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LA Boycotts Arizona? Arizona turns off LA's power

sanjuro

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/arizona-threatens-turn-lights-off-los-angeles-city/story?id=10691844

Arizona Fights Back Against Boycott Threats Due to Immigration Law
Arizona Says It Will Pull Plug on LA's Electricity
By EMILY FRIEDMAN

May 19, 2010 —

Arizona is threatening to leave Los Angeles in the dark -- and its air conditioners without power -- if the city doesn't rescind its order to boycott the state over Arizona's tough new immigration law.

"I feel like if you're going to boycott the candy store, you've got to leave all the candy alone," said Arizona Corporation Commissioner Gary Pierce. Arizona provides 25 percent of Los Angeles' power.

"I feel like Arizona is the candy store," he added.
 

jonKranked

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if they're referring to the hoover dam, it shares the border with nevada. doesn't seem like it would exactly be easy for them to just flip the switch.
 

jonKranked

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Dear Arizona:

Think before you speak.

"I want to make clear that we support the City position regarding the recent law enacted in Arizona and the resolution adopted by the Los Angeles City Council.
On any given day, we receive 20 – 25% of our power from two power plants located in Arizona: Navajo, a coal-fired plant, and Palo Verde, a nuclear plant.

We are part owner of both power plants, which are generating assets of the Department.
As such, nothing in the City’s resolution is inconsistent with our continuing to receive power from those LADWP-owned assets.

I might add that, as the City’s Job Czar, I certainly would welcome any conventions or meetings that were going to be held in Arizona to come to Los Angeles. We have fantastic facilities and incomparable weather and we’d welcome them to the City of Angels."
- Austin Beutner, General Manager, Los Angeles Department of Water and Power
http://www.ladwpnews.com/go/doc/1475/555479/
 

dante

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if they're referring to the hoover dam, it shares the border with nevada. doesn't seem like it would exactly be easy for them to just flip the switch.
I believe that CA gets their power from several other states, at least that was my impression from the Enron days of selling electrical power across state lines. What would be funny is if LA said "ok, we'll get our power from NV instead, so AZ, enjoy not receiving our x billion dollars..."
 

jonKranked

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I believe that CA gets their power from several other states, at least that was my impression from the Enron days of selling electrical power across state lines. What would be funny is if LA said "ok, we'll get our power from NV instead, so AZ, enjoy not receiving our x billion dollars..."
see my previous post :rofl:
 

$tinkle

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doesn't CA grow & export a significant amt of food? as principled as this stand may appear, it's a strategic misstep by AZ
 

X3pilot

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With LA and California's budget and economic woes, I'm surprised they are spending money to respond to this. Better press I suppose.

And without all those immigrants, who needs food? Who's going to make burritos now?
 

3D.

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and NO POTUS...

Guilty verdict in Obama (mock) trial
http://www.examiner.com/x-37620-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m5d19-Guilty-verdict-in-Obama-trial-more-questions-than-answers?cid=examiner-email

just one more reason the people of this country are going to go ape sh!t

Social Security Number of Barack Hussein Obama Belongs to Someone 119 Years Old
http://hubpages.com/hub/Social-Security-Number-of-Barack-Hussein-Obama-Belongs-to-Someone-119-Years-Old

some funny stuff right here... so much for being transparent. :thumb:
 

3D.

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snopes? really? you're joking, right??

you mean: David and Barbara Mikkelson from San Fernando Valley, California. The husband and wife team with no investigation team, no lawyers, and no formal training in either field.

hey, i heard bozo the clown is a whiz with the internet... I heard he has the 'bottom line' all the controversial issues. Let's make him the authority on all the things that matter. Awesome!
 

Pesqueeb

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snopes? really? you're joking, right??

you mean: David and Barbara Mikkelson from San Fernando Valley, California. The husband and wife team with no investigation team, no lawyers, and no formal training in either field.

hey, i heard bozo the clown is a whiz with the internet... I heard he has the 'bottom line' all the controversial issues. Let's make him the authority on all the things that matter. Awesome!
Are you seriously spouting that birther crap? :confused: Your hardly in a place to be questioning the legitimacy of Snopes if your buying that conspiracy.


here's a better source for debunking misinformation, snopes is sooo Bush era.

good luck in your findings;)

http://www.america.gov/conspiracy_theories.html?gclid=CMCko66n4KECFRMsbwodJ21xKg
And you do realize that the home page of your link directly references Snopes under its "Resorces On Misinformation" heading on the right side of the page?
 
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3D.

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birther, such a cute little label. no i'm not spouting, i don't have too. with a christmas list of hidden records like his, his birth certificate is the least of my concerns. I didn't vote for the liar, but if you did, I can see why you would have a hard time with the truth at this point.

not meant for public consumption:
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham’s divorce decree.
24 Why isn’t Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn’t Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?


how much prozac are you guys munching on?:D
 

3D.

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well let's hear than, what is your stance on it.

If I'm such an idoit for questioning the validity of who he claims to be, when he has never produced a single document to prove such such status and has already shown that he his a pathological liar by what we've witnessed through wall street bail-outs, over extended wars, and a hoax of campaign promises.

If I'm the idiot, than what does that make you??

Put something up your own words, something other than you're gay little internet quote pics. The list of undisclosed information is real and it's a long one.

So let's hear it from ya, what's your take on it?

