aren't they subject to the mandatory military service?I don't think they typically send them into gaza or the west bank
aren't they subject to the mandatory military service?I don't think they typically send them into gaza or the west bank
I don't think it's mandatory, I think they choose to serve. They are also in there own special units.aren't they subject to the mandatory military service?
THIS IS NEWSPEAK!Bedouins have a history of not having problems with whom ever controls the land. How can you call a group of Muslims who can actually get along with Jews scum? The Bedouins are a prime example of how peaceful coexistence is possible.
That's exactly what they do, wich Jew would they risk sending in there otherwise? Never mind the question. The fact is that it's the bedouins primary role in the Israeli military.I don't think they typically send them into gaza or the west bank
I can't remember now, if it's mandatory or not.I don't think it's mandatory, I think they choose to serve. They are also in there own special units.
Looking at the amount of indescrimenate attacks against civilians, including the spreading of white phosphorus above civilian area city blocks to achive a mild Zyklon B effect, the lt.general's statement confirms claims done by the Palestinian side during these weeks.As stated before Israel has put modest goals forward for winning this war.
The main goal for this war is to win a cease-fire on its terms. This means Isreali's will keep upping the violence until Hamas gives in or until they, the Israeli's, can't withstand international pressure anymore.
There are two goals for this war. One official and one unofficial which is psychologically more important.
The official goal is to put an end to smuggling weapons via the Egypt-Gaza border. The cease-fire agreement will do this by providing more Eu, Amarican or Egytian border guards. This will end or reduce rocket attacs on Israel since the vital parts of these rockets are provided by Iran via these smuggling tunnels. A bonus would be the political weakening of Hamas because they would become impotent.
The unofficial reason is to break the spirit of the Palestinian people once again.
In 2003,
the IDF's chief of staff, Lieutenant General Moshe Ya'alon, said that the war being waged
in the occupied territories would "sear deep into the consciousness of
Palestinians that they are a defeated people"
[http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ans.lebanon/I]
Hamas does not recognise Israels right to exist. Israel will remind them it does exist, the hard way.
What I understand is that Qassam missiles are made from sheet metal Fertilizer melted sugar a cartridge and a nail.
They are made from the most common of components used in a wide variety of ways.
It can't possible be stopped by border guards.
was this you?I was at the SF protest today, it was pretty cool, there were a couple thousand people there at least
leavened bread? you are a true beast, with no time for love dr. mengelePfft, she was all talk, we actually threw the counter-protesting zionists into ovens
One of the benefits of having sourdough bread bakeries in the area
I find a pinch of zionist is a nice way to temper the sweetness of challah.One of the benefits of having sourdough bread bakeries in the area
His death was disclosed as Israeli forces said they had surrounded Gaza City, putting nearly 1m Palestinians under siege. Leaflets dropped by air warned that the 15-day-old offensive would be escalated.
http://www.yelah.net/news/20090111185721Sunday, January 11, 2009
Israel planned invasion in the summer
The invasion of Gaza was planned in June. Ultimately about control of the gas outside the Gaza Strip coast. It reveals a Canadian study published last week.
Already in June 2008 Israel planned an attack against Gaza, Haaretz reported December 27.
"Sources in the Defense said that Defense Minister Ehud Barak for over half a year ago ordered the Israeli forces (IDF) to prepare for the operation - while Israel was negotiating a truce with Hamas''
A study conducted by the Canadian Institute Center for Research on Globalization (CRG), published January 8, goes through the background to the invasion. An agreement with a British gas company, British Gas (BG), the extraction of the large gas deposits off the Gaza coast failed in December 2007. Legally the gas belongs to the Palestinians, and the compensation for the gas would be initially paid to the Palestinian Authority. 1999 was an agreement reached between British Gas and the then Palestinian Authority. Israel had since Ariel Shrons comming to power objected to this agreement, and claimed that all the gas belonged to them.
