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Born Again Newbie
Sep 5, 2001
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Jeremy R said:
Why is Mike Piazza throwing down gang signs in your avatar?
He is not being a very good role model for the kids. :nope:

:p :blah:
hahaha..you foo!! You're like the 10th preson that tells me I look like Piazza! :eek:

That's the new gang sign for E13 YO!


;)
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
5,933
5,335
Australia
stoney98 said:
the fact that that is a "local" race podium is funked up. It's insane how fast the "local pro's" are if that's the competition.
Tell me about it :(

at my local club races (less than 100 people usually) we've got to race Kovarik, Rennie and Graves. Everyone else is racing for 4th.
 
May 24, 2002
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Boulder CO
toodles said:
Tell me about it :(

at my local club races (less than 100 people usually) we've got to race Kovarik, Rennie and Graves. Everyone else is racing for 4th.
that's what i hope for man...

so sick to chase those guys, its how you get better.
 

toodles

ridiculously corgi proportioned
Aug 24, 2004
5,933
5,335
Australia
neversummersnow said:
that's what i hope for man...

so sick to chase those guys, its how you get better.
Until you get sick of it and quit :)

Chris races his hardtail at the club races sometimes to give the rest of us a chance.
 

heikkihall

Monkey
Dec 14, 2001
882
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Durango, CO
I want to have my local races that stacked. I cant think of anywhere else in the world that would have a turnout like that for a small local race. It happens in ski races all the time but in biking I cant really think of any towns or regions of the world that have an abundance of world class downhillers clustered together. Thats sweet!
 

partsbara

Turbo Monkey
Nov 16, 2001
3,995
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heikkihall said:
I want to have my local races that stacked. I cant think of anywhere else in the world that would have a turnout like that for a small local race. It happens in ski races all the time but in biking I cant really think of any towns or regions of the world that have an abundance of world class downhillers clustered together. Thats sweet!
VEGIMITE is the answer :)
 

Dylan

Monkey
Jan 25, 2002
141
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San Diego area, California, USA
partsbara said:
VEGIMITE is the answer :)

blah :eviltongu that just put a nasty taste in my mouth! haha

4X results
ELITE MEN

1. Nathan Rennie
2. Chris Kovarik (DylanDeanDesigns)
3. Cameron Palmer
4. Dennis Beare

5. Bryn Atkinson (DylanDeanDesigns)
6. Dave McLaughlin
7. David Wardell
8. Luke Strom

Ricky Boyer
Mitch Afflick
Jill Kinter
Tim Bardsley-Smith

Hell ya! Jill Kintner riding w/ the boys!
 

heikkihall

Monkey
Dec 14, 2001
882
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Durango, CO
Thats sweet! I remember when anne caro raced with the guys at mt snow and schooled a bunch of them at the first ever norba mtnx race. That course was pretty good too.
 

Silver

find me a tampon
Jul 20, 2002
10,840
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Orange County, CA
SuspectDevice said:
All those icky hairy legs... YUCK. Those guys need to learn how to shave if they want to move beyond the "local pro" level.
I noticed that too...

Having said that, I finished up a date with a bathtub and a razor...maybe if you shave, you notice it more?
 

Metal

President of FRONJ
Oct 17, 2001
542
7
Orange County, CA
heikkihall said:
I cant really think of any towns or regions of the world that have an abundance of world class downhillers clustered together. Thats sweet!
...Southern California, but our pros don't usually go to Fontucky races.
 

John P.

Turbo Monkey
Sep 24, 2001
1,170
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Golden, CO
To derail this thread a bit further, it seems pretty obvious that one big reason that the guys from Aus and NZ are so good is because they race all 'winter' while the rest of the North Americans and Europeans sit around and get fat. When is a northern hemisphere pro male going to get serious about competing on the worldwide level and start spending their winters south of the equator? Sure, the top dudes are training and hitting the few scattered races out in So Cal and Boulder City during the winter, but nothing where you're going to find the caliber of riding that they have over at a national series race in Australia or New Zealand.

Considering how many Aussies and Kiwis come up here during the summer and nickle and dime it around North America and Europe on tight budgets, it would seem very financially feasible for the northerners to do the opposite, especially when you take into account that by and large, the northern hemisphere guys are on the better side of the currency conversion. I can understand the desire to take time off, but you hear so many guys talking about their dream to go big time that it seems as though a few of them would pony up the dough and ambition to take the next big step.

I don't know . . . I guess it's just a random rambling by an American who remembers what it was like to see his own countrymen on the tops of World Cup Podiums. Sure, the U.S. pioneered the sport, but the days of guys like Tomac, Rockwell, and Palmer pulling off World Cup wins are LONG gone.

--JP
 

ÆX

Turbo Monkey
Sep 8, 2001
4,920
18
NM
bizutch said:
So are you and Dave stashing away a little nest egg to smuggle Heiki and Seth down under for the winter?

