Quince paste/jelly is amazing, especially with cheese.
its turdsday gfmt....
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hmmmm.....
Anywhere can do this. It’s a choice. Renewables are by far the cheapest power now. Our advantage/headstart/luck was that we built a lot of hydro damns in the 50/60/70s as well as coal but even then this was from a desire to both to avoid fossil fuels and their market. We are a longcat country though with a very rough sea between our islands. Our grid isn’t simple. Our largest hydropower facilities are located at the very bottom of the South Island generally furthest from where it’s needed most.
We have chosen to ditch the coal though, for the most part but we have coal generators connected to the grid, now simply unused for weeks and months at a time.
Jacobs crackers, a bit of brie and some quince paste on top, paired with some good white wine before dinner on a sunny warm evening is a thing that is very nice.
You could swap out the crackers for @SkaredShtles bomb looking bread too, that would totally work.
Damn now I really want that.
Damn now I really want that.
You stay away from my bread, you filthy, Godless COMMIE!
i do not think los angeles or new york could do it in their wettest dream...
i don't think we can just go all willy nilly damning shit up without a enviormental study on the impact of this or that or the other.....just a guess...
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Actually I’m a very clean, almost bordering on OCD, godless commie. Well a socialist anyway. Society and humans aren’t ready for communism yet.You stay away from my bread, you filthy, Godless COMMIE!
Maybe not but LA could do a tonne with solar and wind, and NY would also be a great place for offshore wind.
*dam*
You mean you did the exact same thing every developing country on the planet did in the 50s-70s including the US?
How does 'as well as coal' indicate a desire to both avoid fossil fuels and their market?
former presidents and the wealthy who preach such things unfortunately do not like their ocean views cluttered with such nonsense....
even john kerry would scoff at the notion...
i hear china is so green they just build coal plants in other countries...
They’re dumb. Off shore wind can easily be out of sight.
i know....i punch myself in the dick everytime i vote expecting a better result....
kick the can down the road....deal with it next time around....
Yup. The grid was shit back then though so power couldn’t transmit as far (so places far from hydro needed coal). The difference has been we chose to get rid of coal rather than just keeping it around. The US could have easily built more nuclear and/or a better grid than we could have ever afforded. For a while you did. You also have plenty of hydro options. As somebody said, a few unnatural lakes are a lot better than 3.5°C warming.
The west outsourced like literally 80%+ of our manufacturing there so it’s not too surprising that China now has the largest power needs on the planet, huge population aside. Their per capita CO2e is still way less than Americans even with that factor.
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......but we turned it over to mostly entirely private sector energy management so they frequently melted down.
Companies kinda like most of the 'green' energy corps popping up now to take advantage of subsidies.
Probably fine. This generation has more clever logos.
My larger point was mostly that 'building a bunch of dams' has little to do with a long term trajectory. Here you've got wonderful little companies like patagonia simultaneously pushing for the idea of a greener energy future, and backing huge campaigns to tear down hydro dams.
It’s sad that anyone would consider removing a hydro dam before removing a coal plant. Wild in fact.
i never had the waif like build to buy any of their shit....
even their xxl shit was like sqeezing into a mens large....when i was less husky....
contributing to global warming with personal methane emissions from this
Just had a look. So NY is in fact building loads of offshore wind. Great stuff. All approx. 1GW farms too, good work.
www.nyserda.ny.gov
New York's Offshore Wind Projects - NYSERDA
To help meet New York’s nation-leading renewable energy targets, NYSERDA issues competitive solicitations for offshore wind energy and contracts with offshore wind developers to purchase offshore renewable energy certificates (ORECs).
www.nyserda.ny.gov
It was going so well too, right up until the environmentalists got in the way of us actually protecting the environment. Shitbag founder of the Sierra club teamed up with Big Oil and went on an anti nuclear crusade, then the hippies started demanding all dams be removed, and forget building a new one to save the red dicked trouser trout or something and here we are. In our beautifully retarded State we’re decommissioning perfectly good nuke plants and firing up old natural gas plants to increase generating capacity.
Here we sit with too little power, too little water and too many Sierra Club environmentalists that for some reason we’re not allowed to either burn as a means of power generation nor water our lawns with their blood.
Living in a country that has a lot of offshore windfarms, I have to say they are not always out of sight. Currently there is a discussion if new windmills should be build in the South of Fyn. The neighboring cities (besides the one that would benefit from the tax income) are against it because this is a pretty tourist-y destination and a large percentage of their income is based on that. There are also concerns for the marine mammals and seabirds that are taken into consideration.
And if Changleen now says the science is not supporting this impact on animals, I can tell you that colleagues of mine work on exactly that and also can show it. Further, universities tend to bow to "big wind" here as well. Not too long ago a professor at another university that did research on the impact of windmills on bats and birds and published critically about this, got fired. Reason seems to be that the university values sweet sweet industry contract research more than scientific integrity, and big wind sure pours a lot of money into research that shows how great windfarms are.
