Dude, it has literaly been 2 years since I last rode with you....
Lightest V-10?
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Awww, maybe we should get Sanjuro in on this...then his former AND current co-workers can bash on him. I'd really like to know how you conjured up your weight with a 40 and a coil rear shock.
Calibrating a digital scale to make it display the weight you want it to is fairly easy.I'd really like to know how you conjured up your weight with a 40 and a coil rear shock.
Ah true, good point. I'm just used to see what the local guys here do to their V10s and there's no chance that they could run those parts. Kram weighs about 135lbs and he's killed a V10 frame and atomlab wheelset. Put him on that spec and it'd be gone in no time. However, to be fair he's a serious contender in a state where having 4 World Cup winners and World Champions show up to a race of 80 people isn't anything out of the ordinary.
Good on this Montashu fellow if he's light and smooth enough to get away with that spec. I know I'd have trouble keeping it in one piece and I'm not really a wrecker myself.
My Turner DHR weighs a shade under 40lbs, and I do like a light bike. But eventually for me the $$$ cost per gram saved and the added fragility of the overall ride wouldn't work for me.
I second the motion.
Yeah, that is a bit of an odd comment to make. I take pleasure in teasing Loren, but I avoid making personal statement about my friend.
It has been a while since you ridden with him. You might want to check your opinion until you ride with him again.
i have a mountain bike. it is white. is has suspension, and tires with knobs. christ, it even has hydraulic disc brakes! it weighs between 35 and 45lbs. i can go off drops with it. i once took it off a jump too. ooooooooo i also race it. will you guys be my friends?
In fact I do, I am 135 pounds there is no way in hell im ganna be able to throw around a 45-50 pound bike easely.
suck it up. i weigh 130 and had no problem with my m1, which was around 45 lbs, this season.
Oh whatever. Lift some weights instead of your purse and you'll throw a 50 pounder around no problem.
There are local riders not much bigger then you riding much bigger bikes and rockin the hell out of them.
Maybe if you get some muscle on you we can stop having this goddam lame ass 35 pound bull**** v10 turn thread pop up again.
You know, I started this thread talking about a 36 pound V-10 but I should have just said a 36 lb DH race bike. If you check the bikes being raced on the WC circuit they are all a lot closer to 36 pounds than they are to 50 pounds.
Tires are the biggest factor and have to be picked for the course and your comfort level. Gazzaloddi 3.0's are long gone for a reason!
I am interested in hearing what others have done to make a lighter bike and how it is working for them. I am a resposible adult; I can decide for myself if it will work for me.
Tires are the biggest factor and have to be picked for the course and your comfort level. Gazzaloddi 3.0's are long gone for a reason!
I am interested in hearing what others have done to make a lighter bike and how it is working for them. I am a resposible adult; I can decide for myself if it will work for me.
I think its great that people are building lighter bikes. In the last few years the average weight of a dh bike has probably dropped by a few pounds. I too like to see what components are used and the result.
On here there seems to be a safe zone for bike weights... say 37-42lbs.
If your bike is lighter than 37 lbs your weight is bs or it might self destruct when you actually ride it, but if its heavier than 42 lbs, people ask why it weighs so much...
On here there seems to be a safe zone for bike weights... say 37-42lbs.
If your bike is lighter than 37 lbs your weight is bs or it might self destruct when you actually ride it, but if its heavier than 42 lbs, people ask why it weighs so much...
I know it's cheaper to ride heavier parts, but not everyone needs cranks designed to hold up to badly executed 20' drops by a 200 pounder. You're carrying extra weight around needlessly, and would probably really benefit from picking your parts a little more carefully. But why would you, when you can claim to be a man b/c your bike weighs so much.
Just like the monster truck syndrome mentioned earlier in this thread... 
It is possible that gnurider is a very aggressive rider and would break anything lighter than what he has.I know it's cheaper to ride heavier parts, but not everyone needs cranks designed to hold up to badly executed 20' drops by a 200 pounder. You're carrying extra weight around needlessly, and would probably really benefit from picking your parts a little more carefully. But why would you, when you can claim to be a man b/c your bike weighs so much.
what about motocross? there's kids 1/2 your weight throwing around bikes 2x the weight of your bike.
