lenzer-freakin-heide!
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Road is more popular because it's old. That's all. Most people still don't watch road. They simply understand people watch it because it's on linear TV and they've seen it while flicking channels
There are only select countries with big road viewing numbers but those numbers are still not high enough to take the feed off eurosport and into big f2a channels
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Weirdly USA also produces the best storytellers on earth and has created the best system for telling visual stories. A country of extremes
it wasn't my argument.
I haven't brought a single irellivant sport into the discussion. That's you and Avy's territory.
Goan stop it, eh?
Oh. RLY?
I mustn't be sat here watching the evening TDF highlights show right now on UK terrestrial TV at all then.
Weird.
A quick google says the TDF gets 1 billion TV viewers worldwide each year.
it doesn't matter if they're flicking past it or just tuning in to see pretty European scenery. No one is doing either of those things when DH WCs are shown.
I get that you prefer DH but please stop talking pish
You are joking, right?
add shooting guns to nordic and you get a literally stadium filler sport called biathlon
veltins arena, in the middle of the ruhr metropolitan area, no mountains or snow whatsoever around
they needed to transport snow from the alpes on lorries to make the event happen
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I swear Gary,you try to make me look a idiot,you do not read my post,you take little bit’s and get agro.
“No Avy,I don’t need to help you look like a idiot,you are doing fine all by you’re self” Taken.
I ask‘ed you,How is Golf a better sport?
No Reply. Then you’re above statement. Not to me.
Only the above statement should have said “more lucrative”, not “Better”, you numb cunt.
I already know this,but somehow you think I cannot grasp it? So you rip me and said Stupid Shit.
Put up a Picture of Gwin’s House and sayin I’m in the bushes. Like I don’t know that is not there Only Salary?
You Feel Good?
I thought most of us here are in our 50’s. Makin me try to explain simple shit to you that you rip me on? Waste of fucking time. I don’t mind a good argument,as long as there is respect. I don’t like Bullies.
Avy
Here in Denmark road cycling is huge! In the news outlets the war in the Ukraine has been replaced by "Five experts analyse the chances of Vingegaard against Pogacar"-type articles
Funnily enough are some of the best cyclists from here, although there are no mountains. Not only on the road but also on the MTB side of things (although XC): Degn, Langvaad, Djernis, Andreassen, Bohé...
Ok.
Golf as a sport vs DH mtb
- Has been around for centuries and has an absolutely vast history
- Is properly structured world wide from grassroots competition to the highest tier
- is accessible to a far wider audience (both in participation and viewing)
- can be played in pretty much every country by people of ALL backgrounds, social and economic classes
- is also a sport that takes massive amounts of skill to master
- As a "sport" has an infinitely larger fan base and higher participant numbers to ALL cycle sport categories combined
Swinging a stick to connect and drive a little white ball 450metres to come to a stop at a little flag barely visible blowing around in the distance is actually a lot more difficult than riding down any WC DH track.
Now. it's your turn. instead of calling me a "cunt" and at the same time crying that your 50yr old ass is being bullied how about telling me just how DH mtb is a "better" Sport?
You should probably first read up on what "sport" actually is
gimme a break... you really think golf is more accessible than riding bikes?! how exquisitely colonial of you... there's echos of "let them eat cake" in that...
I suppose poker, snooker, and chess all fall under the definition of sport by that definition... why bother having different words if they all mean the same thing... (sport, activity, leisure, game)...
Aye.
one club a few golf balls and the closest open grassy area is how almost every Scottish laddie started
almost as accessible as football. OG Scottish football. not the stupid american version that requires loads of stupid expensive equipment.
Hmm. Ignoring the whole golf talk in a DH forum, this seems off.
Swinging a stick at a ball isn't that hard. Half the time there is copious amounts of beer involved too. And the balls usually always ends up in the hole.
Compare that to navigating down some DH tracks, which to some can be downright scary, takes some actual earned skills. You can't just hop on a bike and ride down some of those trails if all you've ever done is riding on a golf course path. I mean, you could, but it probably won't end well.
