Depends on how crazy you wanted to go, i added up close to 600g before i even got to the bars
IS SUB 40 lbs POSSIBLE? How
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Depends on how crazy you wanted to go, i added up close to 600g before i even got to the bars
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J5ive
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Yeah sorry mate. Looking at those numbers, we are going to have to call BS on your weight
Post some more specs and prove us wrong!
Theres weight savings to be had on what I listed. But not a huge about. Middleburns will save 200 grams or so, and you might ditch another 200 with a super light post and seat. After that though there is not much room for improvement.
Post some more specs and prove us wrong!
Theres weight savings to be had on what I listed. But not a huge about. Middleburns will save 200 grams or so, and you might ditch another 200 with a super light post and seat. After that though there is not much room for improvement.
here's a few numbers for you. There's even lighter if you so chose
dt swiss 5.1 , 500g ea -100g
spokes, 300g -130g
da cassette 143g -13g
cable 50g -10g
cranks (tons below 1000g, depending on bb length, XT's / deity's w/Ti spindle, hone's, etc) -100g at least
e13 guidering 44g -16g
selle SLR 140g -110g
post - cut thomson masterpiece -60g
extralite seatpost clamp 9g -10g
there's 550g already
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J5ive
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Oh yeah, there is defiantly lighter. Just trying to work out how light his build really is.
You can save a bunch going to high rollers too. Especially if you can find a 2.35 rear.
Its an 83 shell right? Lightest option is going to be middleburns. About 800 grams with an fsa 83mm bb.
You can save a bunch going to high rollers too. Especially if you can find a 2.35 rear.
Its an 83 shell right? Lightest option is going to be middleburns. About 800 grams with an fsa 83mm bb.
Here you goJ5ive said:
Does it matter guys, really? The frame is a 160mm travel all-mountain frame. Not a DH frame. The frame could quite easily weigh 8lbs or less.
It serves me right for clicking on the thread I suppose, but jeez...
It serves me right for clicking on the thread I suppose, but jeez...
Still looks like a 4x frame.
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J5ive
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I was refering to the DH rig, not the all mountain thing.
30.2lbs is not bad for an All-Mountain bike with 160mm of travel.Here you go
you can go that low, i did this with my friend the other day
(correct me if i'm wrong on any weights please)
frame-intense socom-about 6.37lbs w/o shock (correct me if im wrong, im not 100% on this weight)
headset-chris king ti-98g
BB-FSA ti-158g
breaks-formula puro-418g front-351g rear
bars-truvativ team carbon-170g
shifter-xo-115g
derailluer-xo short-192g
fork-boxxer wc-2766g
stem-syntace superforce-140g (couldnt find weight of e13 integrated)
wheels-721's-550g x2
sapin blade spokes-139g x2
front hub-chris king-207g
rear hub-hope pro II-300g
tires-dhf UST 2.5-1270g x2 (i know there are lighter, but im trying to keep it dh, and couldnt find 2.35 in 2ply)
guide-lg1-195g
chain-around 300g?
cranks-middleburn rs7 165 w/ 34t chainring and spider-505g
saddle-i fly-112g
post-ibeam carbon-175g
shock-dhx 5.0 air-450g
cassette-dura ace 11/21-150g
pedals-wellgo mg1-376g(many more options)
grips-100g?
stans strips-56g x2
total- 11308g+2888.54468g(frame w/o shock)=14196.54468=31.3lbs total
plus a little more with cables and brake lines
(correct me if i'm wrong on any weights please)
frame-intense socom-about 6.37lbs w/o shock (correct me if im wrong, im not 100% on this weight)
headset-chris king ti-98g
BB-FSA ti-158g
breaks-formula puro-418g front-351g rear
bars-truvativ team carbon-170g
shifter-xo-115g
derailluer-xo short-192g
fork-boxxer wc-2766g
stem-syntace superforce-140g (couldnt find weight of e13 integrated)
wheels-721's-550g x2
sapin blade spokes-139g x2
front hub-chris king-207g
rear hub-hope pro II-300g
tires-dhf UST 2.5-1270g x2 (i know there are lighter, but im trying to keep it dh, and couldnt find 2.35 in 2ply)
guide-lg1-195g
chain-around 300g?
cranks-middleburn rs7 165 w/ 34t chainring and spider-505g
saddle-i fly-112g
post-ibeam carbon-175g
shock-dhx 5.0 air-450g
cassette-dura ace 11/21-150g
pedals-wellgo mg1-376g(many more options)
grips-100g?
