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sethimus

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Feb 5, 2006
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not in Whistler anymore :/
Not having protected people seems like a bad idea but maybe it will lead to the big teams pressuring everyone to end the semis. Ffs. Just don't televise the people outside of the top30. Freecaster and RB didn't show everyone. Do full 60. Stop making it complicated. Trying to make it fit for Eurosport is silly
i can watch juniors, women and men in one go right now. i don‘t want to wait for the next broadcast just so more people can ride down in a finale
 

Gary

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Oh. would you look at that ? Who’s pissed now ?

Loic saying he’d like a job like Rhuirdh’s at WCs after he retires from racing so long as he didn’t have to deal with riders complaints was also quite funny.
Silly Loic must’ve forgotten he wont have to since his *riders union* was established and is now doing such a great job.
 

norbar

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Oh. would you look at that ? Who’s pissed now ?

Loic saying he’d like a job like Rhuirdh’s at WCs after he retires from racing so long as he didn’t have to deal with riders complaints was also quite funny.
Silly Loic must’ve forgotten he wont have to since his *riders union* was established and is now doing such a great job.
Was it established? I'm genuinely asking since it seems slopestyle guys are better organized in fighting for shit they want.
 

Gary

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I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting. I can see how two kids who found themselves becoming successful, famous, very well paid world travelling professional mountain bike racers before each of them had even even had a proper job might have found the reality of setting up and running their “union” to be a tad less attractive proposition than their big off season ideas.

Not sure slopestyle guys are that much better organised, just a smaller closer knit community more used to fending for themselves. And many won’t be pinned down or contractually bound to participate in particular series/events in the first place. Kinda more of a privateer type of lifestyle . And I doubt the Big S boys union would have even put all that much thought into the true plight of privateers.
 
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Westy

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I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting. I can see how two kids who found themselves becoming successful, famous, very well paid world travelling professional mountain bike racers before each of them had even even had a proper job might have found the reality of setting up and running their “union” to be a tad less attractive proposition than their big off season ideas.

Not sure slopestyle guys are that much better organised, just a smaller closer knit community more used to fending for themselves. And many won’t be pinned down or contractually bound to participate in particular series/events in the first place. Kinda more of a privateer type of lifestyle . And I doubt the Big S boys union would have even put all that much thought into the true plight of privateers.
I know nothing about slope style but I assume the economics are completely different. Those guys sell videos and try to win contests. Few are dumb enough to think that could land a double backflip if they have the same bike as a pro rider. But people will buy dumb shit after a pro downhiller wins a race with no chain. Racers have to race
 

Gary

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DH racing main brand sponsorship money isn’t really spent on their DH teams/riders expecting a load of DH bike sales either. As for parts. If your favourite backflip guy rides with Diety bars you’re probably going to think they’ll be a safe bet for your local jumps. Also remember slopestyle riders ride DJ hardtails. Which are actually affordable en mass.
 

canadmos

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Just rewatched Wyn's trackwalk video and Bruni raises a good idea for qualifying.

1 - have qualifying, top 30 go straight to the finals (plus protected riders (if that still exists))
2 - qualifying is then changed into a last chance type of race - top 10 riders get to join the finals, but don't go on TV. Win win for both sides.
3 - beer
 

trib

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Just rewatched Wyn's trackwalk video and Bruni raises a good idea for qualifying.

1 - have qualifying, top 30 go straight to the finals (plus protected riders (if that still exists))
2 - qualifying is then changed into a last chance type of race - top 10 riders get to join the finals, but don't go on TV. Win win for both sides.
3 - beer
Surely thats setting the potential for the winning run to not be televised? Which seems shortsighted.
 

canadmos

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Surely thats setting the potential for the winning run to not be televised? Which seems shortsighted.
Perhaps, but how often do the 30+ ranked riders win?

Also still gives them a chance at SOME coverage and more importantly, points for being protected.

Also better than everyone below top 20nor something getting booted. Especially if the protected status goes away, like what Bruni Also mentions.
 

norbar

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I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting. I can see how two kids who found themselves becoming successful, famous, very well paid world travelling professional mountain bike racers before each of them had even even had a proper job might have found the reality of setting up and running their “union” to be a tad less attractive proposition than their big off season ideas.

