Skip Bayless has opened Pandora's Box implying Allan "Thug" Iverson may be able to ride Da Tour Day Frants
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/050725
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/050725
Lance not a good athlete??
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I wouldn't pay too much attention to that wind-bag. Remember, it's his job to create controversy to garner readership for his columns.
Also, he writes the exact same column every year that Lance wins the Tour.
Also, he writes the exact same column every year that Lance wins the Tour.
Wow. Just wow.
He used to work in Chicago until he started talking smack on Jordan.
Skip Bayless is an idiot. He also wrote that Rafael Palmeiro is not Hall of Fame material.
He is also lazy. He recycles the same column every year. He just changes it up a little bit and has it printed so that he becomes part of the story instead of somebody reporting on it.
eh, he is doing a good job of pissing cyclists off by really not saying anything of substance.
You can't compare apples to oranges.
Comparing Lance to say Jordan is just rediculous
You can't compare apples to oranges.
Comparing Lance to say Jordan is just rediculous
He's a moron
He's never done a 100 KPH mountain descent. Or a climb Cycling is one of only two sports where ahteletes can give themselves heart attacks, the other is marathon running.
Never seen a finish line sprint, or a time trial either...
I'd argue it's acute for 24 days. Any mistake will ruin your chances.
100 Kph descent... Sprint.... I like to see an unco try to sprint a race bike. How riding in a peleton with a hundred and sixty five guys...
Yeah, it's too F'ing hard, for the ball babys. They could turn a quick buck somewhere else.
Bayless is the reason why we have the big 3 sports in America, and everything else is 5th place.
I know the Lance PR machine is at its most acute right now, but you don't hear articles about how Tiger is not an athlete, Dale Jr. is not an athlete, blah blah blah.
I wonder how the golfing or the NASCAR audience and sponsors (two much larger groups than cycling participants) would react if Bayless got on a rant on their heroes. Maybe that is why he can pick on the cyclists...
American sportwriters want to write about a single defining moment. There is no "The Catch", "The Hit", or "The Fumble" to write about in cycling. Racing is a series of events culminating to the finish line. The early attack affects the final sprint. The loss of a rider affects the team 3 stages from now. Even the training months before affects the race now.
Try reading the coverage for a race then reading one for a basketball game. You see how lengthy race coverage is compare to the "sound bite" b-ball story. I think that is the other big reason why American sportwriters really hate cycling: they don't know how to write about it.
I know the Lance PR machine is at its most acute right now, but you don't hear articles about how Tiger is not an athlete, Dale Jr. is not an athlete, blah blah blah.
I wonder how the golfing or the NASCAR audience and sponsors (two much larger groups than cycling participants) would react if Bayless got on a rant on their heroes. Maybe that is why he can pick on the cyclists...
American sportwriters want to write about a single defining moment. There is no "The Catch", "The Hit", or "The Fumble" to write about in cycling. Racing is a series of events culminating to the finish line. The early attack affects the final sprint. The loss of a rider affects the team 3 stages from now. Even the training months before affects the race now.
Try reading the coverage for a race then reading one for a basketball game. You see how lengthy race coverage is compare to the "sound bite" b-ball story. I think that is the other big reason why American sportwriters really hate cycling: they don't know how to write about it.
riderx said:
Contortion? It takes some skill to put your foot in your mouth even though your head is up your ass...
Bayless, while not only slagging Palmeiro, claimed that Emmitt Smith was overrated. That one got him run out of Dallas.
The pressure through 21 Tour stages is constant, but rarely if ever acute.
Tell that to Rasmussen.
Tell that to Rasmussen.
It's fun to see Bayless on PTI with Stephen A Smith. Smith tears him a new one every time.DRB said:
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Oh so thats criteria he used, so since as a cub scout I tinkered with model rocketery I have the technical qualifications to dissect information with NASA and their Shuttle problems...the Inbred said:
What a Jag....
I guess that means since I once wrote for a school newspaper I can tell him he's a hack and worthless as a journalist and human baing.MunkeeHucker said:
Who hasnt?the Inbred said:
Obviously this could never happen, but it would kick ass if Lance said OK, Allen Iverson, or whoever, I will give you 1 year to train, then we do a 50k time trial for a million bucks. See how many takers he gets.
OMFG...I just spit water all over the place! 100% AWESOME quote!!!OGRipper said:Contortion? It takes some skill to put your foot in your mouth even though your head is up your ass...
