i have one of their slalom frames in a box in my atticsmart people, just one more reason I keep coming back here. should I see if my neighbor wants me to sell his new mailbox as well?
They are great and super light. Hold up surprising well if you don't ride rocky trails. For now mine are on the pumptrack bike as I have a hard time tracking down the spikier replacement pins in Yurp.I like the xpedo spry.
A friend of mine just got the plastic ones too and he is already complaining about the snapped pins.The metal of the pins must be hardened since I have snapped a few instead of bending them.
not great. (I have two sets). 1 bent axle. 2 knackered bearings after minimal use.can't comment on durability yet
Has anybody tried the Wah Wah II pedals?
Hugely impressed with mine. My local terrain is admittedly not super rocky, so huge smashes are a less regular occurrence for me, but it's wet and hard on bearings here, which is a big selling point for them. Grip and feel are also stellar. Proper concave and thin at the same time. I'm sold.I think this is one of the coolest flat pedals ever made, if weight isn't a big concern.
I haven't owned them so you'd want to get some second opinions on long term durability, but the long term reviews I've seen have been positive. It's ridiculously thin which I find IS a benefit if there's no convexity - and the Boomslang is actually concave (unlike retarded thin-but-convex designs like One-Up and Canfield), uses needle bearings to deal with the loading that a thin pedal brings, and has a design which focuses primarily on optimal feel and maximum grip. It's definitely on the heavy side by my standards, and is the only reason I haven't owned a pair yet.
I'll soon have an excuse to buy the new plastic OneUp thennot great. (I have two sets). 1 bent axle. 2 knackered bearings after minimal use.
Do yourself a favour and remove the axle, lift the bearing seal and put more grease in there. it's a 5 min job. unlike removing that bearing when it seizes or colapses.
Are you stuck using Gamut's pins when you need a replacement, or does anything else fit?Been running Gamut Podium pedals (updated Point1s) for about 2 years now. Solid pedal: cromo axle, forged body, pins are easy enough to replace. Recommended. View attachment 128623
So I've only had to replace one or two pins and I just used the spare pins that came with the pedals. Not sure about other pins fitting. They sell stainless steel pins if you're looking for something a bit more solid. http://www.gamutusa.com/podium-pedal-pins/Are you stuck using Gamut's pins when you need a replacement, or does anything else fit?
Did you ever run Easton Flatboys? I had the good fortune to pick those as my first good set of flat pedals and they lasted years without a whimper. When I finally ripped out too many pins, I finally conceded and tried Saints (bent axle), Nukeproofs (bent axles), Spanks (bent axle, collapsed bearings) and now finally DMR Vaults (good luck so far). Granted the Flatboys weigh a ton, but geez either mine were crazy strong or I just had good luck.I bend axles on EVERY pedal
DMR Vaults are a solid pedal (run them on my DJ bike) but there are lighter, thinner pedals that have good reliability out there these days. Don't think DMR have really caught up with some of the other pedal companies.just buy the DMR Vault
I had many flat pedals over the years..... and its the best ever. and also very strong.
just DMR it!
To be fair. I used to bend and snap cranks (pre-Saint) so I'm not too fussed about a cheap and easily replaced pedal axle going first. Bit like a replacable gear hanger on a nice frame .Did you ever run Easton Flatboys? I had the good fortune to pick those as my first good set of flat pedals and they lasted years without a whimper. When I finally ripped out too many pins, I finally conceded and tried Saints (bent axle), Nukeproofs (bent axles), Spanks (bent axle, collapsed bearings) and now finally DMR Vaults (good luck so far). Granted the Flatboys weigh a ton, but geez either mine were crazy strong or I just had good luck.
Can confirm - have even been holding up pretty well to really rocky trails. Do need to regularly replace outside pins because I'm a hack.They are great and super light. Hold up surprising well if you don't ride rocky trails. For now mine are on the pumptrack bike as I have a hard time tracking down the spikier replacement pins in Yurp.
It might be fine for a smooth bike park but I couldn't even pedal in corners with 175mm Zee cranks.
