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Life expectancy in the US

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
40,224
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[crossposted from my blog]

Researchers from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at my med school alma mater, University of Washington, just released a study entitled "Falling Behind: life expectancy in US counties from 2000 to 2007 in an international context." By breaking down life expectancy data on a county-by-county basis, it shows not only how the US as a whole lags the rest of the world but also how regions of the US differ vastly. Much as wealth is increasingly concentrated in an elite who largely live in metro areas of "blue states," so, too, is health.

Here's their most visually compelling figure, of county-by-county life expectancy for women. Blue is good, assuming one wants to live longer, and red is bad.




If you saw this and guessed that the counties that have lower life expectancy are the ones with lower socioeconomic status, then give yourself a pat on the back: you're exactly right. See the 2008 median household income by county data from the Census Bureau for proof. Conversely, one can see that people in rich counties live for quite a long time indeed, on par with the rest of the developed world.

I don't think access to money is the causative agent here, though. I bet it's just a good proxy measure for education level, tobacco use/disuse, and availability/use of preventative care. As such, I don't think throwing money at the problem (either at doctors in those regions or at the people themselves) will fix it. It'll take a wholesale changing of diet, lifestyle, and priorities in order to bring life expectancy in the red counties above up closer to the developed world's norm, and I don't affecting this change is a task well suited for the government even if it were inclined to take on such a role. Unfortunately, I don't think people are apt to change their pickup-truck driving, massively obese, smoking, unseatbelted ways any time soon, either, so expect more of the same in the future.
 

jimmydean

The Official Meat of Ridemonkey
Sep 10, 2001
43,516
15,723
Portland, OR
And the KK that was across from my old office hated us with a passion. Every Friday we got a delivery from Beaverton Bakery that KK could only wish they could offer.

Keep that sh!t in the South where it belongs.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
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I'm sure lots of old people move there to retire, skewing the numbers. Same with florida
i would doubt pensioners would exist in sufficient numbers to skew the results primarily attributed to the rubenesque natives

lies!

damn lies!
 

Toshi

butthole powerwashing evangelist
Oct 23, 2001
40,224
9,112
I'm sure lots of old people move there to retire, skewing the numbers. Same with florida
For that to have any effect you'd have to assume that only healthy old people move there. This is about life expectancy, not generally how old people happen to be.
 

stevew

resident influencer
Sep 21, 2001
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you all should be overjoyed....you think you are superior to these people anyway.....
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
any maps showing geolocation of charitable giving?

that should quiet this crowd.
 

H8R

Cranky Pants
Nov 10, 2004
13,959
35
So it looks like living in some sh1tty southern county you'd mercifully die 10 years early.



And?
 

H8R

Cranky Pants
Nov 10, 2004
13,959
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I think if you averaged out all these maps, Yazoo City is a really unhealthy place to live.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
6
how do they figure NV seeing how close to 90% of it is gov't owned & therefore non-residential?

do they just give it a baseline number for "no data available"?

slipshod
 

kidwoo

Artisanal Tweet Curator
how do they figure NV seeing how close to 90% of it is gov't owned & therefore non-residential?
It's by county from what I can tell. I definitely notice some familiar outlines.

But if you know nevada, the two darker zones are the I-80 corridor, and the the obvious vegas dipped in riches at the bottom.......basically the only places people live.

Now that said, I'm assuming it's just a percentage of donation/income or local economy. One single mining company giving to the RNC could boost the average.
 
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ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
6,649
26
SF, CA
any maps showing geolocation of charitable giving?

that should quiet this crowd.
Probably not.

This is only the top ten, but they are:
1 - Utah
2 - Maryland
3 - New York
4 - Connecticut
5 - California
6 - Hawaii
7 - New Jersey
8 - Georgia
9 - South Carolina
10 - North Carolina

So basically, no correlation with wealth or health or politics at all. As far as I can tell - the correlation is proximity to ocean or tabernacle.
 

$tinkle

Expert on blowing
Feb 12, 2003
14,591
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Just in: Living in the Bible Belt really does make you dumber!

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/health/05stroke.html


are you saying blacks are dumber?
Probably not.

This is only the top ten, but they are:
1 - Utah
2 - Maryland
3 - New York
4 - Connecticut
5 - California
6 - Hawaii
7 - New Jersey
8 - Georgia
9 - South Carolina
10 - North Carolina

So basically, no correlation with wealth or health or politics at all. As far as I can tell - the correlation is proximity to ocean or tabernacle.
not "at all", but rather "as far as i can tell from seeing 10 states & projecting what i know about their wealth, health, or politics"

iow, it seems you stopped short once you found "inconclusive evidence". so, i went ahead & did some light reading for you:
forbes link said:
The Boston-based Catalogue for Philanthropy recently published the "Generosity Index"--an annual ranking of the most and least generous states from one to 50--since 1997. To come up with the index, the CFP analyzes charitable deductions on itemized tax returns and factors in the average adjusted gross income for each state. This year, Mississippi ranks first, followed by Arkansas, South Dakota and Oklahoma. Northeastern states New Jersey, Massachusetts and New Hampshire are at the bottom of the list, as they've been since the study was first released.
so it would seem the secular regions are more apt toward parsimony & not philanthropy, while those w/ more religious tendencies are more easily manipulated to part w/ their cash.

this shouldn't come as a huge surprise that jebus freaks are so easily taken advantage of, given the recent evidence for the religious as being delusional/psychotic/lacking in critical thinking skills
 

ohio

The Fresno Kid
Nov 26, 2001
6,649
26
SF, CA
are you saying blacks are dumber?
not "at all", but rather "as far as i can tell from seeing 10 states & projecting what i know about their wealth, health, or politics"

iow, it seems you stopped short once you found "inconclusive evidence". so, i went ahead & did some light reading for you:so it would seem the secular regions are more apt toward parsimony & not philanthropy, while those w/ more religious tendencies are more easily manipulated to part w/ their cash.
Did you really just criticize me for using 10/50 sample to say I couldn't see a correlation, only to follow that up yourself by using 6/50 to declare a correlation?

Those are statistical skills that could only hail from a fat, selfish state.
 

dante

Unabomber
Feb 13, 2004
8,807
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looking for classic NE singletrack
Did you really just criticize me for using 10/50 sample to say I couldn't see a correlation, only to follow that up yourself by using 6/50 to declare a correlation?

Those are statistical skills that could only hail from a fat, selfish state.
I'd also question the logic of using tax returns to figure out "charitable giving". Tithing to churches is not necessarily philanthropic, and yet is still tax deductible.