[slyfink]

I don't think it's "honor". For athletes sports is their job so in those sports where theoretically you can't compete with PEDs honor has nothing to do with it. You want to keep your job or you start doing something else.

I think this was the central argument in Tyler Hamilton's book "The Secret Race". I also think it's why Floyd Landis was so pissed off.

As for Amaury - he was relatively big pre injury. He had a lot of time to train given the covid stuff. It wasn't a short time and you can train while injured you just focus on training around the injury.

I could be wrong, but there's also the fact that he's still growing. As in, back in 2019 he was 23. So still pretty close to being a young lad. I seem to recall growing thicker as I aged too... (even if 23 was a really long time ago for me...)

 

[norbar]

I seem to recall growing thicker as I aged too...

You tell that to all the girls, don't ya?

Though honestly yeah. In my early 20s I was super skinny despite eating a ton and training a ton and now I have more muscle with less training so this could explain it.

 

[slyfink]

You tell that to all the girls, don't ya?

it's more of a TWSS sort of situation....

 

[Gary]

By "leaner" I meant more muscle definition. Not smaller.

 

[Gary]

I know timed training means nothing... But this battle is and has been epic all year.

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[toodles]

I know timed training means nothing... But this battle is and has been epic all year.

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Thats wild. Their splits are all over the place but in the end basically a tie. The Junior Men's rivalry this year has been one of the best competitions in the whole field for years.

 

[toodles]

No Brother,yoked up is thicker,which is exactly what I meant. He in no way was leaner when he came back. I thought it was a shoulder injury? Or Back? So when Norbar sais you can ”train” while injured,sure you can,just not that area. His Neck,Shoulder and Arms were thicker to me.

Ah if you look at pics of him riding in 2019 he was still pretty ripped. I don't think he's exploded in size any more than most dudes change at that age period.

Troy Brosnan did the same to an extent. Jackson Goldstone will probably add a bunch of mass too. A couple of years in Senior Men following the training regime the teams put them on will do that.

 

[William42]

I know timed training means nothing... But this battle is and has been epic all year.

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Throw in the fact that they've both been putting up times that would put them in top 5 elite mens on tracks that haven't seen significant changes over the course of the day, they're both going to be a threat for podiums and wins within the next few years I bet.

 

[buckoW]

Common sense? Do you follow cycling? Or tennis? Or distance running? Or sprinting?

More power to you if you want to believe in fairy tales. I didn't like having my bubble burst, either.

This one is for you @aaronjb
Please don’t burst my bubble, tho.

 

[aaronjb]

This one is for you @aaronjb
Please don’t burst my bubble, tho.

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Clean as a used diaper, especially at that age.

(I love that dude though)

 

[iRider]

This one is for you @aaronjb
Please don’t burst my bubble, tho.

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Breaking news: shady American suspected to be Nino's PED dealer. Disguising his illegal business by pretending to be a snowboard and bespoke bicycle frame builder, he use the income to finance his lavish lifestyle in Switzerland. Neighbor said: "I would have never expected this, he is such a nice guy and even helped me carry the groceries upstairs."