who do you guys and girls like?
Kerry or Bush
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sorry i didnt know there was one my bad
OH GOD THANK YOU!Originally posted by BikeGeek
Where should this thread be?
yet another issue Cooter and i REFUSE to discuss... cuz he is sooo not eye to eye with me on this! UGH! :angry:
Already done... please visit the POLITICAL Forum and look for the thread with a poll...
I'm going to vote for Kerry - he rides a bike!
Hey! He'll do anything.. say anything to get elected....Originally posted by MMcG
I'm going to vote for Kerry - he rides a bike!
He snowboarded
He biked
He said hip-hop was "interesting"
The only answer is anarchy.
Originally posted by BikeGeek
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damn you beat me to it. that is exactly what i was going to say
No worries. I knew that this has probably been beaten to death in there.
But look above, MMcG has made this BIKE related!Originally posted by BikeGeek
Where should this thread be?
Originally posted by I Are Baboon
But look above, MMcG has made this BIKE related!
Just trying to do my little part for the good of the Monkey! 
Neither really, but I dislike Bush more.
Is that a Serotta?
your mom
agreed
i wish.....
Having been in Haiti during the last, shall we say, "change in leadership" back in 92-93 I can assure you that you DONT want that.
Seriously, how fun would anarchy really be? Sure, for a while it would be pretty cool, but you'd eventually get tired of it.
Although I dislike that cesspool, I just found it and cast my vote.Originally posted by N8
Already done... please visit the POLITICAL Forum and look for the thread with a poll...
who says i wouldn't be one of the rednecks............Originally posted by derekbob
It cracks me up how hippys and punkrockers claim they want anarchy, but if it were to actually happen, the rednecks would kill them first
then we could run around nekkid!
I was half assed joking.Originally posted by derekbob
It cracks me up how hippys and punkrockers claim they want anarchy, but if it were to actually happen, the rednecks would kill them first
but really though, what is so wrong with trying something new?
It is funny how when you mention anarchy people always think about scenes like that.
im going with bush kerry has an STD !!!!!!
OK.Originally posted by derekbob
I was joking too, hence the ### eating grin smiley
but seriously I dont see how anarchy could boil down to anything other than ppl shooting eachother.
I propose a monarchy & I am in charge.
& everyone can run around nekkid.
BUSH/HALIBURTON '04
could?!? You mean we can't now?Originally posted by TN_Fred
then we could run around nekkid!
not unless you want to get locked up....or maybe I need to move out of the bible belt.
I don't really care for either. But it doesn't matter as the electoral college guarantees my vote is meaningless. (Live in a one-party state).
Lots of luck to those who's votes count!
Lots of luck to those who's votes count!
I read through a bunch of different newsies "Kerry" and "Bush" summaries (where they sum up what they've voted for/against and state they're for/against now). Granted, we're talking 20 minutes of research here during my weird day...but...
Other than his too liberal views on welfare/social security/social state (typical democrat blechiness)...I kinda like Kerry...he's better than Bush from my view at least and since those be the options...that be my vote.
Other than his too liberal views on welfare/social security/social state (typical democrat blechiness)...I kinda like Kerry...he's better than Bush from my view at least and since those be the options...that be my vote.
Appologies for the double posting - this will probably be more useful here...
Kerry's Manifesto
Ok, I had a bit of a google this morning. You can find a complete list of Kerry's election manifesto here, but you need to click through a couple of layers per issue (and there are a lot) to get to the meat of it.
However the big issues (as it were) I will post summaries of here (thanks MSN - did I just say that?):
1. Reduce U.S. reliance on non-renewable energy. In the Senate, Kerry has sponsored legislation to enforce strict fuel-efficiency standards on cars. As president, he would try again. He would give tax credits to companies that develop alternative automotive technology and to people who drive more advanced, fuel-efficient vehicles. Using incentives for innovation, he would aim to get 20 percent of U.S. electricity from renewable sources by 2020.
YAY! Worth voting for him just on that if you ask me!