Why thank you. And may I say, you have excellent taste in quotes.TreeSaw said:OMFG...I just spit water all over the place! 100% AWESOME quote!!!
Some challengers might have a chance if Lance "swims in food" for the year...nah, scratch that, he'd probably still spank all challengers.Echo said:
But it is funny thinking of a Lance all ballooned out like Eddy Merckx from a few years ago.
I hate narrow minded sport columnists. I guess Skip forgot Lance was one of the top triathletes in the world but those are just minor details 
I think you're probably right, but do you think LeMond or Merckx would have answered the same questions by saying "Hell yeah buddy, I'm gonna blow up like that blueberry chick in the Willie Wonka flick!!"riderx said:
Carbon Fetish said:I hate narrow minded sport columnists. I guess Skip forgot Lance was one of the top triathletes in the world but those are just minor details
Well most narrow minded sport columnists have never participated in any competition harder than spanking their monkeys, so their opinions are bound to be biased.
But he did another tour after that.pnj said:
Not exactly an excuse for porking up.
Maybe hating is fattening.
That would explain it.
If he were any kind of man, he would have done the last 5 stages on a pee-wee herman beach cruiser......
MMike said:
Now that would be funny....
Uh, Greg Lemond implied that Lance has to be on something because no way he could be this successful without doping.Jeremy R said:But he did another tour after that.
Not exactly an excuse for porking up.
Maybe hating is fattening.
That would explain it.
"If [Armstrong's] clean, it's the greatest comeback. And if he's not, then it's the greatest fraud," LeMond said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=1841300
On the other hand, Lance seems to find enemies everywhere.
sanjuro said:
Lance is the most drug tested athlete in history...It's just inconceivable he wouldn't have been caught. They even surprise tested him a day after the official TDF drug test.
who is this Iverson character? baseball playa? football playa?
Bayless was an idiot when he worked for the San Jose Mercury and KNBR (his last job before ESPN)
He was an idiot when he worked for the Dallas Morning.
He was an idiot when he worked for the Chicago Sun.
He was an idiot when he worked for the Dallas Morning.
He was an idiot when he worked for the Chicago Sun.
dh girlie said:
He dribbles. Apparently walking up and down a court dribbling a ball for 30 minutes is so much more demanding than riding a couple of thousand miles..
Basketball. And I have to say, b-ball players are also amazing athletes. They need incredible endurance, strength, hand-eye coordination, and skills that can only come from years of practice. I don't care for pro ball at all - I have no taste for the bling - but still, much respect.dh girlie said:
Don't get drawn down to Bayless' level. Basketball is hard. If you think all they do is "walk" for 30 minutes, you are wrong. Try stepping into a local playground game and see how long you last.Reactor said:
The intercomparison of accomplishments or relative talents in different disciplines is pretty meaningless. Bob Ford of the Philadelphia Inquirer put it very well...
"Comparing Armstrong's accomplishments with those of other athletes is always a difficult business because his sport of road racing on a bicycle is unique, and because his particular story won't be replicated....
...Is his seven victories in the greatest bike race in the world bigger than 755 home runs for Hank Aaron or 197 touchdown catches for Jerry Rice? More impressive than 894 goals for Wayne Gretzky or 11 championships for Bill Russell? Silly to even ask, really. Does a shark swim better than a leopard runs?"
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002400380_tourcomment25.html
"Comparing Armstrong's accomplishments with those of other athletes is always a difficult business because his sport of road racing on a bicycle is unique, and because his particular story won't be replicated....
...Is his seven victories in the greatest bike race in the world bigger than 755 home runs for Hank Aaron or 197 touchdown catches for Jerry Rice? More impressive than 894 goals for Wayne Gretzky or 11 championships for Bill Russell? Silly to even ask, really. Does a shark swim better than a leopard runs?"
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002400380_tourcomment25.html
Reactor said:
Ohhh..basketball player...i don't pay too much attention to TEAM sports cuz there is no I in TEAM and it's always about me...
Actually...I give props to basket, baseball and football players and all other athletes alike...it's not about who is the best athlete overall...how the hell are you gonna compare apples to oranges? I'm sure Lance couldn't kick ass on a basketball court no more than this Iverson fellow could pedal through the Pyrrenese (sp?) mtns...I don't understand why every year everyone argues this point...I bet I could out bike and out snowboard just about any football or basketball player, but I certainly could not take a hit from a 300 pound dude or do some smokin fancy slam dunk...GAWD! There is so much HATE in the world...