My entire point here was simply to point out how fucking stupid it was of Avy and Norbar bringing irrelevant but far more established and successful sports into the discussion.
in germany you need to have a certain handicap to be even allowed to play on a course, also expensive. rich people‘s sport. don‘t confuse your hinterwäldler highlands with the real world where more than 10 people per square km live
in most states in germany you do, or you gonna hit other people/their property
We grew up with random clubs from a second hand store, my contribution was an ancient 7-iron. Playing in the local park where particular trees were the target.
Anyway. Miriam and Jean Girard both monstered that DH course.
"The Tour de France is the most prestigious cycling race in the world, reaching more than 15 million spectators and over 1 billion television viewers from all over the world."
How else do you hunt seals?
On-topic this level of perfection is inhuman
Yeah man, he just makes it look easy.
I think he was the only rider I noticed to go into the grass in the first turn. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention.
Anyways, as someone else said, very precise. The next French Alien? He doesn't quite have the vocab of Nico, but with skills like that, who cares?
I think he was the only rider I noticed to go into the grass in the first turn. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention.
Anyways, as someone else said, very precise. The next French Alien? He doesn't quite have the vocab of Nico, but with skills like that, who cares?
There's a pic of him on Insta after the race with his shirt off and the dude is friggen jacked. Decent bit bigger than a lot of the other top riders we've seen the past few years. I don't think the bike has a choice but to do what he tells it to do.
Remember that year Gee turned up looking like the English Bruce Lee?
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did he gained that on a scottish golf course while being on a strict haggis diet?Remember that year Gee turned up looking like the English Bruce Lee?
Rachel Atherton on Instagram: "Nearly race time again!! @gee_atherton @taylorvernon67 @athertonracing"
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I mean I'm not debating TDF is watched.
Though 1 bilion number is BS. Sorry but it is. I know my TV stats. Nothing on earth gets 1 billion viewers. Nothing on earth gets even close. It's them being creative with numbers over the years and counting some people many times over.
Generally TDF and Giro and Vuelta are big in big road countries but that's that. Outside of those countries thare are not as big events. I can literally check in some select countries for data if needed but generally if they did as well globally they'd never land on Eurosport.
Naah. I didn't bring them. I talked about them after you talked about them and made the claim they are "better sports". I mean that statement literally made me make a Tucker Carlson face.
So
1. History doesn't make a sport great. It only means it was started earlier
2. This doesn't mean the sport is great but well organized
3. It's not accessible to a far wider audience. Not everyone is living on that damp island of yours. A lot of the world is not well suited for grass (hear that americans and your southern state lawns?)
4. Can't be played in every country without massive environmental costs.
5. Yea it takes skill to master but are we defining sports by difficulty now? Because if that's the case some really stupid obscure sports become best sports.
6. AS a sport it also has a history of racism and classism.
7. No sport is "better" that whole statement is dumb AF. Golf sucks tho because outside of UK it's not available to everyone. It screws up the environment and the culture has also some really really bad history that you conviniently ommit.
8. Claiming a sport is better because it's more popular is like claiming Jersey Shore is better than Schindlers list because it's more popular. Gary I get that you like to be a contrarian but jesus fucking christ.
Seriously you like Golf? Great. I even like watching it but this whole hole ball stick tirade is silly.
"My entire point here was simply to point out how fucking stupid it was of Avy and Norbar bringing irrelevant but far more established and successful sports into the discussion. "
Avy brought up Tennis and Golf
You brought up road racing, XC racing and MMA (and possibly something else but I can't be arsed to go back and look)
No. You 100% did.
Avy brought up Tennis and Golf
You brought up road racing, XC racing and MMA (and possibly something else but I can't be arsed to go back and look)
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No. I don't particularly like Golf at all. I actually said so in the first instance replying to Avy.
Read it again... carefully
and in many ways it is. it's indisputably a way more successful and infinitely longer standing sport for starters.
I'm not sure why you're losing your shit over it.
Do you own DH mountainbiking™ or something?
are you actually Chad?
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