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Judas: Friend or Foe?

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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Traitor or ally: gospel sheds new light on Judas

Lost for almost 1,700 years, a manuscript entitled "Gospel of Judas" is putting a new spin on the case of the biblical bad guy, maintaining that Jesus actually asked disciple Judas to betray him.

The third- or fourth-century ancient Coptic manuscript -- authenticated, translated and displayed Thursday at National Geographic headquarters here -- paints a different picture of Judas and Jesus.

The papyrus manuscript known as a codex maintains, as the bible does not, that Jesus requested that Judas "betray" him by handing him to authorities, something it says pained Judas greatly.

"The codex has been authenticated as a genuine work of ancient Christian apocryphal literature on five fronts: radiocarbon dating, ink analysis, multispectral imaging, contextual evidence and paleographic evidence," said Terry Garcia, executive vice president for Mission Programs for the National Geographic Society.

"This dramatic discovery of an ancient non-biblical text -- considered by some to be the most significant in the past 60 years -- enhances our knowledge of the history and theological viewpoints of the early Christian period, and is worthy of study by historians, scholars and theologians," Garcia said.

"This process will take time and ongoing dialogue which has just begun."

The leather-bound papyrus text believed to have been copied down around 300 AD was located in the 1970s in the desert near El Minya, Egypt. It then moved among antiquities traders from Egypt to Europe and the United States.

It was purchased by Zurich-based antiquities dealer Frieda Nussberger-Tchacos in 2000, and now was to be returned to Egypt and housed at Cairo's Coptic Museum.
 

LordOpie

MOTHER HEN
Oct 17, 2002
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Judas died on the cross so Jesus could emerge three days later.

They're all a bunch of lying, self-serving jews.
 

Tenchiro

Attention K Mart Shoppers
Jul 19, 2002
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Technically if God sent his son to earth to die for our sins, then Judas on only fulfilling his role in that. Neither friend or foe.
 

Westy

the teste
Nov 22, 2002
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I'm not one to say this forum is full of a bunch of anti-religeon nazis but effin a lets drop the topic for a while.
 

Changleen

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Jan 9, 2004
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It's funny how these deluded idiots are happy to use science to prove their document is old, but run away the moment people want to apply it properly to their entire argument. Fvckin' tossers.

I am an anti-religious nazi and I'm proud of it. I will continue to laugh at people who don't have the sack to take a clear look at reality.
 

N8 v2.0

Not the sharpest tool in the shed
Oct 18, 2002
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The Cleft of Venus
Changleen said:
It's funny how these deluded idiots are happy to use science to prove their document is old, but run away the moment people want to apply it properly to their entire argument. Fvckin' tossers.

I am an anti-religious nazi and I'm proud of it. I will continue to laugh at people who don't have the sack to take a clear look at reality.

..you're really a guilt ridden southern baptist huh?

Admit it.