I think their use to be. I haven't bought the stuff recently, maybe not.
Kabooooooooooooom!!!!
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ya I think my eye would of burn/hurt a lot more if there was ammonia in there?ssaddict said:
Yeah, you probably wouldn't be able to see. I just read the second page, guess i'm a little slow.
Anyhow, like a few others have kind of recommended. I never usually use pressures higher than 50 to seat anything tubeless. Especially if your rims are a little beat up. I just use my hands and work the tire onto the bead. It's much safer that way.
Anyhow, like a few others have kind of recommended. I never usually use pressures higher than 50 to seat anything tubeless. Especially if your rims are a little beat up. I just use my hands and work the tire onto the bead. It's much safer that way.
I also told him if he spanks his monkey that much too he'd can go blindssaddict said:
I don't think the Stans has ammonia in it or at least not that much, the home made stuff would have been desasterous.
thats not reall ytrue is it?..It would explain my sudden cataracts....Brian HCM#1 said:I also told him if he spanks his monkey that much too he'd can go blind
I just looked at a bottle of Stans and it doesn't list the ingredients, however it does state not to inhale, touch and to wear safety googles when using. So my assumption is it does contain some ammonia.
That and all the flashbacks you're havingbibs said:thats not reall ytrue is it?..It would explain my sudden cataracts....
Hey watch out dude. there is some people who care about you... somewhere on earth 
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As for wearing google, we all should wear some when wrenching or doing homework
take care!
ink: As for wearing google, we all should wear some when wrenching or doing homework
take care!
I've had to go over 80-90psi many times, even with windex/bikewash sprayed on the bead. It depends on the tire/rim combo more than anything.syadasti said:
glad that you're alright. cause all i can say is Bwahahahaha.....
Luc,
This wouldnt have happened if you'd just stick to "e-maintenance". Although with e-maintenance, you can still damage your eyes from the radiation that emits from the monitor.... oh well, either way i guess your damned.....
This wouldnt have happened if you'd just stick to "e-maintenance". Although with e-maintenance, you can still damage your eyes from the radiation that emits from the monitor.... oh well, either way i guess your damned.....
I was using virtual air....I just had the volume of my speakers too high, which cause my ear ache...fingers are hurting from typing and the eye I just make that up to be "e-cool"
Stans doesn't have ammonia. I know that for sure b/c ammonia has a pungent, stingy smell (btw, I'm a chemist and have worked with that stuff before). Your eyes will sting if you have a small amount of ammonia! The more ammonia, you'll end up in the ER room. hehBrian HCM#1 said:
No, the stuff that shot in your eye was from viewing the 2005 Rock Shox catalog, use a tissue next timeAcadian said:
Well there you have it, thank youcali4niabiker said:Stans doesn't have ammonia. I know that for sure b/c ammonia has a pungent, stingy smell (btw, I'm a chemist and have worked with that stuff before). Your eyes will sting if you have a small amount of ammonia! The more ammonia, you'll end up in the ER room. heh
The homemade stuff would have really F'ed up Luc.
2005 Rock Shox catalogBrian HCM#1 said:No, the stuff that shot in your eye was from viewing the 2005 Rock Shox catalog, use a tissue next time
Surgeon General's Warning: Viewing the e-catalog can cause severe eye strain, if viewed for short periods of time. Irrepairable eye damage can result from long periods of viewing the e-catalog. It is recommended that you wear sunglasses for the purpose of removing those harmful UV light emitted by those Rock Shox catalog...
This was no e-catolog this was the real thing 23 glorious color pages of Rock Shox Forks, shocks, appearal and stickers. Held together by 3 huge staples, and to top it off...................................A 2005 life size calander of Steve Peat :dancing:cali4niabiker said:
yes, there is ammonia in any latex based sealant, homemade or Stan's, because it is a preservative for the latex. On a percentage basis it can't be very much. Latex is a natural product and will rot as the ammonia evaporates and the uv breaks it down. Ever smell the inside of tires when the sealant is months and months old and you haven't been refreshing it.
oakley has a new anti-radiation coating to solve this!oly said:
Ya I was going to use my home made sealant...good thing I didn't!!Brian HCM#1 said:Well there you have it, thank you
Always wear protective eyewear when operating any real external bath Boxxer!Brian HCM#1 said:No, the stuff that shot in your eye was from viewing the 2005 Rock Shox catalog, use a tissue next time
ya I had my Broadband surfing Ninja suit on, but had forgotten to wear my Oakley shades <--- Sponsor brosTranscend said:oakley has a new anti-radiation coating to solve this!
E-sponsors kick ass, but you should get hooked up with Adidas, and dump Oakley, gotta be more of a So. Cal e-freakish e-mtb'rAcadian said:ya I had my Broadband surfing Ninja suit on, but had forgotten to wear my Oakley shades <--- Sponsor bros
In my "E-world" I am faster than Steve Peat and have more style than Cedric and Wade put together. And every one wants to sponsor me...
True words.Acadian said:Always wear protective eyewear when operating any real external bath Boxxer!
