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LIE DOWN WITH STRIPPERS, WAKE UP WITH PLEAS
By Ann Coulter
Wed Apr 19, 8:06 PM ET


However the Duke lacrosse rape case turns out, one lesson that absolutely will not be learned is this: You can severely reduce your chances of having a false accusation of rape leveled against you if you don't hire strange women to come to your house and take their clothes off for money.

Also, you can severely reduce your chances of being raped if you do not go to strange men's houses and take your clothes off for money. (Does anyone else detect a common thread here?)

And if you are a girl in Aruba or New York City, among the best ways to avoid being the victim of a horrible crime is to not get drunk in public or go off in a car with men you just met. While we're on the subject of things every 5-year-old should know, I also recommend against dousing yourself in gasoline and striking a match.

Everyone makes mistakes, especially young people, but the outpouring of support for the victims and their families is obscuring what ought to be a flashing neon warning for potential future victims.

Whenever a gun is used in a crime, there are never-ending news stories about how dangerous guns are. But these girls go out alone, late at night, drunk off their butts, and there's nary a peep about the dangers of drunk women on their own in public. It's their "right."

Yes, of course no one "deserves" to die for a mistake. Or to be raped or falsely accused of rape for a mistake. I have always been unabashedly anti-murder, anti-rape and anti-false accusation -- and I don't care who knows about it!

But these statements would roll off the tongue more easily in a world that so much as tacitly acknowledged that all these messy turns of fate followed behavior that your mother could have told you was tacky.

Not very long ago, all the precursor behavior in these cases would have been recognized as vulgar -- whether or not anyone ended up dead, raped or falsely accused of rape. But in a nation of people in constant terror of being perceived as "judgmental," I'm not sure most people do recognize that anymore.

It shouldn't be necessary to point out that girls shouldn't be bar-hopping alone or taking their clothes off in front of strangers, and that young men shouldn't be hiring strippers. But we live in a world of Bill Clinton, Paris Hilton, Howard Stern, Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman," Democratic fund-raisers at the Playboy Mansion and tax deductions for entertaining clients at strip clubs.

This is an age in which the expression "girls gone wild" is becoming a redundancy. So even as the bodies pile up, I don't think the message about integrity is getting through.

The liberal charge of "hypocrisy" has so permeated the public consciousness that no one is willing to condemn any behavior anymore, no matter how seedy. The unstated rule is: If you've done it, you can't ever criticize it -- a standard that would seem to repudiate the good works of the Rev. Franklin Graham, Malcolm X, Whittaker Chambers and St. Paul, among others.

Every woman who has had an abortion feels compelled to defend abortion for all women; every man who's ever been at a party with strippers thinks he has to defend all men who watch strippers; and every Democrat who voted for Bill Clinton feels the need to defend duplicity, adultery, lying about adultery, sexual harassment, rape, perjury, obstruction of justice, kicking the can of global Islamo-fascism down the road for eight years and so on.

This is crazy. (I can say that because I've never been diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder. Although I did test positive for "Olympic fever" once.)

In no area except morality would a sane person believe he can't criticize something stupid because he's done it. How about: If you've ever forgotten to fill up your car and run out of gas, you must forevermore defend a person's right to ignore the gas gauge. Or if you've ever forgotten to wear a coat in cold weather and caught a cold, henceforth you are obliged to encourage others not to dress appropriately in the winter.

This deep-seated societal fear of being accused of "hypocrisy" applies only to behavior touching on morals.

But we're all rotten sinners, incapable of redemption on our own. The liberal answer to sin is to say: I can never pay this back, so my argument will be I didn't do anything wrong.

The religion of peace's answer is: I've just beheaded an innocent man -- I'm off to meet Allah!

I don't know what the Jewish answer is, but I'm sure it's something other than, "therefore, what I did is no longer bad behavior" -- or the Talmud could be a lot shorter.

The Christian answer is: I can never pay this back, but luckily that Christ fellow has already paid my debt.
 

Tenchiro

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But we're all rotten sinners, incapable of redemption on our own. The liberal answer to sin is to say: I can never pay this back, so my argument will be I didn't do anything wrong.

