Lasik or other vision improvement service?

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  1. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    I've had several people tell me good things about http://www.2020institute.com/ -- has anyone heard anything about them?

    Also, is Lasik the best procedure or is there something else out there to consider?

    I have a consultation appointment this Saturday, so any feedback before then would be appreciated! Thanks!
     

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  2. Westy

    Westy the teste

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    I just squint and leave my fly open. It lets me use my penis like a bug uses it's antennae. Luckily I am farsighted.
     
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    The surgery itself has worked wonders for my mom and dad. They each had it done a few years back by whoever does a lot of the players on the Giants, 49ers, etc. They said for the 24 hour period after the surgery, it felt like they had Taco Bell Fire sauce poured into their eyes. After that, it was nothing... unless you count having to wear goofy goggles to bed so that you don't rub your eye in your sleep and lift the flap of tissue up.

    I'm not too sure about the 2020Institute, but I know that the lasek surgery in general has worked wonders for my parents. My mom still wears glasses when reading, but otherwise she's says her eyesight is leaps and bounds better than it was before.
     
  4. syadasti

    syadasti i heart mac

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    What kind of vision problem you have dictates what procedure is appropriate.

    Make sure you choose a place with a good doc with the latest equipment and techniques.

    I got Lasik 3-4 years ago - back then the better places had the newer all laser lasik - they precisely cut the eye flap with one laser before they use another to reshape your eye. Before that they used use a mechanical device to cut the flap.
     
  5. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    yeah, the whole cutting my eye is a little bizarre.
     
  6. BurlyShirley

    BurlyShirley Rex Grossman Will Rise Again

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    Man I dont know...ever since I got HDTV, I have come to the realization that Chris Collinsworth is much uglier than originally suspected. Bad vision could be a blessing if you've never seen your significant other, or other loved ones with perfect clarity.
     
  7. jbrunton

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    I just had Lasik sugery less than two weeks ago. The only thing that is kind of a pain is the constant dry eyes. According to the doctor this should only last for the first two to three weeks. What is so amazing is that at the post-op the next morning I was seeing 20/15. My astigmatism was so bad though, that I had to have another procedure three months earlier to correct most of that.
     
  8. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    thanks for the feedback!

    I have dry eyes, but am not sure if that's natural or due to the contact lenses.
     
  9. manimal

    manimal Ociffer Tackleberry

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    my brother performed my lasik about 2 years ago. 'twas a simple procedure and i didn't experience the "taco bell fire sauce in my eyes" feeling. i went from a terrible astigmatism (20/400) to (20/20). i had the dry eyes for about 2 months but the supplied eye drops do the trip. it is AMAZING going from glasses all my life to perfect vision over a weekend. i highly recommend it...especially if your brother is an opthomalogist and will do it for free :D
     
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    I had the worst time with dry eyes with contacts. After the procedure just make sure that you stick to the prescribed drops. The last thing that you want after spending 5K on your eyes is an infection.
     
  11. jimmydean

    jimmydean The Official Meat of Ridemonkey

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    My brother decided to have his eyes done a few years ago. He did a ton of research and ended up going to Stanford Eye Center because they were supposed to be the best in the world at it.

    Long story short, they had an oops. They did have an associate center repair it for free and he now has eye care free for life, but he also has a slight kaleidoscope type spot in his upper left eye.

    I laughed because it cost him a small fortune to go there rather than some strip mall with a coupon. :rofl:

    <edit> http://med.stanford.edu/ophthalmology/laser/
     
  12. Echo

    Echo crooked smile

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    I got Lasik about 6 years ago, best money I've ever spent in my life, period. I can see better than I ever could with glasses. Trying to list all the awesomeness of Lasik would exceed the character limit for posting.

    Oh, and I got it done in Canada (Niagara Falls) for under $900.
     
  13. Serial Midget

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    My dad is one example of lasik gone bad - his eyes never improved and now he has horrible vision.

    Nothing about the procedure went wrong - he was just one of the small percentage of persons lasik can't do anything for.