stans strips-56g x2
total- 11308g+2888.54468g(frame w/o shock)=14196.54468=31.3lbs total
plus a little more with cables and brake lines
you can go that low, i did this with my friend the other day
(correct me if i'm wrong on any weights please)
frame-intense socom-about 6.37lbs w/o shock (correct me if im wrong, im not 100% on this weight)
headset-chris king ti-98g
BB-FSA ti-158g
breaks-formula puro-418g front-351g rear
bars-truvativ team carbon-170g
shifter-xo-115g
derailluer-xo short-192g
fork-boxxer wc-2766g
stem-syntace superforce-140g (couldnt find weight of e13 integrated)
wheels-721's-550g x2
sapin blade spokes-139g x2
front hub-chris king-207g
rear hub-hope pro II-300g
tires-dhf UST 2.5-1270g x2 (i know there are lighter, but im trying to keep it dh, and couldnt find 2.35 in 2ply)
guide-lg1-195g
chain-around 300g?
cranks-middleburn rs7 165 w/ 34t chainring and spider-505g
saddle-i fly-112g
post-ibeam carbon-175g
shock-dhx 5.0 air-450g
cassette-dura ace 11/21-150g
pedals-wellgo mg1-376g(many more options)
grips-100g?
stans strips-56g x2
total- 11308g+2888.54468g(frame w/o shock)=14196.54468=31.3lbs total
brake rotors? spoke nipples? seat post clamp? crank bolts? chainring bolts?
O.K. here´s the Partslist, just check out the weights 4 yourself, i don´t want to take the whole bike apart......
Imperial Screw on Grips 85g
Easton Monkeylight DH Bar 220g
E13 Ali Boxxer Stem 130g
Ti Screws
Boxxer WC 2730g
Ritchey Pro integrated Headset 90g
Hope Pro 2 Hubs 290g Rear 195g Front
DT Swiss Aerolite Spokes
DT Proloc Nipples
DT5.1Rim front 500g
DT6.1 Rim Rear 640g
Maxxis Minion DH 2.5 Front/Front
Schwalbe AV13 Tubes (185g)
Rimtape (Ducktape) 8g for both wheels
Alloy rear axle
Sram X.9 Trigger
Sram x.0 Derailleur with carbonfiber arm
Formula Oro Puro Brakes 200mm front, 180mm rear about 830g complete
Come with Kevlar hoses
Saint Crank with 83mm BB 1200g
E13 LG1 Chain device 215
E13 Chainwheel 40T 56g
CMP Pedals 560g
Shimano Dura Ace Cassette 11-27
Shimano HG 73 Chain
Havoc Seatpost
Fi:zik Gobi Saddle
Frame
Should be all.....
The weight on the display is 16.73kg
That´s what it is......
Greetz, Cannon
Imperial Screw on Grips 85g
Easton Monkeylight DH Bar 220g
E13 Ali Boxxer Stem 130g
Ti Screws
Boxxer WC 2730g
Ritchey Pro integrated Headset 90g
Hope Pro 2 Hubs 290g Rear 195g Front
DT Swiss Aerolite Spokes
DT Proloc Nipples
DT5.1Rim front 500g
DT6.1 Rim Rear 640g
Maxxis Minion DH 2.5 Front/Front
Schwalbe AV13 Tubes (185g)
Rimtape (Ducktape) 8g for both wheels
Alloy rear axle
Sram X.9 Trigger
Sram x.0 Derailleur with carbonfiber arm
Formula Oro Puro Brakes 200mm front, 180mm rear about 830g complete
Come with Kevlar hoses
Saint Crank with 83mm BB 1200g
E13 LG1 Chain device 215
E13 Chainwheel 40T 56g
CMP Pedals 560g
Shimano Dura Ace Cassette 11-27
Shimano HG 73 Chain
Havoc Seatpost
Fi:zik Gobi Saddle
Frame
Should be all.....
The weight on the display is 16.73kg
That´s what it is......
Greetz, Cannon
im pretty sure rotors ar included, but yea, nipples clamp andbolts i forgot.
alloy nipples 20g?
carbon clamp-10g?
bolts, i have no idea
it's still probably the lightest dh build possible with dh tires
alloy nipples 20g?
carbon clamp-10g?
bolts, i have no idea
it's still probably the lightest dh build possible with dh tires
Chances are they aren't included. I've never heard of a company including the weight of the rotor, usually just the caliper/lever and sometimes an adapter... I dunno, I could be wrong though.
