Juicy Carbons vs Saints

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  1. SamB

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    Hey guys,

    At the moment I'm running some 06 Juicy Carbons on my Balfa. I don't have any real complaints about them, they don't seem to be overly powerful though (and I'm not huge) but they work well enough.

    I've just been offered a deal on a swap for some pretty much brand new Shimano Saints, plus an extra $125nzd/about $100us my way. I'm in need of a bit of cash so I'm pretty tempted to go for it, but I'd thought I'd get a few other opinions first.

    I've got a Deore brake on my DJ bike, I'm pretty happy with it but due to a broken wrist I haven't had much of a chance to test it out. I like the levers on my Juicy's a bit more though.

    How do Saints compare to the Juicy's? I'm guessing they have the edge on power and reliability? (from what I've gathered reading around about them)

    Just doing a rough add up of the weights of the calliper/lever/brake hose I've come up with a weight of aout 360g/end for the Saints, which would put them at about 80g heavier than a Juicy Carbon. Can anyone confirm these weights?

    Any help would be much appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Sam.
     

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  2. Lollapalooza

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    You could just pick up some Code calipers. You could probably mate up the new Formulas with Juicy levers too.
     
  3. SamB

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    Would like to do that but can't really afford to. If I swap for the Saints I'll have some extra money in my hand, hence why I'm asking for opinions on them. What I want to know is whether Saints are a better brake and if it's a good deal. Thanks.
     
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    I have 3 sets of Juicy Carbons and I love them. I've ridden a couple of my friends bikes that have Shimano's. I think they run the XT's but they could be the Saints. Whenever I've ridden their bikes I always found that they locked up a little too easy. I had a hard time learning to control them. They seemed to be pretty much on/off. Eventually I got it down a bit, but I am far more comfortable with my Juicy Carbons.

    -Kevin
     
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    hey why not swap the brakes out, get the money, try the brakes see how you like them. if not sell them and buy new ones when you have the money. live life, take a chance.

    and plus your wrist is broke anyway.
     
  6. SamB

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    Yea thats what I'm thinking. He claims the Saints are only two rides old, whereas my Juicy's have had a bit of a hard life. Brand new sets of Juicy Carbons go pretty cheap on the net anyway I guess.
     
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    Sorry, I read it incorrectly. I thought you had to pay $125 (and you really wanted new brakes without spending a ton of money). Definitely go for it. Saints are great. They're powerful with good modulation and are easy to bleed.
     
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    juicy carbons got an upgrade this year as well making yours worth a bit less, i'd do the switch and see what you think. Part of the fun is trying new parts when you can. You'll gain maybe 20g each side at most.
     
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    Thanks for all the comments. I'm pretty convinced to go for it now, heard nothing but good things about Saints so far.
     
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    Only 20g? I always thought they were heavier than that. If they are then I don't really have any reasons not to swap!
     
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    who cares about 20grams? seriously its a downhill bike.
     
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    yea, its really not worth worrying about and they are really only weigh a hair more. They're killer brakes. They're reliable, are easy to maintain, and are strong brakes.
     
  13. SamB

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    Exactly, I always thought they were at least 100g heavier an end so my bike would've gained half a pound. Even then I would still be pretty much convinced.
     
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    Na they're about 300g

    120g caliper, 125g lever, ~50g hose /fittings /fluid.
    They're not heavy.
     
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    Oh cool, thanks for that. I put in the weight for two brake hoses instead of one haha

    "Lever = 122g
    Calliper (incl. Pads) = 119g
    Brake Hoses = 120g
    Total = 361g"
     
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    had my saints for a year now, and they are amazing, so simple to bleed, always work, and you can get parts anywear... When i was out in the alps they were the only brakes that could take a whole season...lol
     
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    sounds like a great deal to me

    definitely go the swap for the saints

    if the stock saints arent enough power upgrade to some goodridge lines and pads and that should satisfy
     
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    go for the saints.
    got them as stock on my '08 glory dh and was a bit skeptical. but they work really good, and as mentioned above, are hassle free, easy to bleed and use mineral oil.