Dave's always up for a good test.....:sneaky:
or better yet South America!, its all about Chile!
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
13,322
5,508
Copenhagen, Denmark
John P. said:
To derail this thread a bit further, it seems pretty obvious that one big reason that the guys from Aus and NZ are so good is because they race all 'winter' while the rest of the North Americans and Europeans sit around and get fat. When is a northern hemisphere pro male going to get serious about competing on the worldwide level and start spending their winters south of the equator? Sure, the top dudes are training and hitting the few scattered races out in So Cal and Boulder City during the winter, but nothing where you're going to find the caliber of riding that they have over at a national series race in Australia or New Zealand.

Considering how many Aussies and Kiwis come up here during the summer and nickle and dime it around North America and Europe on tight budgets, it would seem very financially feasible for the northerners to do the opposite, especially when you take into account that by and large, the northern hemisphere guys are on the better side of the currency conversion. I can understand the desire to take time off, but you hear so many guys talking about their dream to go big time that it seems as though a few of them would pony up the dough and ambition to take the next big step.

I don't know . . . I guess it's just a random rambling by an American who remembers what it was like to see his own countrymen on the tops of World Cup Podiums. Sure, the U.S. pioneered the sport, but the days of guys like Tomac, Rockwell, and Palmer pulling off World Cup wins are LONG gone.

--JP
Good point but it was a Brit running away with the WC and a French with the Gold. Is there is even better stuff going on in Europe?
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
13,322
5,508
Copenhagen, Denmark
I think you are right. I have been on a strickt Stella Artois diet for a year now and I am faster than last year hence Stella makes you faster.
 

Cant Climb

Turbo Monkey
May 9, 2004
2,683
10
Supposedly Cairns and Canberra are mountain bike trail meccas.

That's what i have been told from lesser know aussies........sounded like pretty much DH heaven down there. So not only do they ride all wiinter they are riding their brains out........those guys get wads of saddle time.
 

heikkihall

Monkey
Dec 14, 2001
882
0
Durango, CO
dexter said:
next winter im doing summer abroad in nz or aussy land for that exact reason
I have looked into it and hope to go abroad in the very near future. Preferably to the southern hemisphere. But last time I looked there were no programs that I could find in the regions of countries that I wanted to be in that would suit the needs for my major. Maybe a change of major is in need :devil:
 

CBJ

year old fart
Mar 19, 2002
13,322
5,508
Copenhagen, Denmark
Are there at all any place with lift access. A little mini Whistler would be cool and worth a trip in the winter. I wouldn't mind two weeks of DH in February in Australia or NZ.
 

partsbara

Turbo Monkey
Nov 16, 2001
3,995
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John P. said:
To derail this thread a bit further, it seems pretty obvious that one big reason that the guys from Aus and NZ are so good is because they race all 'winter' while the rest of the North Americans and Europeans sit around and get fat. When is a northern hemisphere pro male going to get serious about competing on the worldwide level and start spending their winters south of the equator? Sure, the top dudes are training and hitting the few scattered races out in So Cal and Boulder City during the winter, but nothing where you're going to find the caliber of riding that they have over at a national series race in Australia or New Zealand.

Considering how many Aussies and Kiwis come up here during the summer and nickle and dime it around North America and Europe on tight budgets, it would seem very financially feasible for the northerners to do the opposite, especially when you take into account that by and large, the northern hemisphere guys are on the better side of the currency conversion. I can understand the desire to take time off, but you hear so many guys talking about their dream to go big time that it seems as though a few of them would pony up the dough and ambition to take the next big step.

I don't know . . . I guess it's just a random rambling by an American who remembers what it was like to see his own countrymen on the tops of World Cup Podiums. Sure, the U.S. pioneered the sport, but the days of guys like Tomac, Rockwell, and Palmer pulling off World Cup wins are LONG gone.

--JP

exactly... :thumb:

CURRENCY = driven... AUD (peso) VS USD (big strong money ;) )... = we go fast and make some coin... not that the USD is much these days against the euro :(..

MORE VEGIMITE FOR THE AUSSIE ARMY !!!!!!!!!

fvck, i m pissed.. it time for bed..
 

heikkihall

Monkey
Dec 14, 2001
882
0
Durango, CO
John P. said:
To derail this thread a bit further, it seems pretty obvious that one big reason that the guys from Aus and NZ are so good is because they race all 'winter' while the rest of the North Americans and Europeans sit around and get fat. When is a northern hemisphere pro male going to get serious about competing on the worldwide level and start spending their winters south of the equator? Sure, the top dudes are training and hitting the few scattered races out in So Cal and Boulder City during the winter, but nothing where you're going to find the caliber of riding that they have over at a national series race in Australia or New Zealand.

Considering how many Aussies and Kiwis come up here during the summer and nickle and dime it around North America and Europe on tight budgets, it would seem very financially feasible for the northerners to do the opposite, especially when you take into account that by and large, the northern hemisphere guys are on the better side of the currency conversion. I can understand the desire to take time off, but you hear so many guys talking about their dream to go big time that it seems as though a few of them would pony up the dough and ambition to take the next big step.