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Just so you guys know. The air compressor doesn't have a lot to do with it. I have had a total of 5 blow up on me the same way. They first 2 were minions that I had mounted on Laser Disc DH rims. If you ever had to get a tire on one of these rims you know it can be tough. Well I switched them to Mavic D3.1 rims and had the same result with about 60 PSI. Just about blew my finger off the first time. Up to this point I never had a problem with Minions. My guess is they were slightly stretched out from the Laser Disc rims.
I have also had the same problem with WTB but I can't remember the model. Most recent was a Tioga White Tiger.
The reason I say the compressor isn't necessarily the problem is because I started only inflating to about 40 psi max (although I did have one blow at about 30psi). If the bead doesn't seat, I deflate and break the bead where it's not seating and soap it with full strength dish soap and reinflate. Now the fun part. I take the tire and toss it into the air, high, about 20' and let it land. Obviously you need to do this well or the tire will bounce thru the window or onto your neighbors car. At any rate EVERY tire that I thought was questionable blew of the rim on the first toss. Fortunately I am not holding on to it at the time. I now do this with every tire, cause I don't want it to blow off at 30mph on the downside of a rock drop. I have never had one blow off if it passes the toss test.
Basically it seems to come down to how easily the tire mounts on the rim. If you can get it on completely by hand without levers, LOOKOUT. Especially if it goes on really, really easy. If you got to use levers to get it on, then your are probably ok. Also tire with weak looking beads (White Tiger) can also be a problem, even if they don't go on easily. Especially watch out for tires that were mounted prior on non UST rims.
In general I have had good luck with Maxxis Mobsters and highrollers and Minions (with the exception of the minions that were mounted prior on the laser disc rims). Michelin always work good, but they are tubeless compatible, so I guess they should. WTB Timberwolf's work great. I'm sure there are others. Just remember if it goes on to easy, get your buddy to inflate it.
I have also had the same problem with WTB but I can't remember the model. Most recent was a Tioga White Tiger.
The reason I say the compressor isn't necessarily the problem is because I started only inflating to about 40 psi max (although I did have one blow at about 30psi). If the bead doesn't seat, I deflate and break the bead where it's not seating and soap it with full strength dish soap and reinflate. Now the fun part. I take the tire and toss it into the air, high, about 20' and let it land. Obviously you need to do this well or the tire will bounce thru the window or onto your neighbors car. At any rate EVERY tire that I thought was questionable blew of the rim on the first toss. Fortunately I am not holding on to it at the time. I now do this with every tire, cause I don't want it to blow off at 30mph on the downside of a rock drop. I have never had one blow off if it passes the toss test.
Basically it seems to come down to how easily the tire mounts on the rim. If you can get it on completely by hand without levers, LOOKOUT. Especially if it goes on really, really easy. If you got to use levers to get it on, then your are probably ok. Also tire with weak looking beads (White Tiger) can also be a problem, even if they don't go on easily. Especially watch out for tires that were mounted prior on non UST rims.
In general I have had good luck with Maxxis Mobsters and highrollers and Minions (with the exception of the minions that were mounted prior on the laser disc rims). Michelin always work good, but they are tubeless compatible, so I guess they should. WTB Timberwolf's work great. I'm sure there are others. Just remember if it goes on to easy, get your buddy to inflate it.
WTF? I didn't know changing a tire could be so dangerous?preppie said:Her eye healed but she lost all facial expressions on the left side
It's not so much the compressor but the speed at which you can inflate it. It gives the tire a much shorter time to slip onto the bead as say a floor pump. Like you said though, some combo's are just don't work right.RiDurbin said:
Your method probably works just fine to seat the bead, but there is also a tool that some shops have and PARK still sells for doing just this. If your having trouble with your tire and rim combo's it may be worth the cost.
Park Tire Seater
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Neat tool. Hadn't seen one of them before.ssaddict said:It's not so much the compressor but the speed at which you can inflate it. It gives the tire a much shorter time to slip onto the bead as say a floor pump. Like you said though, some combo's are just don't work right.
Your method probably works just fine to seat the bead, but there is also a tool that some shops have and PARK still sells for doing just this. If your having trouble with your tire and rim combo's it may be worth the cost.
Park Tire Seater
Actually tossing the tire in the air isn't for purpose's of seating. I actually don't toss it until I can see the bead seated evenly all the way around. The problem is that some tires will still blow off the rim, even when completely seated. Tossing it and let it bounce creates additional stress that it does get when just sitting there on the ground. I have had 3 blow off on the toss test. One took a toss of about 10' without a problem, but I was suspicious of it and it finally blew on the third toss of about 20' in the air. Generally if they take 5 good tosses, I consider them ok. I know this doesn't simulate the same force of a rider on a bike, but I'm 200lbs and haven't ever had one blow after it passed the test. Just another note. Do this on a grassy area, because if the tire blows it comes completely off the rim and you don't want your rim coming down on the concrete on the bounce return. You also obviously don't want to be standing to close when the tire hits the ground. Generally they don't fly far when they blow.