[webb]

Actually 1st degree murder is not limited to the usual "premeditated" as you are used to hearing in your legal education (most likely from watching Law & Order on TV). 1st degree also includes "felony murder" which by definition is a murder that takes place during the commision of a felony crime.

read what I wrote again genius. I didn't say first degree murder is limited to premeditated, I wrote that premeditated is first degree. I think I actually did sit through a full episode of law and order once, but really most of my legal education comes from my lawyer brother.

As for your assault definition....huh?
Nobody kicks another persons a$$ by mistake.

yes they do. but most often it happens with traffic accidents or involves other equiptment, in which it's both more easy to happen and more obvious it was a mistake. if a guy carrying a ladder turns around and swings it into an elderly woman, she could easily break some bones, which could end up in a lawsuit. though the guy did inflict bodily harm on her, he probably wouldn't face criminal charges because there obviously wasn't an intent to harm her.

If you were to assault a white male who is straight, I'm saying the penalty against you should be just as harsh as if you had assaulted a Jewish Lesbian Black Woman.

I actually am somewhat opposed to hate crime legislation on a personal level, but all I've contended is that there's a legal precident for evaluating motive as a means of determining sentencing and under our legal system as a whole that's how "right" and "wrong" are determined. you can't just say, "that's not right" and expect to change. the underlying idea behind the american legal system (though not always obvious) is that as a nation there are many moral backgrounds, and that the only morality you can defer to is the one that has been used by the courts before.

now personally, I think that is a much more interesting subject to debate: is a self-referential system appropriate for governing our lives? after 200 years of history is our system flexible enough, or are we becoming increasingly trapped in our own history while other countries are adapting to contemporary society more easily?

 

[ito]

Are you honestly saying that there is a difference in an assault case?
If you were the victim would you see a difference?

Yes. If I'm at a bar and get in a fight with some dude and get my ass kicked chances are it will become one of those stories I tell to friends.

If I was someone's wife and my husband was coming home and beating me up every friday night I'd have a different view on it(I'd also probably end up killing him or getting him sent to jail).

Obviously there are other circumstances, but you have to admit that there is a big difference between the impact the two different attacks

The level of dominance and closeness of the victim and attacker have a huge difference on the effect of the impact the attack has. Do you really not see this?

As for the white male verse the black jewish lesbian woman...can't really answer that. I understand what you are trying to say, but there I've seen what happens to a girl who has been beaten by her boyfriend(or to balance this, a guy who is beaten by his parents) and it has a much longer lasting impact than a friend who was fighting at a bar.

The Ito

 

[$tinkle]

i can see where this can go here:

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/04/the-dark-history-of-ei-the-latest-rape-email-frat/361056/

 

[kidwoo]

Frat boyz gonna frat.




God I hate damn true.

 

[HardtailHack]

Career women whinge they don't get paid as much as guys, male porn stars get paid SFA but never complain.

 

[JohnE]

Every...let me say that again...EVERY frat boy I have ever know was eventually revealed to be a major league doucher with more money then brains and an undeserved, misplaced sense of entitlement. If I can teach my daughter one decent thing, it will be douche detection skills.

 

[$tinkle]

Career women whinge they don't get paid as much as guys, male porn stars get paid SFA but never complain.

and it's pure bunk.
if i had a business & wanted to stay solvent, i'd hire the least expensive talent when everything else is equal. logic says the unemployment rate for males should be significantly higher than for women, but it ain't so. no one seems to want to consider that

 

[jimmydean]

logic says the unemployment rate for males should be significantly higher than for women, but it ain't so. no one seems to want to consider that

Not sure about that, but places like Intel and Nike offer more perm jobs to women then men because it keeps their "diversity" numbers in check. My first ex is the total package, only missing vet status (disabled minority female), she just doesn't want to work.

I also know the female engineers I worked with at Intel were paid on average more, but that was to keep them on the books I think.

 

[rockofullr]

Awesome quote

As another AU frat put in a recent Facebook post, EI is more like a "freelance club of douchebags pretending to be a fraternity.”

lol as opposed to the official douchebag clubs

 

[jimmydean]

Awesome quote



lol as opposed to the official douchebag clubs

It's all in the pretending, I guess.