So, something happened - the newly elected Hamas government was isolated, the Palestinian Authority collapsed after bloody street fighting between Fatah and Hamas. The blockade ended with the gas under Israeli control. It looked as if the compensation would be in Israeli hands, with a proposed agreement with British Gas. But Meir Dagan, the head of the Mossad secret service, put an end to it. Income would be the hands of "terrorists", he claimed, according to a Knesset member quoted in the study. BG withdrew from negotiations and closed in January 2008 its office in Tel Aviv.
In June 2008, while planning the invasion was launched, resumed talks with British Gas. It seemed as if Israel was in a hurry to get the agreement ready before the invasion, says the study.
"The negotiations with British Gas was conducted by Ehud Olmert government, aware that a military invasion was on the drawing board. With all sertainty the Israeli government were thinking on a new 'political-territorial' arrangements after the invasion. "
The invasion aimed at transferring control of the Gaza Strip gas to Israel, in violation of international law, concludes report author.
Arash Hakimnia
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m50560&hd=&size=1&l=eThe US Military Sealift Command on Dec. 31st published a solicitation for bids from shipping companies to ship two boats, each containing 168 TEU's (twenty-foot equivalent container units) of ammunition, from Greece to Israel.
The description of the vessels required was brief:
"Required: Request US or foreign flag container vessel (coaster) to move approximately 168 TEU's [standard twenty-foot containers] in each of two consecutive voyages both containing ammunition."
Me peronsally I can't say beyond sertainty that it can't be anything else, but I'm not an expert even though I've used it my self. There's a possibility that it could be something, a granade, that I'm not familiar with. That's what WP looks like though.ok, i've been trying to find an unbiased source to tell me if indeed the idf is using white phosphorus. are they? the story at this link is suspect: http://www.imemc.org/article/58449, mostly due to this pic & its accompanied text:
Press TV Images of WP use in Gaza
can one tell by looking at the picture that it's WP?
are there varying degrees & uses of WP (lethal/non-lethal)?
is WP a violation of int'l law?
Information received by B'Tselem and several media reports indicate that the army is using phosphorous in the Gaza Strip. This weapon serves primarily to create screening, enabling forces to advance on the ground without being exposed. In addition, however, the phosphorous burns everything in comes in contact with, causing severe burns to humans. It is also capable of setting buildings and fields on fire.
International humanitarian law does not prohibit use of this weapon as such. However, the Third Protocol to the Convention on Prohibitions or Restrictions on the Use of Certain Conventional Weapons which may be Deemed to be Excessively Injurious or to Have Indiscriminate Effects, which relates to incendiary weapons, states that such weapons may only be used against military objects. When the military object is located within a civilian area, the use of phosphorous is absolutely prohibited.
Israel has not signed the Protocol, but the rule it states is based on two customary principles of international law, which are binding on Israel. The first is the prohibition on using weapons that cannot distinguish between combatants and civilians, and the second is the prohibition on using weapons which by their nature cause unnecessary suffering.
The use of such a weapon in a densely populated civilian area like the Gaza Strip breaches these two principles, and violates Israel’s obligation to take every possible precaution to limit harm to civilians.
B'Tselem demands that the army immediately cease using phosphorous in the Gaza Strip.
Israel has a policy that you cannot have a political party that calls for the destruction of Israel. They also broke up an extreme right wing Jewish party that believes that Israel should only exist once the messiah comesThe by $tinkle much vaunted democracy of Israel, is excluding two out of three Palestinian parties in the Israeli parliament after an extreme-right party accused them for being anti zionist (Palestinians make out 20% of Israels population).
So what epithet does Israel sort under now, limited democracy, or extended dictatorship?
That's pretty weak. Canada has the Bloc Quebecois in Parliament as a member of the opposition. They have a fair amount of seats and call for the separation of Quebec.Israel has a policy that you cannot have a political party that calls for the destruction of Israel. They also broke up an extreme right wing Jewish party that believes that Israel should only exist once the messiah comes
Calling for a Palestinian state in the west bank and Gaza is legal. If the Bloc Quebecois were calling for the destruction of Canada and the creation of a French Canadian state in all of Canada it would be entirely different. Though very much undemocratic, and I do disagree with it, it is much more understandable when you look at the facts and not try and make comparisons that don't really work.That's pretty weak. Canada has the Bloc Quebecois in Parliament as a member of the opposition. They have a fair amount of seats and call for the separation of Quebec.