Where did you get that Socom frame figure? Is that with shock hardware, dropouts, axle (if 150mm), and all the bearings and stuff in the linkage? that just seems TOO light! (so sweet if that's correct though)
the frame weight on the website is 8.5 w/ swinger 6 and steel spring, so i did a little math, but it was somewhat of an apporximation, sao maybe the total weight is around 33 or 34 at the most
it has 135mm stock, its a sick bike for sure
I've seen a pic of the medium Socom on the scale with a revox and ti spring, and seat collar 8.86lbs
socom is a slick bike, It's going to be intresting to see the builds and whos riding em. (privateer/semi privateer)
Feedback and reliability as well as warranty on those bad boys is gonna be my concern.
Feedback and reliability as well as warranty on those bad boys is gonna be my concern.
As long as we are breaking grams down and there is a ton of weight knowledge here.
Spec my build for loss but still usable. (assuming i weigh 160 and race dh mainly) Although I weigh 215 and huck as well.
As it sits now . (3 extra scoops of stans per tire: weighs 40.6 with my light
)
Karp armageddon
avy DHS ti spting
xtfcm960 cranks
gammut p20 chainguide
xpedo mx3 pedals
888rc2x wc fork
db stem (integrated) 238g
answer pro taper 31.8os bars
hope mono 6ti's w/ 205mm rotors DB levers and goodridge ss lines
dee max rims (ex729)
King hubs
kenda 2.5 singleply (bluegroove/nevegal) tubeless
x.9 rear shift/der
xt cassette
sdg ibeam
sdg i-fly saddle
king headset
Spec my build for loss but still usable. (assuming i weigh 160 and race dh mainly) Although I weigh 215 and huck as well.
As it sits now . (3 extra scoops of stans per tire: weighs 40.6 with my light
)Karp armageddon
avy DHS ti spting
xtfcm960 cranks
gammut p20 chainguide
xpedo mx3 pedals
888rc2x wc fork
db stem (integrated) 238g
answer pro taper 31.8os bars
hope mono 6ti's w/ 205mm rotors DB levers and goodridge ss lines
dee max rims (ex729)
King hubs
kenda 2.5 singleply (bluegroove/nevegal) tubeless
x.9 rear shift/der
xt cassette
sdg ibeam
sdg i-fly saddle
king headset
Nice dirt bag! Like the looks of that bad boy.
one full scoop of stans weighs 55g
Nice dirtbag. Is that a maxxis holy roller on the back?
AAAAH! Min 4 per tire. I have a Stans fetish.
irate2: no I go from 1-2 to 3-5 depending on the time of the month and my bloating
As it sits now . (3 extra scoops of stans per tire: weighs 40.6 with my light )
Karp armageddon
avy DHS ti spting
xtfcm960 cranks
gammut p20 chainguide
xpedo mx3 pedals
888rc2x wc fork
db stem (integrated) 238g
answer pro taper 31.8os bars
hope mono 6ti's w/ 205mm rotors DB levers and goodridge ss lines
dee max rims (ex729): 675g (EX 721: 590g = 170g savings)
King hubs
kenda 2.5 singleply (bluegroove/nevegal) tubeless
x.9 rear shift/der
xt cassette: 294g [dura-ace 11-25: 175g= 120g savings]
sdg ibeam
sdg i-fly saddle
king headset
lighter spokes (don't know what you're running now)
sram X.0 short cage w/ the road cassette (or shimano road derailleur (i run a 105 for 50 or so grams of savings over the x9 plus they only cost like $25)
)Karp armageddon
avy DHS ti spting
xtfcm960 cranks
gammut p20 chainguide
xpedo mx3 pedals
888rc2x wc fork
db stem (integrated) 238g
answer pro taper 31.8os bars
hope mono 6ti's w/ 205mm rotors DB levers and goodridge ss lines
dee max rims (ex729): 675g (EX 721: 590g = 170g savings)
King hubs
kenda 2.5 singleply (bluegroove/nevegal) tubeless
x.9 rear shift/der
xt cassette: 294g [dura-ace 11-25: 175g= 120g savings]
sdg ibeam
sdg i-fly saddle
king headset
lighter spokes (don't know what you're running now)
sram X.0 short cage w/ the road cassette (or shimano road derailleur (i run a 105 for 50 or so grams of savings over the x9 plus they only cost like $25)
the spec I have isn't anything really special. I didn't compromise at the wheels, but have some lighter parts through out that help. I know that my bike isn't the lightest out there, but it is exactly how I race it and don't have to worry about anything failing either. No sketchy parts.
Light things:
Carbon Juicys 205 f/r
Carbon XO ****
Gamut P40
Stylo 170 Cranks and BB (that's the real trick!)
Most of the rest of it is pretty normal stuff.
Is that front and rear combined?
and the formulas work GREAT, TONS of power, TONS of modulation, GREAT service.
I'll try and ride some this spring at one of the races and see. I have a hard time losing a little when it comes to stopping.
