I loved my z rims. Braking wasn't as good as chrome though. And in flatland back then, it was all about the brakes.ACS Z rimz??
Light, strong ... and metal.
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Are Stans ZTR Flow EX comparable to the 823?
Not really. They're a substantially lighter and a bit less strong. That said, they're tough enough for DH duty for most people, provided that you're not expecting them to last 5 years.
Well my 729 is going into its 5th season, and it has many more seasons to serve! (knock on wood)
i'm more referring to new products being released this season
I've got every hope that all three frames I have right now are going to last that long. All are still in production.
*edit: all three that I have built up. Wall art excluded.
Not even close. I've seen those thing destroyed pretty easily on trail bikes.
any product that's called "FLOW" is designed only for use on IMBA approved trails. IE paved woodland paths with nary a rock in sight.
Those are tough guy rims for people who have never owned tough guy rims on their 24lb xc bikes.
823s are dh rims, nothing stans makes is. The weight difference is something like 160g per rim. That's not spoke holes.
823s are dh rims, nothing stans makes is. The weight difference is something like 160g per rim. That's not spoke holes.
Yeah. I ran a set of Flows on my DH bike for a bit at one point. They lasted about a season but were pretty trashed by the end of it.
I also only weigh like 155# so there's that.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
You can get DH capable rims that will last a couple seasons that weigh a bit less than an 823 (eg. Supra D), but if you're running a rim that weighs 500g or less for DH, then you either ride like a flower or you replace your rims once a season.
I myself ride like a flower. A really rough flower though so I still need 600g rims.
I had trouble getting more than a season out of the Outlaws, DT's, and WTB laser dh's. I guess the only real dh rims I've owned were Spank Spike's. And Mag 30's.
I'm hoping for some good life out of spank subrosas, anyone had good luck?
I fabricated BeCu swing arm bushings for my H1 - the trick was allowing for shrinkage in post-fabrication heat treatment.
And not inhaling any toxic dust
More of an issue with Be than BeCu. Gimbal framework for the SABRE guidance system was a lovely Be machined part, sorry I never snagged one for a souvenir,
We used BE in some high frequency accelerometer calibration systems. Freaky light and super stiff, i.e. high resonant frequency.
Oh man. I bought some subrosas and then my dog died, my house caught on fire and my car broke an axle. The rims were fine but man, that was some shit luck.
Also......
"Oh yeah hi, my name's Westy, I calibrate accelerometers. Wanna make out?"
Braggart.
What a coincidence, my name is also westy. Sorry you have to calibrate accelerometers, boring shit. You will have to post some headshots before anyone will want to make out with you.
I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully your next bike brings you nothing but awesomeness and the right kind of attention
I'm sorry to hear that, hopefully your next bike brings you nothing but awesomeness and the right kind of attention
Speaking of attention, get off the innernet and pay some!
Oh wait it's like 8pm.......nevermind.
i,d look at a SPANK rim , i have the 260trail OOZY on my bike and i have been beating on them and they are in killer shape still , switching to the newer 295trail with my next wheelset
http://www.modernbike.com/alex-supra-d-26-32h-black-disc-only
http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222358326/354/Alex-Supra-D-26-Black.html
there are others...but you can probably use google too.
http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222358326/354/Alex-Supra-D-26-Black.html
there are others...but you can probably use google too.
i have been using google, guess i missed some. thanks
Carbon rims suck for DH unless you run over 9000psi. Watched many an enve explode in front of me in Whistler.
Supra D is one of the best DH rims. 721s suck, MTX29s are okay, anything that weighs 500g or less will work if you are a squid or get free rims and wheelbuilds.
Supra D is one of the best DH rims. 721s suck, MTX29s are okay, anything that weighs 500g or less will work if you are a squid or get free rims and wheelbuilds.
Well not running 9000psi at whistler is kind of stupid anyway.
It's not like you're riding on dirt anywhere.
I do have a buddy that's kept some m90s in shape all summer, whistler included. And he's faster than most. Like got paid to race world cups a while back faster than most.
That single wheel set has impressed me. The older ones not so much. Not sure what that means.......I'd like a pair but I'm not paying for them. Not on a dh bike.
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What about I9 DH rims at 530 grams and 28.5 internal width?
-Brett
-Brett
Funny you should ask. That's what I've been riding this summer. The sidewalls dent.
The end
Actually not the end. They're good n' light. I like 'em. I'll be building them back up when my rear finally is unrounded.
Full wheelset with I9 hubs and their funny spokes was 1830 grams FWIW. Lightest dh wheelset I personally have ever owned. They're also the only wheelset I've ever been able to run tubeless without destroying tires. The soft sidewalls have something to do with that. I guess they're not really that soft. I just ding rims. Because dh.
-fin
The end
Actually not the end. They're good n' light. I like 'em. I'll be building them back up when my rear finally is unrounded.
Full wheelset with I9 hubs and their funny spokes was 1830 grams FWIW. Lightest dh wheelset I personally have ever owned. They're also the only wheelset I've ever been able to run tubeless without destroying tires. The soft sidewalls have something to do with that. I guess they're not really that soft. I just ding rims. Because dh.
-fin
I just picked up a set of dt fr600 rims laced to 240s hubs nib for 220 on ebay
Let's hear some Supra 35 reviews.
whats the consensus on fr600's? also, dt swiss website has a 26in version of the f570 listed, but i dont see them for sale anywhere yet. says they are 570g per rim with 27.5mm inner width. basically i have a wheelset on my dhr with 823's, no problems whatsoever but if i could save a little weight and get to try a slightly wider inner width that would be nice.
The 570 is a much better rim than the FR600. Early batches of the FR600 are a real pain to get tires on and off. The 571 is much better doesn't have that problem at all. I run the 571 for a strong rear rim on my DH bike and the 471 for the front.
no complaints on my ex500s...prolly 3 years in, just a dent or two.