I don't know . . . I guess it's just a random rambling by an American who remembers what it was like to see his own countrymen on the tops of World Cup Podiums. Sure, the U.S. pioneered the sport, but the days of guys like Tomac, Rockwell, and Palmer pulling off World Cup wins are LONG gone.

--JP
Yea you could say its because they ride year round. Or that their competitive season basically never ends, which will only lead to constant progression. Or that there is so much talent packed into a small geographic area which only makes them more competitive. (somehow Sam Hill and Waddell grew up thousands of miles away from the rest of the pinners though) I just think theyre far more GNAR than anyone else on the circuit. Their country was started because a bunch of criminals and outlaws were banished to this island with some of the gnarliest surroundings that exist. I think the vegemite probably has alot to do with it too.
 

CTR

Chimp
Sep 1, 2002
94
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Australia
CBJ said:
Are there at all any place with lift access. A little mini Whistler would be cool and worth a trip in the winter. I wouldn't mind two weeks of DH in February in Australia or NZ.

i think we have one lift access mountain, and it's got nothing really compared to the stuff you guys have.

most guys do alot of shuttles and even the odd push run when you can't get someone with a ute to drive you.
 

CTR

Chimp
Sep 1, 2002
94
0
Australia
CBJ said:
and why is that? You don't even have the same insurance problems.
well we only have like 3 comerical ski mountains to start off with and therefore bugger all lifts.

you have to keep in mind our highest mountain is only about 6500 feet high and the rest of the country is pretty flat with a very small population and large distances between anything, so even if we did have the mountains for it it probably wouldn't be commercially viable to open up many other areas.

random fact: australia has a average of 6.5 people per sq mile of land where you guys have something closer to 70 people per sq mile.
 

thaflyinfatman

Turbo Monkey
Jul 20, 2002
1,577
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Victoria
CBJ said:
Are there at all any place with lift access. A little mini Whistler would be cool and worth a trip in the winter. I wouldn't mind two weeks of DH in February in Australia or NZ.
There's two places in Aus with lift access, Mt Buller and Thredbo. Thredbo has one track (which is insanely long and tiring, 6:30 for dudes like Rennie), Buller has two (yep, only two trails) which are kinda polar opposites - one is fast and flowy from top to bottom, the other is slower, steep, and pretty technical. If you're used to having a variety of trails to choose from at any given venue, Australia is not for you! All the DH riding over here is on pretty much singular tracks, mostly out in the middle of nowhere, and there's very rarely another track at the same "venue".

In NZ, there's a number of places around Queenstown with lifted riding (Treble Cone, Cardrona etc). They also have some helibiking and stuff, and (real) mtb tours in/around Queenstown. Near Wanaka (which is like 1-2hrs drive from queenstown) there's HEAPS of trails, not lifted though. They have full on publicly-available trail maps and stuff available, as well as *decent* hire bikes.

If you're looking for a DH holiday... NZ is probably a better bet IMO. You really need a car to be able to do much in Aus, since Thredbo and Buller are freaking miles from anywhere.
 

thaflyinfatman

Turbo Monkey
Jul 20, 2002
1,577
0
Victoria
heikkihall said:
Yea you could say its because they ride year round. Or that their competitive season basically never ends, which will only lead to constant progression. Or that there is so much talent packed into a small geographic area which only makes them more competitive. (somehow Sam Hill and Waddell grew up thousands of miles away from the rest of the pinners though) I just think theyre far more GNAR than anyone else on the circuit. Their country was started because a bunch of criminals and outlaws were banished to this island with some of the gnarliest surroundings that exist. I think the vegemite probably has alot to do with it too.
I reckon it has a lot to do with the class system. You guys have Beginner, Sport, Expert, Semi-pro, Pro. We just have Sport, Expert, Pro/Elite. If you're a novice, you ride sport; if you're a decent rider you ride expert, if you're any good at all you ride Elite and have your arse absolutely reamed by dudes with speed coming out their arse. I reckon you guys are too segregated for your own good, sure you might have a better chance in whatever class, but maybe you don't get such a sense of "either I hit everything at mach 3 or have my arse handed to me". At the last club race I did, there were about 70 people there... and two (mighta been three) dudes who raced the world champs... and there's plenty of local guys who beat them too. And nobody here really takes it seriously either, they're just the guys you ride with on the weekends who happen to be faster than the rest of us. Virtually none of them are sponsored either (other than maybe given cheaper stuff by their lbs or a free jersey or something), and nobody really aspires to be sponsored (as far as I can tell).

Edit: our surroundings aren't "gnarly" man. Nobody lives out in the desert! Most of the inhabited areas of Aus are just boring countryside/farmland or forests (or cities, duh). It's not like we're out there in 40deg heat every day slaving away trying to kill scorpions that we find living under our sand-igloos ;)