Not allowing citizen's voices to be heard will completely disenfranchise them and only make things worse.
FYI - the removal of Quebec from Canada would indeed cause catastrophic effects. The economy would go away for one, as it accounts for about 35-40% of the economy with ontario another 40%. Canada has a good 30+ official political parties, including a couple looking for canada to be completely dissassembled.Calling for a Palestinian state in the west bank and Gaza is legal. If the Bloc Quebecois were calling for the destruction of Canada and the creation of a French Canadian state in all of Canada it would be entirely different. Though very much undemocratic, and I do disagree with it, it is much more understandable when you look at the facts and not try and make comparisons that don't really work.
FYI - the removal of Quebec from Canada would indeed cause catastrophic effects. The economy would go away for one, as it accounts for about 35-40% of the economy with ontario another 40%. Canada has a good 30+ official political parties, including a couple looking for canada to be completely dissassembled.
The comparison works fine. The Israelies like to overreact.
You should read that again.Again, calling for the destruction of 1 country and the creation of another is very different from turning one country into 2. The Israeli economy is also much less dependent on Palestine than the Canadians are on Quebec.
The creation of Quebec as a separate country would hurt Canada massively, and the Bloc Quebecois is a fairly successful partyAgain, calling for the destruction of 1 country and the creation of another is very different from turning one country into 2. The Israeli economy is also much less dependent on Palestine than the Canadians are on Quebec.
And it is one among 30+ parties, more than a couple of whom want to see canada cease to exist as it currently does. They are all allowed to have a voice, as they are the voice of the people (to whatever degree of support they have behind them).The creation of Quebec as a separate country would hurt Canada massively, and the Bloc Quebecois is a fairly successful party
I understand and acknowledge that, but Canada would still exist, under the parties being discussed Israel would not exist at all. VERY DIFFERENT. I don't see the similarity between calling for a part of a country to become another country and, one minority group of people in a country taking over and kicking out/ killing the majority (their words not mine) in order to create an entirely new countryThe creation of Quebec as a separate country would hurt Canada massively, and the Bloc Quebecois is a fairly successful party
He addressed that, there are parties that want what you are sayingI understand and acknowledge that, but Canada would still exist, under the parties being discussed Israel would not exist at all. VERY DIFFERENT. I don't see the similarity between calling for a part of a country to become another country and, one minority group of people in a country taking over and kicking out/ killing the majority (their words not mine) in order to create an entirely new country
Again if you would read my posts you would see that I agree with you that if Arab-Israelis (Arab-Israeli's not Palestinians these are Arabs who live in Israel proper who actually have the same rights as Israelis) want to destroy Israel and create a political party about it (so long as they no longer openly advocate genocide, if you are going to try and defend that then you truly are retarded) then so be it. All I am saying is you are comparing 2 totally different situations that don't work. All I am trying to do is point out the other side of the argument (and stating a disagree with it) to have an understanding of where both sides are coming from.And it is one among 30+ parties, more than a couple of whom want to see canada cease to exist as it currently does. They are all allowed to have a voice, as they are the voice of the people (to whatever degree of support they have behind them).
Disenfranchising the population is not the answer. If, hypothetically, 90% of Israel's population wanted to see Israel cease to exist, it would be atrocious for the government to try and do otherwise simply to keep themselves employed and in power.
[suicide] bombs don't discriminateI don't really mean to sidetrack this, but there is some pretty significant discrimination against Arabs in Israel.
Yeh, and in all democratic fairness, parties that want the destruction of Palestine are allowed, or is it even mandatory?Israel has a policy that you cannot have a political party that calls for the destruction of Israel. They also broke up an extreme right wing Jewish party that believes that Israel should only exist once the messiah comes
The Israelis are continously against the armament of Palestinians, and they've had total controll of their borders, therefore they have them selves dictated how and with what (lack of) weapons the Palestinians can fight with.[suicide] bombs don't discriminate