    My glasses do not bother me enough to risk ruining what vision I do have.
     
  14. OGRipper

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    Amen. I only see out of one eye, and I need a -11 prescription for the one that works. Still way better than darkness.

    I know lots of people that have had good luck with lasik but it's not really an option for me, just no room for error.
     
  15. Nick

    Nick My name is Nick

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    I had LASIK done 2.5 years ago, and like Echo said it was the best money I've ever spent.

    I was pretty much useless with out correction (glasses or contacts) and I went from having a 16" range of vision before the surgery to about 20/20 the next day with a lot of haze settling on 20/15 in about 4-6 weeks. There was the dry eye thing, and the constant irrational fear that I'd rub my eyes in my sleep and blind myself.

    My procedure involved the cutting of the flap, then the laser. I had the option for full laser but as I understood it the healing process was longer (burning away the protective layer vs. moving it over 3/4 of an inch) and the risk of infection increased, I opted for the low-tech method.

    I can still remember the sensation of the high speed rotating razor wheelie thing cutting into my numbed eye and thinking "this is dumb".

    Best $$$ I ever spent.
     
  16. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    FOCK YOU!

    I'll probably think of you when that's happening and start laughing. Thanks a lot jackass.


    :D
     
  17. syadasti

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    You must be thinking of another procedure as all laser lasik does not involve burning the front of your eye off. The laser is more precise and has a lower risk of flap complications and infections compared to mechanical flap creation. They use a different kind of laser and cut a flap they fold back for the other laser to reshape your eye just like they do with a mechanical blade.

     
  18. Sandwich

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    PRK is what the military typically uses and that burns the front of your lens off.

    Lasik involves the flap/laser method. It heals faster, i think, but PRK has less room for error. It's also costlier.

    My dad had Lasik done in canada several years ago. It works for him, he had very poor vision and now he doesn't wear glasses. He gets some auras and stuff at night, and his close up vision is very poor, but it's better than the coke bottles he had. They said he can go back to fix the problems from before, but I think he's too cheap to do that.
     
  19. syadasti

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    Looks like NASA and the military are doing Lasik now:

     
  20. JohnE

    JohnE filthy rascist

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    I am getting a PRK done soon on the AFs dime. Stand by for updates...
     
  21. LordOpie

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    So my wife pushed me into it. I get it done in 11 days. They do all sorts of measurement stuffs in six days and they want me out of my contact lenses starting now.

    I hate glasses.

    I wanted to go for a long ride today, but think my glasses would annoy me in addition to not having tinted lenses.
     
  22. N8 v2.0

    N8 v2.0 Not the sharpest tool in the shed

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    cost for the no-glasses goodness?
     
  23. JohnE

    JohnE filthy rascist

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    11 days? WTF? I had to go 3 months sans contacts...and I am still waiting! Hope to get them done in March...
     
  24. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    too much. $4000! I almost walked out, but my wife convinced me otherwise.

    I could've had the $2000 procedure, but that was the older one without eye mapping and lasers.
    You're in the military, right? Military has higher standards or something?
     
  25. JohnE

    JohnE filthy rascist

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    Yeah, Air Force. I dont know about the standards. But I have been wearing contacts for a long time, and I did tend to wear them too long (12-18 hour days) so maybe my eyes were really jacked up from them?
     
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    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    hmm, not sure. I've worn contacts full-time for about 10 years now, all day from wake to sleep.
     
  27. Nick

    Nick My name is Nick

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    Wow, $4k??
    My procedure was the 'good' choice with mapping etc., and it cost me a $1,000. Come to think of it, I was sort of blown away at the delta of pricing I heard about from other patients in the office. One person paid $2k per eye, yet a girl who was on her husband's union insurance paid one flat $40 co-payment.

    Are you getting your membrane cut or the full laser surgery?

    Either way, you're going to be stoked afterwards! Remember, immediate results are not the same as what you can expect after a few weeks/month or two.
     
  28. MikeD

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    I got a PRK from the Navy (not that I was in the Navy, but they performed it). And all I remember thinking is that as they clockwork-oranged me up for the surgery was that there was a potentially low-grade doctor behind that laser whom I could never sue if he jacked anything up.

