Kirk Cameron: Steaming pile of crazy
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I guess steaming pile could accurately describe his career path.
Oh yeah he's a douche bag for sure. He needs to check his history first though with reference to the "Origin of Species" and Hitler.......he's way off. Around the turn of the century there was a push by some German theologians (most notibly Albert Schweitzer) to explore the "historical Jesus" and the findings challenged some of the long held notions of the German church. There was significant backlash to these ideas starting around 1920's, and in the German church a "herminutical gap" of understanding was created, denying any historical ties to the context of 1st Century Judaism, the German church created a very "un Jewish" Jesus and thus gave a nod and a wink to Hitlers "final solution".
It had nothing to do with Darwin...........what an asshat.............
It had nothing to do with Darwin...........what an asshat.............
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Yeah, it might be time to stop pretending that all those good Germans who pushed the Jews into the gas chambers were anything other than mostly good Christians. I don't think Hitler was taking Darwin's ideas to their logical conclusions...but I can see where Adolf was taking Luther's ideas pretty seriously:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies
you read people magazine? now that is a steaming pile of "uber" crazy for the birds
Yeah I've never been a fan of Luther and his ideas. Pretty crazy that throughout the years Christians have been Jesus' people's worst enemies.......
Crazy? It's in the Bible...ze Jews are ze chosen people who faltered. Given everything, they denied Jesus.
Imagine, a bunch of people who won't listen to rational ideas took those concepts and ran with them. No one could have predicted...
(Except Jesus, maybe. But the Jews killed him.)
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^^ roflcopteromgwtfbbq
F@#k Faith.
You know, everyone has their own version of faith. To deny or deride anothers faith is really pretty ****ty. Live and let live for cryin out loud...even if a former teen idol is bat **** crazy. Let him have his delusions.
No one is denying Mr. Cameron anything. He's the one who chose to not keep his delusions private, remember.
I am not talking about denying him his faith, its talking down to or about him because of his faith that bugs me. Tha is the problem all around. Why can we not simply accept anothers view point as his or hers? You know, the whole although I do not agree with what you say, I would fight to the death to preserve your right to say it stuff...
I haven't seen anyone here demand a stop to this guy talking about, publishing, and handing this garbage out. We're just calling him an idiot, which is our right.
It's a problem when we have the opinion that Kirk Cameron is an idiot, but not a problem that he equates "Darwinism" to Naziism?
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You're against female circumcision? Suicide bombers walking into cafes in Tel Aviv? People being hanged from cranes in Iran because they are gay? You shouldn't be. Live and let live, right?
You know, when religious idiots stop coming at arguments from the point of view that states that I'm going to be tortured forever because I don't believe in their invisible friend, I'll moderate my stance. You do notice that there aren't a lot of posts here about the evils of Unitarianism or Zen Buddhism, right? Ever wonder why that is?
As for your last point, I don't recall anyone here making the argument that Kirk Cameron shouldn't be allowed to make **** up and peddle it. If someone has, please point that out.
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Cuz he's an idiot who wishes his views to be spread.
Like silver has said in the past: Keep this shlt up and we'll all be in internment camps because we know how to read.
Personally I'm done with tolerance of the specific advancement of stupidity. We've already got half the damn country thinking a college education is a corrupting influence. Educated people are referred to as 'elites'. Give me a fvcking break.
I like it when "intellectual" is used as an insult.
Really?I like it when "intellectual" is used as an insult.
Makes me start to feel all stabby.
The problem is that he is not making a "faith claim" in the sense of relaying something possibly subjective, beyond proof, beyond language or at the edge of experience. He is offering a scientific claim, in the broad sense of the term: an argument based on "reasoned" reflection of public knowledge and public facts. Even in the realm of theology he is not making a faith claim, but rather he seems to be offering an argument based on conceptual claims that can be debated.
There is something to be said for simply ignoring this nonsense (live and let live or something like that), but the problem is that what he is saying has real, negative social effects.
I do, however, highly doubt that he has "ruffled some feathers" in academic ranks because, well, those people probably don't give a crap about Kirk Cameron and will mostly just laugh at him. I hope he goes to all the top 50 universities, because he will probably be laughed at there too. I attend the divinity school at one of those universities and there is no doubt that he would be the subject of ridicule there as well. Maybe that wouldn't be the best response, or the most effective way to change the way conservatives think about these issues, but the guy's point is so absurd I cannot imagine that any amount of debate would help the matter.
Stabby I tell ya.
Hey, I am not saying he isnt bat**** crazy...but he has a right to his veiws. If some clown journalist is clown enough to publish his views, so be it.
Internment camps for those who know how to read...arent we reaching a bit here? Glenn Beck in reverse?
Internment camps for those who know how to read...arent we reaching a bit here? Glenn Beck in reverse?
Nothing bad should come out of any religion...but it still does when the extremists start acting up.
Well, my point was that he says Darwinism taken to extremes is very bad, using Hitler as an example, so that we shouldn't put any credit in Darwinism.
With a guy promoting religion as the alternative, his argument sort of falls apart right there. He's saying Darwinism is bad taken to the extremes? Well, even mentioning Hitler as an extension of Darwinism is a pretty big leap of convenience for him. There are far, far more bad things that could be concretely attributed to followers of religion going to extremes. And as pointed out, the vast majority of Nazis were Christians themselves.
Got nothing against religion per se myself, but I do find stupidity offensive at times.
I once heard someone say that if you resort to bringing up Hitler in an argument, you should automatically lose. I don't think it's a bad rule.
Mentioning Hitler is always a hot link to attracting attention...just ask the birthers.
And the internet is the starting point for leaps of conveinience. Hell, this forum is the focal point for said leaps.
My single simple point was that Bat**** Crazy Kirk has a right to his opinions, no matter how weird and skewed they are. Just as those who dont agree have the right to ignore him...
And he had the potential to be another Scott Baio.
And the internet is the starting point for leaps of conveinience. Hell, this forum is the focal point for said leaps.
My single simple point was that Bat**** Crazy Kirk has a right to his opinions, no matter how weird and skewed they are. Just as those who dont agree have the right to ignore him...
And he had the potential to be another Scott Baio.
Again, no one is arguing against you.
I also have the right to call him a ****ing stupid idiot. That street, to the horror of religious fanatics all over the place, goes two ways in civilized countries.
Yup...