Not sure slopestyle guys are that much better organised, just a smaller closer knit community more used to fending for themselves. And many won’t be pinned down or contractually bound to participate in particular series/events in the first place. Kinda more of a privateer type of lifestyle . And I doubt the Big S boys union would have even put all that much thought into the true plight of privateers.
I think the bolded part may be key. If part of the union are people who always had a fuckton of support first from parents and then factory teams then there might be lesser awareness of the problems. As you say. Privater life is a bit different. I traveled to some events with some slope guys and yeah. Even if you get paid good money you don't get a team bus. You take the wrong frame to a comp? Well that's your problem.
 

norbar

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Surely thats setting the potential for the winning run to not be televised? Which seems shortsighted.
They record all runs and still show the fastest guy from the non televised people. Easy solution to that problem and exactly what was done in the past
 
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Asa doing what he does.

Perhaps, but how often do the 30+ ranked riders win?

Also still gives them a chance at SOME coverage and more importantly, points for being protected.

Also better than everyone below top 20nor something getting booted. Especially if the protected status goes away, like what Bruni Also mentions.
Last year at Snowshoe Oisin won with plate #43, Ethan Craik 8th with plate #42.
 

Avy

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TBow in 9th,no Team under his name. What is he riding? I thought he was in trouble with the Law?

Avy
 

toodles

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TBow in 9th,no Team under his name. What is he riding? I thought he was in trouble with the Law?

Avy
privateer program cos the teams noped him. Riding his Canyon bike for now. Haven't heard if the legal thing progressed.
 

Avy

Turbo Monkey
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privateer program cos the teams noped him. Riding his Canyon bike for now. Haven't heard if the legal thing progressed.
Do we know who she is? Does he have a Wrench? Wyn ain’t talking to him it seems,as well as others.

Avy
 

Avy

Turbo Monkey
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Wyn talked to him, or someone interviewed him.

Who she is or even the details are probably none of our business.
I did not see anyone do an Interview. Would Love to see it.

I think you are a bit confused on his mis hap. When you are a Pro,getting paid monies you have a Contract. If you step outside that Contract,you have to Face the Music. Now I don’t know any details,but the Courts will. Not sure what you mean about our business? Is this matter upsetting you?

Avy
 

Westy

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I did not see anyone do an Interview. Would Love to see it.

I think you are a bit confused on his mis hap. When you are a Pro,getting paid monies you have a Contract. If you step outside that Contract,you have to Face the Music. Now I don’t know any details,but the Courts will. Not sure what you mean about our business? Is this matter upsetting you?

Avy

Potential victims have the right to not be talked about by dipshits on the internet.
 

Avy

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Potential victims have the right to not be talked about by dipshits on the internet.
I agree Westy. I was just wondering what the Fuck is going on?

He was cut.
I thought the Law was involved.
Did not think he would be racing until the matter was dealt with.
Hence my question to begin with.

Avy
 

Westy

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I agree Westy. I was just wondering what the Fuck is going on?

He was cut.
I thought the Law was involved.
Did not think he would be racing until the matter was dealt with.
Hence my question to begin with.

Avy
Whatever happened the legal system is still has decided he is free to do his thing but that does not mean sponsors want his name associated with theirs.
 

norbar

KESSLER PROBLEM. Just cause
Jun 7, 2007
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Didn't they hit during semis? Girls had some unusual results. This track is probably the worst to ride in the wet because the middle bikepark section means no one in their right mind would run spikes anyway. So everyone is risking it in the forest with mixed condition tires.
 

Gary

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Aug 27, 2002
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Just rewatched Wyn's trackwalk video and Bruni raises a good idea for qualifying.

1 - have qualifying, top 30 go straight to the finals (plus protected riders (if that still exists))
2 - qualifying is then changed into a last chance type of race - top 10 riders get to join the finals, but don't go on TV. Win win for both sides.
3 - beer
Or just scrap semi entirely and go back to 60 in finals televising the last 30 (beginning the stream with the current fastest run)
Yknow... Like it used to be. Worked perfectly well. And everyone was happy with.

Loic talks a lot of shit
 

sethimus

neu bizutch
Feb 5, 2006
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not in Whistler anymore :/
Or just scrap semi entirely and go back to 60 in finals televising the last 30 (beginning the stream with the current fastest run)
Yknow... Like it used to be. Worked perfectly well. And everyone was happy with.

Loic talks a lot of shit
but there would still be a break inbetween the live coverages and you need a whole day in front of the tv to see everything.or are you suggesting the juniors should not be shown anymore?
 

Gary

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A break is fine mate.

Watching Jnr Girls now on youtubes. Rach isn't bad at this with Josh