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sanjuro

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/15/us/15utah.html?hp

List Prompts Anxious Calls From Hispanics in Utah

By KIRK JOHNSON

SALT LAKE CITY — A list of 1,300 Utah residents, with the words “illegal immigrants” marked across the top of each page, has sparked panic among some Hispanics in this state.

The list, which contains details and notation about each person — from home address and telephone number to date of birth and, in the case of pregnant women, their due dates — was sent to law enforcement and media outlets on Tuesday. A spokeswoman for Gov. Gary R. Herbert said Wednesday that in investigation was under way to see if state employees might have been involved.

The letter accompanying the list said that it was from “Concerned Citizens of the United States” and urged immediate deportation proceedings against the people listed as well as publication of their names by the news media. The letter said that more lists and names would be forthcoming and added: “We will be listening and watching.”
 

Pesqueeb

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Wow. Thats fvciking scary. Whats the Mexican equivalent of this?

The blessed virgin?
When are people going to start admitting the "immigration reform" is the new PC term for being racist? That sh*t is straight out of the klan playbook.
 
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KavuRider

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When is the Government going to get off there lasy Asses and do something about Immigration Reform? they are complaining about Arizona , now Utah , but have they done anything to address the Problem ??
:thumb:

Seriously, if they keep avoiding this issue, then we're going to see more stuff like this.

+ rep splat.
 

blue

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When is the Government going to get off there lasy Asses and do something about Immigration Reform? they are complaining about Arizona , now Utah , but have they done anything to address the Problem ??
When are you going to stop blindly supporting the multi-national corporations that love illegal immigration and help to maintain the status quo?

The underclass benefits the ultrarich. The ultrarich have promoted the underclass with "free trade" agreements and promulgation of xenophobia.

Sh!t like this and the mentality you display is nothing more than infighting amongst the what is no more than the proles, unless you happen to make more than a million a year...which I strongly doubt.
 

Silver

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When is the Government going to get off there lasy Asses and do something about Immigration Reform? they are complaining about Arizona , now Utah , but have they done anything to address the Problem ??
You support either a tax on the movement of capital or a complete abolishment of US immigration laws, I assume?
 

$tinkle

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Oh please. Because we all know being a legal citizen makes it impossible to commit crimes against children. :rolleyes:
good to see your ability to recognize a logical disconnect is still intact

now if you could just do that a few posts up...

hey, did anyone else notice the nyt's less than accurate headline? "‘Immigrant’ List Sets Off Fears"

and while it does go on to add 'illegal' in the story, i can't help but notice how this is being investigated (much like any other criminal endevour, save for illegal immigration):
“Any release of private information of this nature, especially the depth and breadth of it, is concerning,” Ms. Welling said. “The governor wants to be sure that a state agency wasn’t involved, and if it was, to make sure it doesn’t happen again, and to get to the bottom of who was responsible.”

Ms. Welling at the governor’s office said that the state’s Department of Technology Services was leading the investigation, looking into whether a digital trail might been left behind if state computers were used to prepare the list. She said that Workforce Services, in particular, was doing its own investigation, which she called “extensive.”
yep, the gov't springs into action here
 

Silver

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i can see a "nuns gone wild" series of pornos coming out of this.
If I remember correctly from my youth, that genre is more than covered.

I grew up a Calvinist, so seeing a nun lick pussy or suck down a dick wasn't shocking. They were going to hell anyways.
 

dante

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again, just *tax* the illegals as they come into this country. Most will pay someone up to $10k to smuggle them across the border, so why not have them pay the US gov't that money? Anyone and everyone who wants to come into this country pays at least $10k / person.

3,000,000 illegals enter each year, times $10,000 is....

$30,000,000,000! Per year! And suddenly these new American citizens will be working legal jobs, and paying income taxes. That was easy, maybe I should run for office or something.
 

Pesqueeb

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good to see your ability to recognize a logical disconnect is still intact

now if you could just do that a few posts up...

hey, did anyone else notice the nyt's less than accurate headline? "‘Immigrant’ List Sets Off Fears"

and while it does go on to add 'illegal' in the story, i can't help but notice how this is being investigated (much like any other criminal endevour, save for illegal immigration):yep, the gov't springs into action here
:rolleyes:
We have had this discussion before. I'm not saying their are no legitimate issues that need to be addressed because thats not true. The thing that gets me is that none of those issues are new, but the concern over them sure is. The right has yet to do/say anything to convince me that this is anything other than demagoguery and xenophobia caused by a poor economy and the ever increasing fear of the loss of white entitlement.
 

$tinkle

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what are 'white entitlements'? rule of law should be absolutely applicable to browns while selectively applicable to whites?

if we were getting invaded by the quebecois fur-trappers, i'm certain this would still be just as big an issue.

to see my point, recall how we dislike certain classes of white people, and it has nothing to do w/ their pallor
 

sanjuro

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When is the Government going to get off there lasy Asses and do something about Immigration Reform? they are complaining about Arizona , now Utah , but have they done anything to address the Problem ??
What should the federal gov't do?

Deport all illegals?
Give them amnesty?
Build the Great Wall of Mexico?
Stop the drug trade?

Not so simple, eh?
 

$tinkle

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What should the federal gov't do?

Deport all illegals?
Give them amnesty?
Build the Great Wall of Mexico?
Stop the drug trade?

Not so simple, eh?
deporting all is both intractable, disruptive to our economy on many fronts, and in a great number of cases unnecessarily inhumane. howsa bout just those when caught in a non-border related crime? seems sensible to me.

amnesty if there's a reason; amnesty by extension of geographical continuity is abusive to the very term

a wall does make sense in many parts. and when the water finds a way around the rock, build more.

doing nothing is just as foolish as saying we need to do everything on teh vdare wishlist
 

AngryMetalsmith

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They should join the priesthood and get sent off the Vatican. That's what Jesus would do.
Would that be self worship if the messiah became a priest or just false idolatry ?


what are 'white entitlements'? rule of law should be absolutely applicable to browns while selectively applicable to whites?

if we were getting invaded by the quebecois fur-trappers, i'm certain this would still be just as big an issue.

to see my point, recall how we dislike certain classes of white people, and it has nothing to do w/ their pallor
I've wondered about that scenario myself. It would more than likely be a non issue if a bunch of white people from Canada were immigrating here. Unless of course all Canadians are like MMike.

What should the federal gov't do?

Deport all illegals?
Give them amnesty?
Build the Great Wall of Mexico?
Stop the drug trade?

Not so simple, eh?
Hmmm, wonder where the Govment could find a source of cheap labour ?
 

Pesqueeb

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what are 'white entitlements'? rule of law should be absolutely applicable to browns while selectively applicable to whites?
Well, I was speaking more generally than that, but I suppose that one would be/is true. What I was referring to is a more general fear of losing power/control. The fear caused by the fact that "white" is rapidly becoming the minority, the fear caused by a half black guy being president, the fear of change in general. IE The rapid rise of Tea Party, the concern with the constitution when very little was expressed when the "patriot act" was made law, the sudden interest in austerity when there was none under Bush, the fear of "gun control" despite the fact that all gun control groups give Obama unfavorable marks because of his lack of action, the sudden interest in immigration control, etc, etc. It all reeks of hypocrisy, race baiting, and fear.
if we were getting invaded by the quebecois fur-trappers, i'm certain this would still be just as big an issue.
:rofl:

to see my point, recall how we dislike certain classes of white people, and it has nothing to do w/ their pallor
I'll give you that. Most of the people I hate are in fact very white.