to call them what they are. Give me cargo room, the ability to tow a small trailer, and sporty handling/power. Europe is covered with the practical wagons and there usually isn't an SUV in sight.

Now with that said, I may be selling my truck for an SUV because the truck doesn't fit my needs right now and the wagons aren't what I need them to be quite yet.
 

Barbaton

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Barbaton said:
You know, I think you're right. I bet it is a Pacifica/Freestyle as a mercedes. it is the same company afterall...
courtesy of Car and Driver:

For some reason, it's taken Mercedes-Benz two extra years to get its version of the Chrysler Pacifica to market. There's little differing this Vision R show car from the production R Class that will be shown at the Detroit show in January, so we lumped it in with the production cars. The R Class will feature six-passenger seating and all-wheel drive with Mercedes' new 3.5-litre V-6 initially offered. Sharing a platform with the new M Class (that will also debut at Detroit), both vehicles will come from Mercedes' Alabama U.S. plant.
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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i think the mercedes gets something ridiculous like a seven speed automatic tho. :drool:
 

Toshi

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i found out that japan/europe (and probably NZ) report RON octane. ours is (RON + MON)/2, so our "92 octane" might be more like your 98 or whatever...
 

Toshi

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Oct 23, 2001
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we have high power/liter cars: honda s2000 for one, especially before its displacement was bumped up. what particular high hp/l car are you thinking of that's not available on these shores?

we also have low hp/l cars, too, but they are generally designed to run on 87 octane. different market.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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Jan 30, 2003
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Toshi said:
i found out that japan/europe (and probably NZ) report RON octane. ours is (RON + MON)/2, so our "92 octane" might be more like your 98 or whatever...
yup, thats the deal. our 97oct is around the same, in terms of preignition handling, as premium US gas.
 

TreeSaw

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Mike B. said:
I for one am glad to see the return of the station wagon although some refuse to call them what they are. Give me cargo room, the ability to tow a small trailer, and sporty handling/power. Europe is covered with the practical wagons and there usually isn't an SUV in sight.

Now with that said, I may be selling my truck for an SUV because the truck doesn't fit my needs right now and the wagons aren't what I need them to be quite yet.
Have you looked at the Chevy Equinox? It's a small SUV, gets good gas mileage for an AWD, can tow quite a bit and has lots of cargo room. Plus, it looks like a Pacifica/station wagon. I have had mine a year and love it! VERY comfy to drive/ride and can haul TONS of stuff (including 4 bikes--2 on the roof and 2 on my hitch or 2 bikes, gear and my snowmobiles)!