Same shit as with the oil/tobacco/... industry. Whenever there is big money involved, thing go sideways.
To get this straight: I am not saying that offshore windfarms are not a possibility, but like with every major project, they have impacts on nature and society. Positive and negative.
That said, with the current fall storm, electricity is nearly free for me ATM.
we have 5 wind farms here in Livermore.
Woah! That's a whole lotta travel!!!
frame only is $5k.
1) https://theconversation.com/wind-farms-are-hardly-the-bird-slayers-theyre-made-out-to-be-heres-why-79567Living in a country that has a lot of offshore windfarms, I have to say they are not always out of sight. Currently there is a discussion if new windmills should be build in the South of Fyn. The neighboring cities (besides the one that would benefit from the tax income) are against it because this is a pretty tourist-y destination and a large percentage of their income is based on that. There are also concerns for the marine mammals and seabirds that are taken into consideration.
And if Changleen now says the science is not supporting this impact on animals, I can tell you that colleagues of mine work on exactly that and also can show it. Further, universities tend to bow to "big wind" here as well. Not too long ago a professor at another university that did research on the impact of windmills on bats and birds and published critically about this, got fired. Reason seems to be that the university values sweet sweet industry contract research more than scientific integrity, and big wind sure pours a lot of money into research that shows how great windfarms are.
Same shit as with the oil/tobacco/... industry. Whenever there is big money involved, thing go sideways.
To get this straight: I am not saying that offshore windfarms are not a possibility, but like with every major project, they have impacts on nature and society. Positive and negative.
That said, with the current fall storm, electricity is nearly free for me ATM.
2) Painting black stripes reduces kill by around 75%.
3) The overall harm of fossil fuels is literally destroying the viability of most life on the planet. The harm factor of wind farms compared to fossil fuels is laughably minute. How about we save ourselves from climate catastrophe them worry about if we can do even better? Seriously, the argument that we shouldn’t do this because a few bird might die vs. the harm of collapsing entire ecosystems and making society untenable is… just..
And yet apparently pedals great. I noted in the comments though people were mentioning the group test winner, a bike by Deviate, which apparently as good/better and considerably cheaper. I haven’t seen it myself.
@TreeSaw it seems Pinkbike is writing articles just for you at the moment.
Includes this gem: “In one of Levy's efficiency tests, the 170 mm-travel Santa Cruz Nomad (which has quite a lot of anti-squat) was faster than the 130 mm-travel Ibis Mojo (despite having slower tires), suggesting a long-travel bike with generous anti-squat can be as just as efficient as a shorter travel one.”
Includes this gem: “In one of Levy's efficiency tests, the 170 mm-travel Santa Cruz Nomad (which has quite a lot of anti-squat) was faster than the 130 mm-travel Ibis Mojo (despite having slower tires), suggesting a long-travel bike with generous anti-squat can be as just as efficient as a shorter travel one.”
Deviate Claymore apparently. Not a bad looking thing.
Don’t really want a bike named after a land mine. (hippie alert!!)
Agree. I don’t like the intense naming scheme for the same reason. Having said that my own bike is a ‘Decoy’ and has a picture of a duck on it.
Deviate is a Scottish company.
I'll let you both go learn what a claymore is in that context.
Didn’t know that. It is a sword then. I’m guessing the modern mine is named after the ancient sword. Hadn’t ever thought about that. I generally try not to think about modern weaponry I have to say.
Well, it’s how it will be interpreted more than if it’s just a regional nod.
Do you even do science, bro? Do you only read the single article that supports your opinion? That is fine, but like I said, my colleagues work on this and have a very differentiated view on it. Are you aware of the noise pollution the offshore wind farms generate for marine mammals? The polution that all the supply, repair and construction ships cause? The changes in wind patterns that large wind farms generate? The change to the sediments in the areas of the wind farms?
Your have to think more wholistic if you want to save the planet. If it is just about the climate, then the quickest solution would be to just ramp up the use of nuclear power massively. Which, we all know, causes other issues.
We should not make the same mistakes that we did when embracing previous technologies like nuclear and go all in on one. For transport, we need to get away from EVs as battery techology and solar panel production is controlled by China. Even if we start now to try to change it, we first can be relatively independent from their control of rare earth metals and lithium production in 15 years. So why not go to hydrogen-fueled transport as some European car companies have the developed technology already in the drawers? The ICE ban the EU is pushing is not helping with this.
Critizising Germany's dependency on russian gas, we are making the same mistakes over and over again. Everybody is just short term fixing things w/o telling people that a change of lifestyle is needed. Riding a regular bike instead of an ebike would be a start.
