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Just checking the news on Pinkbike and saw this .... 06 Sram X0 preview......

DHS

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thats sweet, i've been wanting that sram blackbox mini rear der. i'll be getting some of the new xo triggers and such.
 
Westy

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Acadian said:
they did - that is one extra refinement to the new cassettes..might just have to add that to the article...totally forgot.

thanks.
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Any idea on the cassette weight and price, sorry if it was in the article. Had to scan it for work purposes.
 
UiUiUiUi

UiUiUiUi

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Acadian said:
Radek folling around with the server while drinkin' too much Yeagermiester :D
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please :D

Jägermeister or Jaegermeister

thanks!

spelling nazi off!


damn i want some XO stuff but the price is just out there. :(
i will have to settle for some X9 or X7
 
ska todd

ska todd

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I have been privvy to the X.0 shifters for a while but have had to remain tight lipped. When they showed them to Sam Hill, dw, Travis, & I several months back we all giggled like little kids. It is a REALLY, REALLY, REALLY cool item. Definately the top chi-chi mountain bike item I've seen in the past year or two. The look, feel, everything is exceptional. Total jewelery!

-ska todd
 
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ito

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Acadian said:
those were not given to me but I did ask.

Edit: I updated the article. The gear ratio on the 11-34T cassette has been revised - the last jump was pretty big (i.e. 20T to 34T) but now is 30T to 34T.
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They jumped from a 20 to a 34t?!?! That has got to be absolutely horrible for pedaling with. And who uses a 34t anyway? Are they going to have something with a smaller, tighter cogset? More like a larger road cassette? nm...answered my own question. Still can't believe they had a 20-34t jump, that's something I would expect on a comfort bike.

20-34....yikes.

The Ito
 
DßR

DßR

They saw my bloomers
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man, that sounds hot as hell. I can't wait to see this stuff... hope I can afford it.
 
UiUiUiUi

UiUiUiUi

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Acadian said:
sorry...I just don't drink the stuff much, so never really paid attention at how it's spelled :(
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no need to be sorry for anything it just hurt my eyes so much ;)

it amazes me that i don't get yelled at for the stupid spelling and grammar mistakes i make in english
 
ska todd

ska todd

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They jumped from a 20 to a 34t?!?! That has got to be absolutely horrible for pedaling with. And who uses a 34t anyway? Are they going to have something with a smaller, tighter cogset? More like a larger road cassette? nm...answered my own question. Still can't believe they had a 20-34t jump, that's something I would expect on a comfort bike.
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Think it was a 28T to 34T jump.

-ska todd
 
Monkeybidnezz

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Very nice...a bit of a sticker shock tho...yikes talk about spendy replacement, defntly not a good call for peeps that break a lot of components.
 
Jm_

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The X.0 triggers will be the first trigger shifters on the market to feature zero loss on the pull lever. This means no more slop in the system; always giving you clear precise shifts. You know that few millimeters of play you have before the shifting engages? Well this is a thing of the past with the new X.0 trigger shifters – and trust me, I speak from experience. After two days of hard riding
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Two days of hard riding? I get slop after months upon months of riding, if at all of course. It's not something that you see in a few minutes worth of riding. It's not that I'm trying to discount your testing Luc, but SRAM's big folly is long term durability/reliabilty. It's the hardest thing to test, but the most important to me and others that might consider sram stuff in the future, as it's the one area where they have never been equal with shimano IMO.

Current X9 shifter pods are around 290g, another area they need to improve in to be more equal to shimano.

Anyhow, the no-slop feature sounds nice, especially comming from SRAM, whom has had lots of problems with slop in their gripshift designs.

I just finished riding a PG990....well it simply didn't hold up. I don't advise that anyone who is looking for a decent cassette go with these, the current ones are heavier than the equivalent shimano, and they just don't last(no chain stretch but the cassette wore out and started skipping, ultra-wierd with no chainstretch). Hopefully the new ones will be more "equal".