Transparency is a word that the current administration should not be allowed to use.
 

valve bouncer

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snopes? really? you're joking, right??

you mean: David and Barbara Mikkelson from San Fernando Valley, California. The husband and wife team with no investigation team, no lawyers, and no formal training in either field.

hey, i heard bozo the clown is a whiz with the internet... I heard he has the 'bottom line' all the controversial issues. Let's make him the authority on all the things that matter. Awesome!
If you believe that Obama didn't go to Columbia then you are a nut case with no credibility.
----------------------End of thread. Cut here.-------------------------------
 

3D.

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I'm not saying he didn't go to columbia (specifically), maybe he did, maybe he didn't... my point is; where are the documents... not just from college, but from his whole existence which has now lead to one of the most powerful positions on the planet.

And what's your stance VB, I'm tired of blanket statements like yours.. they're old, tired, and played out... explain your position on the list of undisclosed info. Give something that explains why your so credible on debunking an irrefutable list of such hidden information...

let's hear it in your own words, cause all I see right now is diversion from the real discussion
 

Pesqueeb

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If you believe that Obama didn't go to Columbia then you are a nut case with no credibility.
----------------------End of thread. Cut here.-------------------------------
:stupid:
Please use the search function. This :tinfoil: talk has been discussed ad infinitum with your fellow secret world government/black helicopter/one bong hit-away-from-a-straight-jacket/flat earthers The Desmondo and RenegadeRick. (what happened to RR by the way?) Turn off Alex Jones and Coast to Coast A.M. and let the thread get back to its original subject, illegal aliens, and not the Roswell type the Government is hiding. :rolleyes:
 

bohorec

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Didn't read the whole thread, but are you saying that obama is fake or something? So who's behind the plot, aliens, muslims, socialists or all of them combined?
 

3D.

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:stupid:
Please use the search function. This :tinfoil: talk has been discussed ad infinitum with your fellow secret world government/black helicopter/one bong hit-away-from-a-straight-jacket/flat earthers The Desmondo and RenegadeRick. (what happened to RR by the way?) Turn off Alex Jones and Coast to Coast A.M. and let the thread get back to its original subject, illegal aliens, and not the Roswell type the Government is hiding. :rolleyes:
this is your rebuttal... come on! how fukin old are you... you couldn't be more wrong.

give something that makes sense and answers my original question:

In your own words, what is your opinion of this undisclosed information that is usually made readily available to the public, by all other 43 presidents before him?

or can you not even think for yourself enough to ask it?
 

3D.

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Didn't read the whole thread, but are you saying that obama is fake or something? So who's behind the plot, aliens, muslims, socialists or all of them combined?
the MIC and global banks... the same people Dwight and many others warned about many years before
 

valve bouncer

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I'm not saying he didn't go to columbia (specifically), maybe he did, maybe he didn't... my point is; where are the documents... not just from college, but from his whole existence which has now lead to one of the most powerful positions on the planet.

And what's your stance VB, I'm tired of blanket statements like yours.. they're old, tired, and played out... explain your position on the list of undisclosed info. Give something that explains why your so credible on debunking an irrefutable list of such hidden information...

let's hear it in your own words, cause all I see right now is diversion from the real discussion
This is the game you mental defectives play, demanding responses for your moronic ramblings when the perfectly reasonable course of action is to treat them with complete and utter disdain. I'm not going to give your nonsensical stance any kind of legitimacy. I regard the wild-eyed retardation you spew forth here as I would the deranged rantings of a lunatic- with a mixture of pity and scorn.
 

sanjuro

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well let's hear than, what is your stance on it.

If I'm such an idoit for questioning the validity of who he claims to be, when he has never produced a single document to prove such such status and has already shown that he his a pathological liar by what we've witnessed through wall street bail-outs, over extended wars, and a hoax of campaign promises.

If I'm the idiot, than what does that make you??

Put something up your own words, something other than you're gay little internet quote pics. The list of undisclosed information is real and it's a long one.

So let's hear it from ya, what's your take on it?

Transparency is a word that the current administration should not be allowed to use.
I don't know how my (inaccurate) posting of an Arizona attempted electric embargo became an Obama birther thread.

Unfortunately for you, I have to deal with this on a frequent basis from a good friend of mine.

Let me point this out:

You have listed a bunch of questions about proof of Obama's official documents. I am not going to spend time finding these documents for your examination, and you are too lazy or stupid to try to find proof for your edification.

So you have unanswered questions that the average person either does not care or has no access to.

You can pat yourself on the back for asking what you see as unanswerable.
 

bmfpeterson

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is it really that big of deal that they are enforcing people to obey a law that has been in effect since forever ago?

And you cant tell me that any one of you guys in CA have never drove down the freeway behind a 1980 chevy that smokes and is driving 10mph under the sped limit with a landscape trailer and 4 Mexicans in the cab, and thought to your self "damn Mexicans get outta my way" maybe Im wrong but its the same damn thing as the police are going to do but instead pull them over and ask for ID..........
 

blue

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is it really that big of deal that they are enforcing people to obey a law that has been in effect since forever ago?

And you cant tell me that any one of you guys in CA have never drove down the freeway behind a 1980 chevy that smokes and is driving 10mph under the sped limit with a landscape trailer and 4 Mexicans in the cab, and thought to your self "damn Mexicans get outta my way" maybe Im wrong but its the same damn thing as the police are going to do but instead pull them over and ask for ID..........
Kindly get the fvck out.

Thanks.