2. Expand public and private health insurance. Kerry would automatically enroll any uninsured child with a household income up to 300 percent of the poverty level in the State Children's Health Insurance Program upon entering school. To help states afford this, the federal government would pick up the cost of all 20 million children covered by Medicaid. Kerry would let any company or individual buy into the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program. He would add a prescription drug benefit to Medicare while loosening restrictions on making cheaper generic drugs. One distinctive feature of Kerry's plan is a "rebate pool" through which the federal government would reimburse each employee health plan for 75 percent of all costs that exceeded $50,000 for a single individual. This promise would sharply cut each insurer's risk and alleviate its need to raise premiums. Kerry estimates the plan's cost at $72 billion per year for the first five years. To pay for it, he would repeal some of the 2001 or 2003 tax cuts.
Seems like a good idea on the face of it. Could be expensive, but isn't it worth it for good healthcare?
3. Institute mandatory and voluntary national service. Kerry would provide four years' tuition at a public university to any American who performed at least two years of national service. He would make some sort of community service a prerequisite for graduation from any U.S. high school. The high-school programs would be state-designed but federally funded. Under Kerry's "Retired Not Tired" program, seniors who performed at least 10 hours of service a week could get $2,000 per year to spend on health-care expenses or educating a young family member. Kerry would use Homeland Security money to train volunteers in emergency skills to compliment professional first-responders. He estimates the cost of his national service initiatives at $3.2 billion.
Woo! Kick your kid's asses into line! Interestingly, Switzerland is one of the only other western countries that does national service, but they do it 'properly' still - 2 years, full on military training, no questions, obligatory for every male. From visiting Switzerland I gotta say it seems to impact on society very well. Low crime, high employment, high standards of living, and so very very clean!
An since it's what most of us have been talking about recently:
Foreign Policy
Have a look here for the whole story, but once again, what we were arguing about:
From his website - cut and pasted from a long speech...
So, all this seems pretty sensible to me. I don't think I'd have much trouble voting for the guy.
Kerry's Manifesto
Ok, I had a bit of a google this morning. You can find a complete list of Kerry's election manifesto here, but you need to click through a couple of layers per issue (and there are a lot) to get to the meat of it.
However the big issues (as it were) I will post summaries of here (thanks MSN - did I just say that?):
1. Reduce U.S. reliance on non-renewable energy. In the Senate, Kerry has sponsored legislation to enforce strict fuel-efficiency standards on cars. As president, he would try again. He would give tax credits to companies that develop alternative automotive technology and to people who drive more advanced, fuel-efficient vehicles. Using incentives for innovation, he would aim to get 20 percent of U.S. electricity from renewable sources by 2020.
YAY! Worth voting for him just on that if you ask me!
2. Expand public and private health insurance. Kerry would automatically enroll any uninsured child with a household income up to 300 percent of the poverty level in the State Children's Health Insurance Program upon entering school. To help states afford this, the federal government would pick up the cost of all 20 million children covered by Medicaid. Kerry would let any company or individual buy into the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program. He would add a prescription drug benefit to Medicare while loosening restrictions on making cheaper generic drugs. One distinctive feature of Kerry's plan is a "rebate pool" through which the federal government would reimburse each employee health plan for 75 percent of all costs that exceeded $50,000 for a single individual. This promise would sharply cut each insurer's risk and alleviate its need to raise premiums. Kerry estimates the plan's cost at $72 billion per year for the first five years. To pay for it, he would repeal some of the 2001 or 2003 tax cuts.
Seems like a good idea on the face of it. Could be expensive, but isn't it worth it for good healthcare?
3. Institute mandatory and voluntary national service. Kerry would provide four years' tuition at a public university to any American who performed at least two years of national service. He would make some sort of community service a prerequisite for graduation from any U.S. high school. The high-school programs would be state-designed but federally funded. Under Kerry's "Retired Not Tired" program, seniors who performed at least 10 hours of service a week could get $2,000 per year to spend on health-care expenses or educating a young family member. Kerry would use Homeland Security money to train volunteers in emergency skills to compliment professional first-responders. He estimates the cost of his national service initiatives at $3.2 billion.
Woo! Kick your kid's asses into line! Interestingly, Switzerland is one of the only other western countries that does national service, but they do it 'properly' still - 2 years, full on military training, no questions, obligatory for every male. From visiting Switzerland I gotta say it seems to impact on society very well. Low crime, high employment, high standards of living, and so very very clean!
An since it's what most of us have been talking about recently:
Foreign Policy
Have a look here for the whole story, but once again, what we were arguing about:
From his website - cut and pasted from a long speech...
If you care to read the whole speech, he goes into a bit more detail.
So, all this seems pretty sensible to me. I don't think I'd have much trouble voting for the guy.