I have had those 6ti's red hot and tinging from a huge DH that teeters more vert than descent from the cell towers.
AAAHH! I know better than to touch them though. I saw somewhere a rotor burn on a persons arm. OUCH! Make for a really cool story though.
I have had those 6ti's red hot and tinging from a huge DH that teeters more vert than descent from the cell towers.
AAAHH! I know better than to touch them though.
I saw somewhere a rotor burn on a persons arm. OUCH! Make for a really cool story though.
I got a burn from the stove one time and that hurt like He11, Cant imagine doin that then havin to ride. I could have hopped homee with all the jumpin up and down though.
I think I shaved 40g off the palms though.
AHA! my weight stands at about probably 32lbs with everything, thats dh, maybe 33 with this new frame info, but still, lightest EVER!!!
The Socom frame is with a Medium TI revox and even that weighs 8.86lbs. Your other weights are off as well and that doesn't include the rear axle, and an air shox on the back isn't the smartest idea. Pretend builds are fun thoughAHA! my weight stands at about probably 32lbs with everything, thats dh, maybe 33 with this new frame info, but still, lightest EVER!!!
I am not starting a sub 35lb thread, it'd be you only.
YOU GO JVN!
Put the hurt down.
Put the hurt down.
My build with DH tires, for Trevor
Frame= Intense Socom w/ DHX 5.0 Air 7.25lbs 3288g
Fork= 07 Rock Shox Totem Solo Air Fork 5.9 lbs 2676g
Headset= Chris King No ThreadSet 1 1/8 Inch 98g
BB= FSA MTB Ti Platinum Pro Bottom Bracket 158g
Chain= KMC X-9SL Superlight 252g
Cranks= Middleburn RS7 ISIS 165mm 32t 508g
Chain Guide= Gamut P25 195g
Cassette= Shimano Dura-Ace CS-7700 150g
Pedals= Wellgo MG-1 Magnesium w/ ti spindle 338g
Derailluer= Sram X.0 short cage 192g
Shifter= Sram X.0 trigger shifter 125g
Stem= Syntace Superforce Stem 25.4 45mm 140g
Bars= FSA K Force DH Carbon Riser Bar 160g
Grips=Ruffain 50g?
Seat= Selle San Marco ASPide Comp TT Saddle 100g
Seat post= Easton ec90 Seatpost 160g
Front Hub= Chris King 20mm 207g
Rear Hub= Hope pro2 Rear hub 275g
Rims= Mavic 823 tubeless 580g x 2= 1160g
Nipples= DT Swiss Swiss Alloy Nipples 20g
Spokes= Blade 139 x 2 = 278g
Tires= Slime SRT DH Tubeless 2.35 1150x2 = 2300g
Brake Rear= Formula Puro Disc Brakes160mm 351g
Brake Front= Formula Puro Disc Brakes 180mm 370g
TOTAL=13551g = 29.87
Frame= Intense Socom w/ DHX 5.0 Air 7.25lbs 3288g
Fork= 07 Rock Shox Totem Solo Air Fork 5.9 lbs 2676g
Headset= Chris King No ThreadSet 1 1/8 Inch 98g
BB= FSA MTB Ti Platinum Pro Bottom Bracket 158g
Chain= KMC X-9SL Superlight 252g
Cranks= Middleburn RS7 ISIS 165mm 32t 508g
Chain Guide= Gamut P25 195g
Cassette= Shimano Dura-Ace CS-7700 150g
Pedals= Wellgo MG-1 Magnesium w/ ti spindle 338g
Derailluer= Sram X.0 short cage 192g
Shifter= Sram X.0 trigger shifter 125g
Stem= Syntace Superforce Stem 25.4 45mm 140g
Bars= FSA K Force DH Carbon Riser Bar 160g
Grips=Ruffain 50g?
Seat= Selle San Marco ASPide Comp TT Saddle 100g
Seat post= Easton ec90 Seatpost 160g
Front Hub= Chris King 20mm 207g
Rear Hub= Hope pro2 Rear hub 275g
Rims= Mavic 823 tubeless 580g x 2= 1160g
Nipples= DT Swiss Swiss Alloy Nipples 20g
Spokes= Blade 139 x 2 = 278g
Tires= Slime SRT DH Tubeless 2.35 1150x2 = 2300g
Brake Rear= Formula Puro Disc Brakes160mm 351g
Brake Front= Formula Puro Disc Brakes 180mm 370g
TOTAL=13551g = 29.87
1.5 head tube, 823's weigh more than that because of their special eyelet/nipple, shifter cables, crank bolts.... just sayin'