Just found out how much my friends makes - holy ish!

Toshi · Jul 15, 2006

but you have to stare at nasty teeth all day long... :dead:

Mr. Furious · Jul 15, 2006

Same thing here in Canada. With basic dental coverage pretty common you end up with a large population that goes to the dentist and seldom sees the bill... up the fee guide here and there, bill the insurance companies, no one complains...

However the downside of it is you can end up with a bad back from hunched over and scaling teeth all day... you don't see many hygienists over 40 up here....

Ciaran · Jul 15, 2006

While working at Kaiser I came across a pay stub for one of the therapists... ho-lee sheet! Education pays, boys and girls.

sanjuro · Jul 15, 2006

Its all relative. She makes $45 an hour and in ten years she will make $45 an hour.

The dentist she works for now probably did not own his own office 10 years ago. He gets a cut of her work and the hundreds per hour he generates himself.

Maybe we should be talking about the dentist who owns a Mercedes as well his private plane (which is the case with my dentist).

Toshi · Jul 15, 2006

yeah, dentistry seems like it has a good payoff in terms of salary vs. schooling involved (as it's about half the time in school/residency as medicine)... but, like i said, the mouth and teeth are slimy and gross even in the healthiest of specimens

sanjuro · Jul 15, 2006

Toshi said:
yeah, dentistry seems like it has a good payoff in terms of salary vs. schooling involved (as it's about half the time in school/residency as medicine)... but, like i said, the mouth and teeth are slimy and gross even in the healthiest of specimens

what happens if you go into protology?

Toshi · Jul 15, 2006

sanjuro said:
what happens if you go into protology?

proctology is not a real specialty :wave:

. urology and obstetrics/gynecology are both pretty "slimy" specialties, in terms of mucous membranes and discharge and all that... meh. on the other hand, the truly nasty stuff is encountered only when you are ensconced in a sterile gown, glove, cap, booties, and face mask.

maxyedor · Jul 15, 2006

Thats pretty good money, but you really don't want to know how much I make per year off of real-estate investments. Oh and did I mention rhet require absolutly no work on my part? A good paying job is definitley nice to have.

seventyohfive · Jul 15, 2006

h22ekhatch said:
Of course, I could recruit her to be my sugarmomma and problem solved?

Bingo.

sanjuro · Jul 15, 2006

h22ekhatch said:
Blah, I'm just jealous mostly. I have 2 B.S. degrees and 5 years industry experience, but since it is in IT I will likely never make what she does (she is 22 for what its worth).

Of course, I could recruit her to be my sugarmomma and problem solved?

You should be able to make $50 a hour if you stay with computers, particularily if you go into management. You will also get commenserate benefits as well.

But there is something to be said for quality of your work. With your educational background, you could choose a very interersting position. Toshi is right, she will be looking inside people's mouths for a long time.

buildyourown · Jul 15, 2006

It aint about the money.

Did you consider the cost of living in LA? She could make $50/hour and still not afford a POS house.

Don't forget that a 2 day/week contractor job wouldn't have any benefits. When I do side jobs I charge well over $100 and hour an it still isn't worth my time.

partsbara · Jul 15, 2006

don t we have some high rolling web designers here who make $300 p/h ??

manimal · Jul 15, 2006

for some perspective.....i have more experience and schooling than your hygienist friend, i know more about criminal law than the average lawyer (could probably pass the bar exam) and a lot of my "customers" would rather kill me than say "hello". all that for a killer salary of $40k-ish per year. :think:

my brother, on the other hand, is an opthamologist (eye surgeon) and is only making $250k right now but next year, when he's done paying into the practice, he'll be baking about $35k - $40k per MONTH. :eek:

mastercycleman · Jul 15, 2006

h22ekhatch said:
Of course, I could recruit Sanjuro to be my sugarmomma and problem solved?

yah i guess if your into that stuff

jdcamb · Jul 15, 2006

manimal said:
for some perspective.....i have more experience and schooling than your hygienist friend, i know more about criminal law than the average lawyer (could probably pass the bar exam) and a lot of my "customers" would rather kill me than say "hello". all that for a killer salary of $40k-ish per year.

my brother, on the other hand, is an opthamologist (eye surgeon) and is only making $250k right now but next year, when he's done paying into the practice, he'll be baking about $35k - $40k per MONTH.

