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Laptop with flash memory hard drive

binary visions

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Theoretically cool, but the current write cycle limitations on flash drives render it a silly investment. For inexpensive, smaller cards and uses like cameras and portable devices, the write cycle limits don't get hit very quickly. On a laptop.... well, the Windows swap file by itself would probably wear the thing out.

Mainstream solid-state drives are coming... but not soon.
 

pixelninja

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binary visions said:
Theoretically cool, but the current write cycle limitations on flash drives render it a silly investment. For inexpensive, smaller cards and uses like cameras and portable devices, the write cycle limits don't get hit very quickly. On a laptop.... well, the Windows swap file by itself would probably wear the thing out.

Mainstream solid-state drives are coming... but not soon.
Could you explain the write cycle limitations?
 

binary visions

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pixelninja said:
Could you explain the write cycle limitations?
A sector of flash memory can only be written to and erased a certain number of times before it will no longer accept a write.

Some nice firmware will actually keep a map of how many times each sector has been written and erased and will spread the write/re-writes out over the entire drive (so some sectors don't get more activity than others). That's a good solution, but swap file activity is pretty intense, not to mention things like temp files that are constantly getting written and deleted.
 

Westy

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It would be nice to have a hybrid system. Have the OS and other "long Term" system files loaded onto flash. Use a HDD for areas that need a lot of write counts.
 

binary visions

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pixelninja said:
any idea on what the max number is?
For decent consumer flash, it's generally estimated that they'll take a million read/writes before quitting. That's pretty variable, of course.

A hybrid system would be fine, but part of goal is reducing the fragility of laptops, as well as reducing power consumption. A hybrid system would still consume a lot of power (since you have the platter drive), and you still have the risk of drive failure.