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The Christian answer is: I can never pay this back, but luckily that Christ fellow has already paid my debt.
Essentially there is no difference. Except that Christians have their scapegoat already in place.
 

sanjuro

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1. It is wonderful to be a well-paid commentator as well as being a lawyer from a prestigious school. I highly recommend it to everyone.

2. However, for the women who are not so lucky, stripping is a profession. The women I know who are strippers have families, and need to make money to support them.

3. On the hand, I have seen strippers at a few private parties, and even though massive quantities of alcohol were consumed, guess what didn't happen?
 

fluff

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sanjuro said:
3. On the hand, I have seen strippers at a few private parties, and even though massive quantities of alcohol were consumed, guess what didn't happen?
A similar experience to my own. I have also managed to get drunk many times without assaulting a single person ever.

I did chuckle at this bit;

'and every Democrat who voted for Bill Clinton feels the need to defend duplicity, adultery, lying about adultery, sexual harassment, rape, perjury, obstruction of justice, kicking the can of global Islamo-fascism down the road for eight years and so on'

Does she really believe the crap she spews?
 

binary visions

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http://tinyurl.com/bjtun

edit: I suppose I need to put a warning on that... no pictures, but a lot of profanity and graphically sexual descriptions. And, might I add, it's hilarious. Been posted in the PD forum before.
 

Tenchiro

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sanjuro said:
Poll: Who you rather be with, a stripper or Ann Coulter...
Ann Coulter is wound up so tight I bet she is a freak in the sack. Strippers are jaded, and wouldn't give it the college try.
 

MudGrrl

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she's also getting in trouble for Voter Fraud.

"In his official incident report released last week, poll worker Jim Whited wrote that Coulter tried to vote in the Feb. 7 town council election at Bethesda-by-the-Sea, the right place for a Seabreeze resident. Coulter left in a hurry when, Whited said, he asked her to correct the record. Later she cast her ballot at the St. Edward's precinct, where real Indian Road residents go.

Coulter, a constitutional lawyer who relentlessly made fun of Palm Beach County voters after the botched 2000 presidential election, couldn't be reached for comment."
 

Silver

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sanjuro said:
Poll: Who you rather be with, a stripper or Ann Coulter...
A stripper. I'm not sticking my dick into anything that has a bigger Adam's apple than me. One of those little rules I live my life by...
 

valve bouncer

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Silver said:
A stripper. I'm not sticking my dick into anything that has a bigger Adam's apple than me. One of those little rules I live my life by...
And besides, who'd want to stir N8's porridge anyway.:rofl:
 

ohio

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N8 said:
It shouldn't be necessary to point out that girls shouldn't be bar-hopping alone or taking their clothes off in front of strangers, and that young men shouldn't be hiring strippers. But we live in a world of Bill Clinton, Paris Hilton, Howard Stern, Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman," Democratic fund-raisers at the Playboy Mansion and tax deductions for entertaining clients at strip clubs.
This is the part that cracks me up the most... in my extensive experience with fraternities, lacrosse teams, strippers/fraternities/lacross teams combined, and entertaining clients at strip clubs (and I'm not joking about any of that) the participants have overwhelmingly been conservatives.

Also, since when is Paris Hilton a democrat?

Chickenhead.
 

BurlyShirley

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sanjuro said:
2. However, for the women who are not so lucky, stripping is a profession. The women I know who are strippers have families, and need to make money to support them.
Haaahhahah!
I find it so ridiculous when people try and classify strippers as "unlucky single moms" and other such ****. There are other ways to make a living, and all the coke they do has nothing at all to do with raising kids. Please spare me. If the stripper in this story "happens" to be telling the truth, she's still an idiot for doing what she does. Do I condone rape? Of course not, but christ, it's a stripper. She probably didnt get paid after ****ing one of them, would be my guess.
 

BurlyShirley

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...and I'll just add that if, as a parent, you're supposed to be setting an example for your child, and you are stripping for a living. You are failing MISERABLY at parenthood. If your child grows up to be a stripper/pornstar/prostitute YOU HAVE FAILED AS A PARENT. Would anyone disagree with that?
 