I believe you will be rewarded for you're noble effort with happiness. The worth of happiness isn't measurable by any $$ amount. Your children will learn by your example. Not by privlege.

manimal · Jul 16, 2006

jdcamb said:
I believe you will be rewarded for you're noble effort with happiness. The worth of happiness isn't measurable by any $$ amount. Your children will learn by your example. Not by privlege.

yeah, i totally agree. i wouldn't trade my job for anything....but sometimes it is frustrating to see people making rediculous amounts of cash for putting up with a lot less than i do. oh well, at least i have a good life expectancy after retirement

< 5 years

SkaredShtles · Jul 17, 2006

h22ekhatch said:
Yea the cost of living is what scares me from moving down there. I mean, I am just scraping by living in Portland and from what I have seen the jobs in my field really don't pay much more in socal

Jeezus. What kind of crap IT job did you have? IT offers a pretty damn nice standard of living around here.......... :think:

MTB_Rob_NC · Jul 17, 2006

Per day.... bla bla bla... Being paid as an independent contractor (which may or may not be appropriate) may seem nice, but lets not forget about a few things. As apposed to working for a company, out of that $350 per day
Taxes , just your FICA is going to be any where from ~17-25%. Lets not forget about Social Security (6.2%), Then is there city/county/state income tax in CA? How about unemployment tax? Lets not forget about insurance you aren't getting.

Dont forget the IRS likes its money upfront, so as an independent contractor get ready to front some cash in estimated tax payments.

Cost of living?

Doesnt sound like such a sweet gig to me.

BillT · Jul 17, 2006

Ditto what Rob said...$350/day isn't that much once you factor in taxes and paying for what would normally be considered benefits (medical coverage, retirement, etc) as a full-time employee at most companies.

Ian F · Jul 17, 2006

BillT said:
Ditto what Rob said...

+2.
The tax laws for those types of employee contracts is quite a bit different...

sanjuro · Jul 17, 2006

manimal said:
for some perspective.....i have more experience and schooling than your hygienist friend, i know more about criminal law than the average lawyer (could probably pass the bar exam) and a lot of my "customers" would rather kill me than say "hello". all that for a killer salary of $40k-ish per year.

my brother, on the other hand, is an opthamologist (eye surgeon) and is only making $250k right now but next year, when he's done paying into the practice, he'll be baking about $35k - $40k per MONTH.

Yeah, but who gets to ride his bike on the job and fire guns?

Ciaran · Jul 17, 2006

manimal said:
yeah, i totally agree. i wouldn't trade my job for anything....but sometimes it is frustrating to see people making rediculous amounts of cash for putting up with a lot less than i do. oh well, at least i have a good life expectancy after retirement < 5 years

I think that the job of a law enforcement officer, much like that of a teacher, is highly undervalued.

P.S. That pay stub I saw was for 19,000 dollars. And that was for a two week period of listening to peoples problems and perscribing them medication to control their depression. :eek:

jimmydean · Jul 17, 2006

I wish I could make more dough, but I learned a few years ago that it doesn't matter as long as I'm happy and the bills are paid. I have made nearly twice what I make now, but I hated it and was not a nice person to be around.

As for cleaning others teeth, I don't think you could pay me enough to do that.

BAH · Jul 17, 2006

My wife is a hygienist. The money is definitely good. Having 3 day weekends every weekend is nice too. As far as being in peoples mouths- it's just like any other job, after a while it's all the same.
The advantages are that you can work anywhere you like andif you are good you can name your pay most of the time. The Dr who hired my wife, hired her then asked how much she wanted. nice.
Benefits are good, the only disadvantage is that it can be hard work. Bent over and scraping in someones mouth who hasnt ever brushed thier teeth is tough work. If hygienists don't take good care of themselves, theres a good chance they will get carpal tunnel syndrome. Sara has biweekly chiropractic adjustments and massage to make sure she stays healthy. We live waaay beneath our means though and with my photography going like it is, she won't be working long, unless she wants to pick up some extra cash now and then

Don't think the school is easy though, it's like a boot camp. Sara cried pretty much constantly for the last 2 years of her schooling. It's also not so easy to get in. Sara was 1 of 20 accepted out of 300 applicants to apply to the school in Tacoma.

ALEXIS_DH · Jul 17, 2006

Ciaran said:
I think that the job of a law enforcement officer, much like that of a teacher, is highly undervalued.

P.S. That pay stub I saw was for 19,000 dollars. And that was for a two week period of listening to peoples problems and perscribing them medication to control their depression.

besides the education..

i always thought a private psychiatry practice was among the coolest medical jobs.

is mostly clean, most of the hardcore ones usually dont go to private practices for long, and the patients seem pretty average and the illnesses tend to be common .
plus the risk of malpractice isnt quite high (you can always claim they were too crazy to begin with

)

rooftest · Jul 18, 2006

After about $95,000 a year, the FICA tax goes away. (known as "self-employment tax" to 1099-ers.)

Although, unfortunately, $350 a day won't get you past that.

Just found out how much my friends makes - holy ish!

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