    And yes, it was hellish the next day. Percoset and eyes closed in bed, followed by another day of squinting and misery.

    Luckily, it worked pretty well. I was only 22, though, and my left eye worsened again (slightly) in recent years, but that wasn't anything to do with the surgery. I still don't wear glasses or a contact unless I'm doing something critical.

    And hey, it was free... Good luck, Opie.
     
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    Agreed. Total fashion disaster.
     
  30. LordOpie

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    I get sun headaches, so I needed tinted. And you remember how sunny it is here :)

    More sun days than anywhere else in the US, I think?
     
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    How about CK?
     
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    I have often thought about lasik for my wife but I've heard one horror story to many...I just wish they would develop a procedure for colorblindness...D
     
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    To induce it?
     
  35. Spunger

    Spunger Git yer dumb questions here

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    My girlfriend/future wife had it done a couple of years ago. I watched it all in the room with her and such and it worked out great for her. She had to wear contacts/glasses before everything. Now you would never know that she had it done. I think she went from something like 20/200 in her vision to 20/20.

    I think the coolest part of it was after the 12 hours of not being able to open your eyes, she opened them and could watch TV that night and was amazed. I know she was scared though because it's your vision. What if you couldn't see again? Thank god though it seems like it's a pretty fool-proof system they do.

    Plus there's nothing like seeing a twitching eye ball on a big plasma TV in the room. It's kinda gross but that's how you can watch and the helpers watch.

    If I were blind (well had trouble seeing) I'd get it done. At this point she might need to go for a "tune up" in a few years as that was expected, but otherwise everything is good.
     
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    Had it done about 3 years ago. Custom Lasik that takes the topo pic of your eye and goes from there. It is a little more, but supposedly better. Like manimal I have a brother in the business that helped out. I was looking at this since it came out as RK. Really glad I waited the few years it took to advance the surgury to where it is now. I know guys that didn't and are not happy now with what they got then.
    Never had any issues with the possible downsides ie.. dry eyes, halos at night, nothing. My brother checked me the following day and was 20/15. Nothing but good from my experience.
     
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    So I had LASIK yesterday morning. I was toast most of the day, but we had a baby class last night, so I had to tough it out, came home and went back to bed. If I had someone at work to cover me, I'd have taken today off as well.

    My vision is about 20/30 and they say it'll improve over the next few weeks as my eyes heal. Left eye is slight better vision and NO irritations! The right eye tho has a dry spot that feels like a torn contact lens. They say that'll clear up as well and to just use the lubricating drops liberally.

    The other two drops are antibiotics and anti-inflmatory... they both drain from the back of my eye into my sinus down into my throat and they both taste fockin' nasty!

    *pause to put more drops in*

    PROCEDURE itself...

    It took seven minutes. They say that's almost twice as long typical. The equipment and tools were really wierd, like some Star Wars torture looking thing, tho I felt no pain. I'll spare the unpleasant details and elaborate on two really wierd things...

    There was a moment where I went completely blind for about a second and then the whole universe opened up to me. Imaging looking out at the stars from the top of the tallest mountain with no clouds, no light polution. Really zen experience.

    The other was a moment of massive chain-lightning, very cool.

    Strange thing is, both of these only happened in my left eye and that's the one that's doing so well. Go figure.
     
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    This is pretty timely for me. I'm 35 and got my first pair of glasses when I was 5. I started wearing contacts 20 years ago. In the last several months, my eyes just decided to reject the lenses. My glasses are like coke bottles. Besides glasses just suck all the way around. I can hardly walk around without my glasses on...

    Anyway, I'm getting Lasik in 8 days in Buffalo. I thought about going over the border, but don't like the idea of finding the cheapest way to fix my eyes.

    I can't wait. Mine is $1500.00 per eye without the 15% VSP discount.
     
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    great LordOpie... glad it worked out!
     
  40. LordOpie

    LordOpie MOTHER HEN

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    Thanks!