The derailer "weight savings" don't sound very significant, if the medium cage is 195g, and the old standard cage is 204g, that doesn't really sound like any weight was saved, only that they made the cages shorter.

IMO, Shimano has had lighter, more reliable components for years that fulfill the SRAM claims. Time is the ultimate test, and hopefully they can do a turn around and come out with some reliable triggers. That would be the biggest improvement they could make IMO, then build on that and put together a decent drivetrain. A good cassette that is XT-light (260g, much lighter than current PG990) put together with the triggers and rear derailers would really make good competition. They'll get tons of people jumping on board due to "dual control".


BTW, I think it's time for some new stickers for that Fox fork.
 
DßR

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Jm_ said:
I just finished riding a PG990....well it simply didn't hold up. I don't advise that anyone who is looking for a decent cassette go with these, the current ones are heavier than the equivalent shimano, and they just don't last(no chain stretch but the cassette wore out and started skipping, ultra-wierd with no chainstretch). Hopefully the new ones will be more "equal".
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that's always been my experience w/ SRAM cassettes. Never lasted me more than a couple of months.
 
joelsman

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my sram cassette on my dh bike has been fine but I don't pedal as much on it. i do think sram stuff doesn't last as long but it works better and is designed better, except for durabullity.
 
Acadian

Acadian

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okay, I don't even know why I'm making the effort to reply to you since you always have beefs with anything I say but here goes..

Jm_ said:
Two days of hard riding? I get slop after months upon months of riding, if at all of course. It's not something that you see in a few minutes worth of riding. It's not that I'm trying to discount your testing Luc, but SRAM's big folly is long term durability/reliabilty. It's the hardest thing to test, but the most important to me and others that might consider sram stuff in the future, as it's the one area where they have never been equal with shimano IMO.
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Have you noticed how my comment was in the Trigger Shifter section? I wasn't talking about the entire drivetrain, but more specifically about how responsive the triggers were during the time I rode them. Are you telling me that you're SRAM trigger shifters developed or are developing slop? I have an old beat up pod on my DH bike that's about to get mounted its 3rd bike – and honestly there isn't any slop in the pull lever. Same for the ones on my tail bike.

Jm_ said:
Current X9 shifter pods are around 290g, another area they need to improve in to be more equal to shimano.
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oh sorry...I forgot to bring my digital scale with me! Is that with or without the shifting cable? I just went with the weight they gave me during the interview.

Jm_ said:
I just finished riding a PG990....well it simply didn't hold up. I don't advise that anyone who is looking for a decent cassette go with these, the current ones are heavier than the equivalent shimano, and they just don't last(no chain stretch but the cassette wore out and started skipping, ultra-wierd with no chainstretch). Hopefully the new ones will be more "equal".
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I fully agree with you here. The current PG-990 isn't on par with Shimano offerings. But keep in mind that the PG-990 uses a carrier - not a spider, which might have to do with the less then desire performance/durability. The new cassette has a full spider. The new cassette will be heavier than the current one, but shifts much better – so yes, would be nice if they could bring the weight down.
 
Jm_

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Acadian said:
Have you noticed how my comment was in the Trigger Shifter section? .
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Yes, and I stated that I hadn't noticed bad slop in trigger shifters as opposed to twist style, and I was inferring that something in the twist style that did the same thing would be a better use of technology, BUT overall it's a good thing for either style, I just wish it could be incorperated into a twisty.

The weights was something I felt like pointing out. It used to be (back in the late 90s) that SRAM stuff was a good bit lighter than the equivalent shimano. This phenomina has done a 180° though and now the opposite is true. Shimano derailers are lighter (and cheaper), cassettes, shifters...

It's not a bad review, it's good to know about more features and new technology. The thing about long term reliability though is that's where most of us feel there is a disparity between sram and shimano, and it's also the hardest thing to test. More than anything, we want to know if it will last before putting down $200+ on a derailer or shifter.

The only thing that really bugs me is that someone felt so insecure that they had to blur out the fox fork and shimano components in the picture :blah:
 
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