Tenchiro

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BurlyShirley said:
...and I'll just add that if, as a parent, you're supposed to be setting an example for your child, and you are stripping for a living. You are failing MISERABLY at parenthood. If your child grows up to be a stripper/pornstar/prostitute YOU HAVE FAILED AS A PARENT. Would anyone disagree with that?
I almost agreed with you then I remembered Jenna Jameson.

God bless you Mr & Mrs Jameson! :thumb:
 

sanjuro

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BurlyShirley said:
...and I'll just add that if, as a parent, you're supposed to be setting an example for your child, and you are stripping for a living. You are failing MISERABLY at parenthood. If your child grows up to be a stripper/pornstar/prostitute YOU HAVE FAILED AS A PARENT. Would anyone disagree with that?
To be frank, I would have to agree. Neverthless, the women I knew were doing the best job they could trying to keep it together.

I might not have envied their work or lifestyle, but it was their lives and I respected them for trying.
 

BurlyShirley

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reflux said:
I'm amazed that Ann can get away with insinuating that rape is the victim's fault. Bitch.
Uh...it was a stripper...most likely a prostitute, therefor rape only constitutes theft.
 

BurlyShirley

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reflux said:
Woo hoo, sweeping generalizations and assumptions for everyone!!!
You know, it's generalizations and assumptions that allow you to survive, right? That's what learning is. You dont have to stick your hand on an oven burner when its glowing orange to know its hot, do you? You dont try to pet rabid pit bulls, do you? You dont TRUST strippers, or other cokeheads, do you?
 

reflux

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BurlyShirley said:
You know, it's generalizations and assumptions that allow you to survive, right? That's what learning is. You dont have to stick your hand on an oven burner when its glowing orange to know its hot, do you? You dont try to pet rabid pit bulls, do you? You dont TRUST strippers, or other cokeheads, do you?
I'm sorry, I must've missed the life lesson that taught me that ALL strippers are worthless. I have only been lucky enough to be good friends with one stripper, but I was unaware that she was a liar, cheat, etc. Interesting.

Btw, are you describing behaviorism?
 

BurlyShirley

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reflux said:
I'm sorry, I must've missed the life lesson that taught me that ALL strippers are worthless. I have only been lucky enough to be good friends with one stripper, but I was unaware that she was a liar, cheat, etc. Interesting.

Btw, are you describing behaviorism?
No. Im describinig strippers.

I didnt say the'yre worthless, I said they're cokeheads and usually prostitutes. Maybe you knew one that wasnt, but I doubt it.
 

reflux

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BurlyShirley said:
No. Im describinig strippers.

I didnt say the'yre worthless, I said they're cokeheads and usually prostitutes. Maybe you knew one that wasnt, but I doubt it.
Haha, okay, I'll give you that much. I'm very good friends with a girl who has dated more than her fair share of strippers. According to her, most of them mainly had daddy issues, with substance probs to a slightly lesser extent. But, she also knew several clean strippers who simply did it for the money. They were smarter than that.

The girl I was friends with was a huge freak, don't get me wrong. But, she was clean and is now happily married to a quality guy.

That being said though, I'd have to be a complete idiot to "loan" money to a crackhead. Do I look like a total e idiot?
 

BurlyShirley

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reflux said:
Haha, okay, I'll give you that much. I'm very good friends with a girl who has dated more than her fair share of strippers. According to her, most of them mainly had daddy issues, with substance probs to a slightly lesser extent. But, she also knew several clean strippers who simply did it for the money. They were smarter than that.

The girl I was friends with was a huge freak, don't get me wrong. But, she was clean and is now happily married to a quality guy.

That being said though, I'd have to be a complete idiot to "loan" money to a crackhead. Do I look like a total e idiot?

Well, I dont know you, but if someone were to just say "I loan crackheads money" I would think them an idiot. Is that out of line? Or generalizing? Yes, but it's also rational.
 

ohio

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fluff said:
Is that your new signoff?
No, it's my opinion of Coulter.

While we speaking of strippers, does anyone know what perfume that is that they use? I swear to god they all wear the same strawberry-ish perfume in industrial quantities and that **** sticks to you like roofing tar. It's like they have an agreement with all the women who don't grind their asses into boners for a living that they're allowed to grind their asses into boners for a living as long as they permanently mark all the men that took part.