It's a hardtail though, right? Not really very low if that's the case. My 165/170mm bike has a 311mm BB height and it's crazy low at sag. I run 170mm cranks though and no issues.It might be fine for a smooth bike park but I couldn't even pedal in corners with 175mm Zee cranks.
I wouldn't say DMR hasn't caught up with other pedal companies. DMR was ahead of the game with platform size. Vaults were big when most flat pedals were under 100mmx100mm. They also didn't follow the thiner at all cost philosophy. It would be tough to make the vault any thiner and preserve the shape (concavity) that makes them work so well. It would be tough to make them lighter without compromising the platform size. The vault has remained unchanged because it's pretty dialed. It's one of those rare examples of a design that works and doesn't change just to follow trends. Vaults are the DHF of pedals.DMR Vaults are a solid pedal (run them on my DJ bike) but there are lighter, thinner pedals that have good reliability out there these days. Don't think DMR have really caught up with some of the other pedal companies.
Isn‘t Olly Wilkins responsible in some way for their products? I mean that guy obviously knows what works and what doesn‘t.I wouldn't say DMR hasn't caught up with other pedal companies. DMR was ahead of the game with platform size. Vaults were big when most flat pedals were under 100mmx100mm. They also didn't follow the thiner at all cost philosophy. It would be tough to make the vault any thiner and preserve the shape (concavity) that makes them work so well. It would be tough to make them lighter without compromising the platform size. The vault has remained unchanged because it's pretty dialed. It's one of those rare examples of a design that works and doesn't change just to follow trends. Vaults are the DHF of pedals.
My only issues with them are the bushings develop play fast. Not a big deal considering the outer bearing lasts. I also bang them often, but that's the trade off for deep concavity and a large platform.
I love Gamut’s as well. No issues for two years and still going strong.Been running Gamut Podium pedals (updated Point1s) for about 2 years now. Solid pedal: cromo axle, forged body, pins are easy enough to replace. Recommended. View attachment 128623
I also have over a year on a pair of Gamut Podiums.I love Gamut’s as well. No issues for two years and still going strong.
i think i speak for @jonKranked, and probably everyone else, when i say...KILL LISTThese belong in the 'This Is What's Wrong With The Industry' thread, but they also belong here?
($500)
http://www.vpcomponents.com/product/blade/
Which one has a bigger contact area inside the pinned perimeter?Between the Podiums and the Ti axle Spank Spikes - I'm set for pedals.
I guess so. But considering they're for "urban" biking that's pretty much the default.i think i speak for @jonKranked, and probably everyone else, when i say...KILL LIST
looks like some hipster shit that fucker at the radavist would plug
Yeah it is, I tried my last one with 26" wheels and it was 300mm and was absolutely useless for XC, with 650b wheels it was good. The new one is about a 1265mm wheelbase with a long back end and to me a 310mm BB is too low, with 175mm cranks the pedals would contact the ground on seated turns, it was also useless in ruts and sticks seemed to make their way through the pedal bodies every now and then which was not an issue I had ever really had before, Boomslangs should deflect more sticks, hahaha!It's a hardtail though, right? Not really very low if that's the case. My 165/170mm bike has a 311mm BB height and it's crazy low at sag. I run 170mm cranks though and no issues.
Which one has a bigger contact area inside the pinned perimeter?
Good to hear the podium has held up, have you wiped out many alloy pins?
Suspect I'd have to switch them out for the stainless personally, should be standard inclusion.
I'm on the Spank Oozy with Ti axles now, very happy.
Retired the Spikes (from 2013 when I started this thread) still functioning.
I did bend one axle in 5 years, and used one new igus bushing kit on them. No complaints.
EDIT -
Now I remember why I didn't get the Podium2, Acadian snapped a body!
Apparently they're in their 3rd gen now though and have forged bodies, sounds sorted.
Stainless pins add 20g which means ~20g heavier than my Oozy/Ti/Stainless combo though, guess I'm sticking with em.
Looks like they would catch on rocks and sh*t. I go otb enough already...These belong in the 'This Is What's Wrong With The Industry' thread, but they also belong here?
($500)
http://www.vpcomponents.com/product/blade/