So I have finally upgraded my sony MP3 player to an iPod. Is there a way to transfer all the music I have saved on crappy Sonicstage to iTunes? or will I have to spend another 8 hours doing it cd by cd
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lthumbsdown:....DiTunes help needed...
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What format are they in?
hmm..how would I find out?...D
well it says open mg audio...that sound right?..D
All of your files are in that format?
Ugh. That's a proprietary Sony format.
Does Sony's SonicStage software have an option to convert them to MP3?
I was afriad you were going to say that..let me check in the options and see if they have some type of format conversion...D
What extension do the files have? .mp3? .wma?
well the box pops up and offers this:
open mg audio (ATRAC3) convert to open mg audio (ATRAC3plus)
open mg audio (ATRAC3) convert to open mg audio (ATRAC3plus)
there's an option to convert them to wav...but that's about all I can find...D
I'm trying to find some info here but so far it's a long read...D
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172550&highlight=itunes
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172550&highlight=itunes
i hope you are not an audiophile, since going from lossy format (this mg audio) to another (mp3 or m4a) degrades the audio quality.
I fear, sir, that you are FOKKED!
well I do want my music to sound good. Maybe I should just do it the long way...D
damn..not even a glimmer of hopeI fear, sir, that you are FOKKED!
...well see you guys in about 4-6 hrs unless someone has a miracle solution...D
Get someone else to do it for you? 
Yeah...you could convert the Sony proprietary format to .wav then do another conversion from .wav to iTunes...
But at that point it would be about the same amount of time (and a bunch of lost quality) as just re-burning you CD's in the 160-192 kbps range.
I burned all my cd's at 160 into iTunes.....should gone 192. There's an audible difference...a bit more space is eaten, but, to me, it would've been worth it...
hmm.. I looked in itunes but the highest it offers is 160...D
nevermind.. I found out how to change it...D
I'm guessing it takes longer to burn right? I may stick with 160....D
I would recommend NOT burning them to AAC with iTunes. Burn them to MP3. That way any player will be able to play them.
Actually - check with narlus on details of ripping. He's the man when it comes to all things audio....
Actually - check with narlus on details of ripping. He's the man when it comes to all things audio....
I should be able to do this in the preferences tab right?...D
I looked in iTunes and it doesn't appear to *allow* you to change what format you rip in...
Also - it appears to me that iTunes converted my mp3 files into its own format when I "imported" the tunes. I now have two copies of my music on my computer... one in my original burn directory and another in the iTunes music directory.
God iTunes is retarded.
God iTunes is retarded.
I have to say so far it's not very user friendly to me...D
D, if you are starting from scratch (ie, re-ripping and compressing your songs from cds into a compressed file format), i would recommend that you do it using ExactAudioCopy (www.exactaudiocopy.de) as a ripper, and using LAME as the internal compressor. i use Variable Bit Rate, which makes sense as the algorithm bumps up the bit rate on musically complex passages, and lowers it for simpler ones. the end result is that you have a higher fidelity mp3 file for about the same size, as compared to a Constant Bit Rate file.
hydrogenaudio is a good forum for this stuff, but can get very esoteric.
hydrogenaudio is a good forum for this stuff, but can get very esoteric.
I have grown to like that. I drop all of my music onto an external drive and then drop into iTunes for a "backup".God iTunes is retarded.
Narlus I wish i knew what you were talking about...I'm so elctronically ignorant it's pathetic...all I know is it's been over an hour and I still can't get itunes to copy my music in MP3 format and then move it into my nano...I'm trying to be patient but at least the sony software was so easy to use...I didin't even need a manual and I was up and running in no time.....D
Cliff's Notes:
Basically you take your CD's and rip them with "ExactAudioCopy" using the "Variable Bit Rate" setting (Higher quality, less space).
Then! you take the already ripped songs (which are in the MP3 format) and using iTunes' [File]-[Add Folder to Library] option, transfer (read: copy) the folder where the original MP3's are.
iTunes will take all the MP3's that you initially ripped with ExactAudioCopy and copy them into the iTunes proprietary format (AAC---file extension: m4a)
So now you will have an iTunes copy and an MP3 copy of the same song. Sort of a backasswards backup...but that's what I initially had to do. I had all my CD's and dl'd songs through Windows Media Player (.wma) and then just selected the folder and transferred it to iTunes.
That help any?
Don't do that, it will take twice as long (as far as encoding goes), take up twice the space on his computer, and lowers the quality for his nano.
iPods work with mp3s too, so all he has to do is rip his CDs to 160 VBR mp3s.
I'm a moron
see I'm a bit confused. I changed my preferneces to DL songs using the MP3 format but then when I right click on a song one of the options is "convert this song to an MP3 file"...WTF??
So I do that even though theoretically it should have orginally been DL'ed in the MP3 format and I end up with 2 copies of the same song...argh!!....my cheap little sony mp3 player is looking better by the minute
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oh....apparently I'm the moron...I didn't know that!
That's nice.... I'd prefer to have my backup done when I run my backup utility and backup all my data.
iTunes is still retarded.
Dammit - it converted all mine too. I suppose this is another fabulous iTunes "feature"?
is there some other program I can get free that is easier to use than iTunes??...I'm on the verge of kicking my monitor in
Another bull**** default setting you have to change.Dammit - it converted all mine too. I suppose this is another fabulous iTunes "feature"?
damn...3 hrs and not a single song on my nano yet...maybe it's me...D
EDIT: it says to drag songs over manually but I get an error message saying the file isn't in the right format.
EDIT: it says to drag songs over manually but I get an error message saying the file isn't in the right format.
Should have bought one of these Barracuda's, easier to use. I was up and running about 2 hours from receiving it to processing an average of 300-400 emails an hour with practically flawless accuracy out of the box. Awesome and no marketing bull****
You can try WINAMP. It works for me... it reads both my ipod and my Creative Zen. Not sure on what it can do for you on transferring the music from the sony player though.is there some other program I can get free that is easier to use than iTunes??...I'm on the verge of kicking my monitor in
Personally I would re-rip my CD's in as high a rate as you can (I second the rec to ask Narlus about which format and all), and then transfer to your ipod. Then store the newly ripped files on your server or PC or wherever.
I have more music than will fit on my players (4 gigers) so it's all on a server here at home. I just copy over what i want when I want to through Winamp. It works basically the same as itunes in that it's just an interface, but I think is more user friendly and gives you more layout and visual options. The basic version is free.
winamp, there have a been a few discussions about it. I hate iTunes myself, refuse to use it.is there some other program I can get free that is easier to use than iTunes??...I'm on the verge of kicking my monitor in
gg