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Is it normal for frames to come from the factory with dry bearings?

Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by dfinn, May 15, 2011.

  1. dfinn

    dfinn Turbo Monkey

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    Yesterday I was getting a pretty annoying and loud clunk from my TR450. Today I fully disassembled it and gave it some TLC. I noticed that every single bearing felt awful, including the large pivot bearing, really notchy and not smooth. I got the frame last October, rode it a little in the fall, put it away for winter and have about 10 days on it so far this season so it really hasn't seen a whole lot of use and it's very rarely ridden in any kind of moisture. I was able to pull the bearing seals off and pack them with grease, most of them came back to life but a couple are still pretty notchy.

    Is it pretty standard for bearings to come dry? Maybe I should've torn it apart as soon as I got it and packed all the bearings?
     

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    It defenetly shouldn't come like that, thats really weird that it did...
     
  3. ride

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    you've probably never washed the bike eh?
     
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    Well, did you check the "Yes, grease my bearings" box when you bought it?
     
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    Is it made by rockshox?

    But srsly, might be pressure washing blasting out the grease, and then sitting for a winter. I was also under the impression that most bearings were sealed and not re-lube able.
     
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    I had the same issue with my Trek. All I did was undo each of the pivot bolts one at a time, then using a pin carefully lift the seal off and repack with grease then put it all back together and repeat till all was good. Did it the other day again and its good to go for another 6 months. I have ordered some new ones for next time I get the shock rebuilt.
     
  7. dfinn

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    Of course I washed it, it was a brand new $5,000 bike. But I never pressure washed it. I just rinsed it off with the hose. If washing like I did does that to the bearings I would hate to see what a couple of seasons in the PNW would do.
     
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    That's probably just because you never tried it.


    It's no rocket surgery.
     
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    IT can happen,the bearings come from a supplier.

    Supplier will have oddball amounts of defects that pass like anything else.
     
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    I really don't see much to complain about. You got a couple months out of your bearings which went through bike washings and then sat...

    If you get water in your bearings and let them sit, they rust/correct/seized faster than if you regularly use them. Further more, most bearings last no more than a few months running smooth before they start to get rough due to their limited rotation, although most of the time it is tough to feel it without pulling the shock or bearings.
    Have you ever gone on a really nasty muddy ride where there is mud caked all over your bike, you get done riding and hose it off, give it a bit of a scrub and hang it up for a week only to pull it down the next weekend only to find your bottom bracket/hubs are seized or have extra resistance? Same thing.

    It's not anything that's Transitions fault.
     
  11. dfinn

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    No, actually I've never had a bottom bracket or hub seize up from washing the bike and then letting it sit for too long. I don't believe I hosed the bike off before putting it away for the winter but let's assume I did, my hubs, BB and headset were all smooth as new.

    I'm not saying it's anyone's fault, and if it was I guess it would be whoever transition uses for a bearing supplier. I guess I just assumed that this wouldn't be something I'd have to worry about for a while on a new, high end frame.
     
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    what color were the bearing seals?
     
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    I'm pretty sure they were dark blue. I think the main pivot bearing might have been black.
     
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    most likely enduro steel ball bearing.

    My 2 cents: call the shop where you bought it and give them the full story. 9 times out of 10, they will either hook you up or at least give you some bearings for wholesale or something. It has been about 7 months so unless you are letting water run through the bearings after each ride, the shop should help you out. and even if you are, they should help out of good faith.
     
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    My TR450 bearings were stuffed when I replaced them after a year of riding and jet-washing my bike. But they still had grease in them, so I can only assume yours was stolen - probably by midgets.
     
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    This.

    Sheesh.

    Friggin republicans! :p:p:p:p:p:p:p
     
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    grease stealin' midgets..

    you heard it on RM first..
     
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    Bearings don't last a couple of season up here. I pull mine apart every few weeks and have to re-grease them. They are almost always dry and crunchy after that amount of time. I don't even have a hose to use for cleaning my bike, I have to use a bucket and a brush. Water, dirt, and hard riding does lots of damage to moving parts.

    People spent time worrying about sticktion in their shocks and then will neglect their bearings. :rofl:

    -KT