http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/teenager-liams-deadly-lesson/2006/08/29/1156816883379.html
thats quite the lesson.
kids learning the lesson. maximum parental pwnage.
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yeah not that sucks - the poor parents. They where just trying to teach their son a lesson.
My gut reaction is that those parents are assholes.
But it's hard to make an informed opinion without knowing if the kid had any kind of "criminal" past. If this was the first trouble he got into, the parents suck for making his first lesson be that tough (you'd think going through the arrest process would be enough), but if the kid has gotten into trouble before, I could see trying to set him straight by leaving him in prison.
But it's hard to make an informed opinion without knowing if the kid had any kind of "criminal" past. If this was the first trouble he got into, the parents suck for making his first lesson be that tough (you'd think going through the arrest process would be enough), but if the kid has gotten into trouble before, I could see trying to set him straight by leaving him in prison.
It said in the article that the kid had been in court several times before this incident. Tough love sucks
It's not the parents fault the turd was in prison... it was his fault.
Assign the blame where it belongs.
Teens suck.
Assign the blame where it belongs.
Teens suck.
Yup. Sad regardless!
Its definitely a sad situation for the parents. However, they thought that they were doing the right thing for their sonwho had been arrested several times in the past. Im sure his parents bailed him out every time he got in trouble, and finally they felt that he needed to learn a lesson.
A similar thing happened to a family who lived near my grandparents. Their son got involved with drugs, and ended up with a pretty big debt to some drug dealer. He went to his parents for money, and they said no. Up to this point, his parents were really trying to help him out with his problem, but he wouldnt admit he had a problem, etc., etc., etc. To make a long story short, a few days later he was murdered.
His parents took it really hard. Considering is parents were/are very well off, and they could have easily given him the money, they simply didn't know...
A similar thing happened to a family who lived near my grandparents. Their son got involved with drugs, and ended up with a pretty big debt to some drug dealer. He went to his parents for money, and they said no. Up to this point, his parents were really trying to help him out with his problem, but he wouldnt admit he had a problem, etc., etc., etc. To make a long story short, a few days later he was murdered.
His parents took it really hard. Considering is parents were/are very well off, and they could have easily given him the money, they simply didn't know...
I blame society.
For both sets of parents, trying to raise a child by teaching them there are consequences to anti-social behavior is a [very] tough job.
For both demised children - when you play with fire, chances are high that you're going to get burned.
Yes, it's a tragedy.
i blame it on rap music
I blame television.
I blame Elivs Pressley's risque dancing.
i blame video games
Its cute how none of you guys can come up with an original comment.
what is there to come up with? i agree with what the parents did. its just tragic it had to turn out that way. i know my parents would do the same thing if put in that situation. they told me if i get arrested on friday, my ass is in there until monday afternoon when they get off work. its terrible that the kid had to die, but then again, im sure if he hadnt stolen his parents car that never would have happened. i have no sympathy for the kid. i feel terrible for the parents. they didnt ask for him to die. they just knew he was going down the wrong path and wanted to teach him a lesson.
As someone who has spent time (a VERY short time) in both Los Angeles and O.C county jails (Not my fault... long story... clerical error), unless the kid came up just short of murder, I would NEVER EVER leave my kid in jail. You think it's "Tough Love", or teaching them a lesson? Then try spending some time there. Let's see how loving you think that tough love really is.
Jail is a horrible, horrible place. Perfect for rapists, murderers and child molesters. It is NOT where you teach your teen kids a lesson. Unless you've been there you just don't know. I was only in county jail and I was isolated at my request, but I saw stuff that will scare the **** out of you. I don't care how tough you THINK you are, and I don't care how long you spent as a tough guy in the military. Jail is a ****ed up place. A place you NEVER want to be. Maybe it's a joke to some of you, and maybe some of you like lovebunny just don't understand what it's like. Sure those parents should have taught their kid better, but that does not negate or lessen the pain they will feel everyday for the rest of their lives. Sure, maybe the kid would have ended up dead or in prisin on his own accord anyway, but at the very least the parents wouldn;t have to blame themselves for it.
Sorry if I sound a bit upset but after spending time in jail I have a big sore spot about it. Any parent who has been there and would still send their kids there does not deserve to be a parent. We joke about alot of things here. Kids dying in jail should not be one of them.
And who here hasn't borrowed the care without permission at least once? Probably not many of us.
Jail is a horrible, horrible place. Perfect for rapists, murderers and child molesters. It is NOT where you teach your teen kids a lesson. Unless you've been there you just don't know. I was only in county jail and I was isolated at my request, but I saw stuff that will scare the **** out of you. I don't care how tough you THINK you are, and I don't care how long you spent as a tough guy in the military. Jail is a ****ed up place. A place you NEVER want to be. Maybe it's a joke to some of you, and maybe some of you like lovebunny just don't understand what it's like. Sure those parents should have taught their kid better, but that does not negate or lessen the pain they will feel everyday for the rest of their lives. Sure, maybe the kid would have ended up dead or in prisin on his own accord anyway, but at the very least the parents wouldn;t have to blame themselves for it.
Sorry if I sound a bit upset but after spending time in jail I have a big sore spot about it. Any parent who has been there and would still send their kids there does not deserve to be a parent. We joke about alot of things here. Kids dying in jail should not be one of them.
And who here hasn't borrowed the care without permission at least once? Probably not many of us.
I haven't. I would hope that the majority hasn't.
most people here talk about 'teaching the kid a lesson'.
prison is a tough place and usually doesn't teach someone a lesson, it makes them bitter.
i have a younger brother who went to prison on the 3 strikes you're out rule. At a party caught with liquor underage = strike 1. Getting caught with pot = strike 3. Shoplifting = Strike 3. Strike 3 happened right when he turned 18 and because of this he had to go to prison for a couple of months.
No lesson was learned, he is just now extremely bitter and jaded.
I think there needs to be another solution for punishing kids who either take a car without permission or shoplift or whatever.
prison is a tough place and usually doesn't teach someone a lesson, it makes them bitter.
i have a younger brother who went to prison on the 3 strikes you're out rule. At a party caught with liquor underage = strike 1. Getting caught with pot = strike 3. Shoplifting = Strike 3. Strike 3 happened right when he turned 18 and because of this he had to go to prison for a couple of months.
No lesson was learned, he is just now extremely bitter and jaded.
I think there needs to be another solution for punishing kids who either take a car without permission or shoplift or whatever.
ahaaahaha
First of all, I blame TJ, cuz I think he just screwed the world over, but I also blame the parents, maybe it wouldnt have happened if the parents kept out a better eye on the kid.
that's ridiculous. parents raise there kids the best they can, but can't guard them 100% of the time.
my brother and i were raised by the same parents. i was a very good kid and my brother wasn't. had nothing to do with parenting. had more to do with some kids just get lost due to other things... learning disabilities, mental instabilities, etc...
well said mate.
From my experience and from what others I have known and know. Jail never teaches you anything good. Atleast without a big cost that most folks cannot afford.
Wasnt he killed in the back of a van on the way to prison? Why was a kid who stole his parents car on the same bus as killers? I dont really know anything about going to jail or the prison system, but shouldnt there be someone watching the prisoners to make sure they arent killing each other?
Some other info on the case.....
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411365/823831
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411365/823831
Oh man.
I blame Partsy, the secret right hand man of George Bush and The GOP!
"Once were warriors" types still exists down here unfortunately. 
If is the fear of obtaining a sore spot in prison that keeps me from doing anything to go there.
Jeremy will not be the victim of a prison style
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