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  1. Sandwich

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    I need a new axe. More specifically, I need a maul for splitting wood, but I'd like to buy a felling axe as well, or a single tool that can do both. I have a chainsaw for cutting up trees that fell on my property, but I need to split the cut logs now. I also need a smaller axe that can finish felling a tree after a few cuts with the saw. I'm willing to spend some money to get a high quality, long lasting axe, as I'd like to buy it once and be done with it forever.

    What's good out there? Council Tool? Estwing? Is there no point in spending money on an american product and just get a fiskars mush-metal fiberglass jobber? I'll be chopping mostly pine, and would like to buy the kind of tool that I give to my kids when I die or move. We keep losing trees to windstorms, so I find it likely that I will need these tools again and again. I have gotten a ton of use out of my chainsaw once my wife let me buy one.

    I could do these two:
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Fiskars-X27-6-3-lbs-36-in-Super-Splitting-Axe-78846935/202681680
    https://www.homedepot.com/p/Estwing-26-in-Camper-s-Nylon-Vinyl-Grip-Handle-Axe-E45A/100351735

    Or something more fancy:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004G7SJV...olid=2V25GVFU9BPOZ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

    Or something I can post about on instagram:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015EULD6...olid=2V25GVFU9BPOZ&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

    What's good?
     

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    i was looking into this same thing earlier in the winter. iirc, in general people were surprisingly pleased with the fiskars one, esp. for the price.
     
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    The long handle Fiskar axe hits and performs like a maul. I use the shorter handle one for splitting hard wood and it is a great axe. I have used the long handle'd one and would buy it over the short for just splitting. If you wanna chop and split, shorter handle is easier to use.
     
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    Im looking to upgrade our maul too, so I am listening.
     
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    You're going to need a quiver. Get a nice axe for the general felling and splitting.

    Then get a sledgehammer and some wedges for splitting shit like willow. :mad:
     
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    i did a bunch of research on this back in the fall and i wound up with the fiskars x27. its honestly the best bang for the buck out there. nothing against gransfors, etc, but those are dentist axes IMO. i have been SUPER happy with how it works.

    also, the x27 is what's considered a hybrid axe. it falls in between a splitting axe and a maul in terms of weight and shape of the head. it is NOT a felling axe. Besides, if you have a chainsaw why do you need a felling axe? i mean, unless you really want a felling axe, but the x27 isn't it.

    also, i received the fiskars splitting maul as an xmas present. before receiving it, i thought i didn't need it. after using it, i'm kicking myself for not getting it sooner. if you are planning on splitting logs greater than say, 10-12" in diameter it works notably better than the x27.
     
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    also, regardless of what axe you wind up getting, buy yourself a lanksy puck, some honing oil, and learn how to use it.
     
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    Upgraded Maul.

     
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    disclaimer: i'm using it to split hardwood, not soft (like pine)
     
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    Maybe I need some education here by if you are just splitting wood why not use a splitting maul?
     
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    they're heavy and therefore tiring.
     
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    Oh......how much wood are you splitting?
     
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    lots



     
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    Is that Ash borer beetle damage I see?
     
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    good eye. that's why we had them all taken out unfortunately.
     
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    It makes me sad. They are really bad here. I lost a few huge trees in the spring of last year. They are in EVERY Ash tree up here.
     
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    we had 13 ash trees in my yard. most were 30-40 years old at least. it's definitely sad.
     
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    Well, I had the intention of getting both a splitting maul (that's what I thought the fiskars was, but council tool makes some as well) and a felling/general purpose axe. It sounds like the fiskars x27 is the real deal, and realistically I'm using it to split pine so it's not like I need Paul Bunyan's shit. I definitely don't want a dentist axe but I also don't want to have to replace whatever I buy in a year.

    I guess I thought you needed an axe to finish a cut to fell a tree, but it sounds like you can do it with just a wedge and saw, so maybe all I need is a 6lb maul and wedge, and I'm good to go.
     
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    Thats all I use. Well a Maul and a sledge for when it gets stuck, or I just borrow my neighbor's splitter. ;)
     
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    it sounds like the x27 will work well for you since its just pine. what's the max diameter of what you're splitting?

    you can fell a tree with just a chainsaw. basically cut a notch in one side, flat on the bottom angled on the top. the inner cut on the notch will be generally perpendicular to the direction you are felling. then cut in above the flat plane from the back side up 1-2" (depending on trunk diameter) and it will eventually go on its own.

     
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    Yeah, most people say to jam a wedge in there with a sledge (or maybe the backside of the x27) to give your saw some space and reduce the possibility of pinching. Sounds like a good idea. I guess I thought you make those cuts then use an axe to weaken the hinge until it falls...that's wrong.


    Anyways, with the x27- is 36" too big? They have an x25 too, which is 28". I think you and I are about the same height.
     
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    The expensive german steel head, swiss wood handle & american craft leather sheath are for hanging on the wall.
     
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    TN Hey baby, want a hot dog?

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    Have any good beta on chainsaws?
     
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    stihl unless you are looking at something professional grade. husqy's low end stuff is crap but their high end stuff is good.

    edit: i have the stihl MS290 which is discontinued. current comparable models are MS271 or MS291.
     
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    i have the 36". part of how it works is that the handle is hollow, so there's more of a weight bias at the head. the way it works as well as it does is that you wanna swing it fast. it was a little longer than my old (cheap) axe, only a few inches, it was noticeable at first but i quickly adjusted.

    also the back of the head on the x27 is not designed for hammering. the back of the maul head is.
     
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    my statement shouldn't be interpreted that stihl's pro grade stuff isn't good, just that if you are looking at that class of chainsaw, there are other options out there worth considering as well. below the $400-$500 price range i wouldn't recommend anything other than stihl.

    disclaimer: i do not and have not owned anything that would be considered pro grade. this is based on info I've picked up from people who *are* employed as arborists.
     
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    i have an older stihl farm boss (maybe the 290?) - it’s been great.
     
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    yea, it kicks ass. although i did just have to unclog my oilomatic. managed to get some dirt in the in the tank, but that was user error.
     
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    I like Jonsereds for a chain saw myself...

    There ain't one way to cut to fell a tree. Depends on what you're trying to do and what the tree wants to do. There are a number of interesting ways to kill or maim yourself and others.

    I have a Fiskars splitting axe and like it a lot.
     
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    Yes, theres lots of factors to consider, ground slope, tree lean, obstacles, etc. That was a general how to that I could post while in a meeting.
     
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    I have an echo 20" bar from the depot that got great reviews and I like it quite a bit. Starts easy and is easy to use and adjust.
     
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    The shorter the bar the easier to hit yourself in the face.
     
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    Pretty badass, made in the USA splitting axe. Uses cams to help push the wood apart so it doesn’t wedge easily.

    Otherwise...

    Efficient way: log splitter
    Budget way: Fiskars
    Splurge way: Gransfors Bruk
     
  37. AngryMetalsmith

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    Get a good tool, don't fuck around.

     
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    Let's cut to the chase and get an answer, and no split decisions. We don't want to do a hatchet job for sandwich on his birthday.

    On that note, if anyone lives near a maul, they should get him a present.
     
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    Would anybody actually hit that against a tree'?