I was just about to post the same thing... I ride DH and MX, and at 135 lbs I can comfortably whip a 270-pound enduro bike and can say that my 225-pound bike feels plenty light.
One of my riding buddies has an old (1997) cheeta prowler with whacked out geometry due to 8" of travel front and rear, which weighs in at 53 lbs and it feels like riding a toothpick to me. I'll admit, I'm not really THAT strong either, I am quite boney. It's all about proper technique, having a super nice bike might help your riding a little but not nearly as much as time and practice. I find it better to work your way up to a better bike as your skills increase, that way you can learn the techniques along the way. Just my .02
One of my riding buddies has an old (1997) cheeta prowler with whacked out geometry due to 8" of travel front and rear, which weighs in at 53 lbs and it feels like riding a toothpick to me. I'll admit, I'm not really THAT strong either, I am quite boney. It's all about proper technique, having a super nice bike might help your riding a little but not nearly as much as time and practice. I find it better to work your way up to a better bike as your skills increase, that way you can learn the techniques along the way. Just my .02
just like how you always told me, "yeah, dude, these shinguards just totally boost your confidence"...
yeah, they may boost your confidence, but they dont make you a better rider.
having a really nice bike will do the same thing, you may feel like youre better now that you have more confidence in your bike, but it all depends on you...
somebody tell me to shut up, i'm just posting to post... this has probably already been said... well, F.C.D.H pretty much just said it....
it was around 45 with xt cranks. i'm not bragging about how heavy my bike is, i like riding light bikes. i'm just telling him to shut up about needing a light bike because he is a light kid.I know it's cheaper to ride heavier parts, but not everyone needs cranks designed to hold up to badly executed 20' drops by a 200 pounder. You're carrying extra weight around needlessly, and would probably really benefit from picking your parts a little more carefully. But why would you, when you can claim to be a man b/c your bike weighs so much.
I guess its because most of us read this kind of thread and think they're dressing up a barbie doll rather than tapping that sh!t!
Now you guys are picking on him because he's weak? I don't think you realize how stupid you all sound. Weekly there's a thread either trashing Montashu for having a light bike or trashing some bike setup that you found on Pinkbike because it's different. Stop being such princesses and go have fun on your bikes.
Word dude.
Instead og people critisizing eachother I would like to hear more about how to build a light V10 !!
i remember a few years back we came to the concensus of that an extremely light build was 25lbs, add your frame and you have your bike weight.
that almost completely holds true today, only difference is that the boxxer wc dropped 1lbs off the 25lbs figure.
take these v10s for instance, 11lbs frame, 25lbs build, subtract 1 for the boxxer wc. add 1lbs because of not being able to run XTR cranks and the 150mm rear hub. then subtract 3lbs because theyre running single ply tires and FR rims(course specific, imho) and you end up with 35lbs.....
is the v10 11lbs with a dhx or is that weight w/o shock?
that's a pretty bike there Poser!
thx.
-r
that's a pretty bike there Poser!
thx.
-r
11.5 with DHX coil and steel spring
the tearm throwing around a bike only makes stuff more complicated.
if you are big and strong, you can ride agresively and man handle a bike. but if you are light and weaker,you most proably would be smoother and ride with the bike. you wont be able to man handle a bike and your whole riding style would be difference anyways.
so comparing your weight to your bikes weight doesn't prove anything. kids on moto-x bikes being a great example, so do see them 'throwing around' their bikes like how the big boys do.
if you are big and strong, you can ride agresively and man handle a bike. but if you are light and weaker,you most proably would be smoother and ride with the bike. you wont be able to man handle a bike and your whole riding style would be difference anyways.
so comparing your weight to your bikes weight doesn't prove anything. kids on moto-x bikes being a great example, so do see them 'throwing around' their bikes like how the big boys do.
Don't agree with you there.
I've just recently dropped my DH bike from ~41 to ~37 and can notice a pretty big difference in how easily I can manoeuvre the bike.
I used to very much be one of those "ride with the bike" types, being skinny and not weighing much. Now I find I can pick the bike up and throw it around pretty easily, corner more aggressively, and just have a lot more control over the bike in general (rather than vice versa).
I think weight savings are going to be MOST noticed by the smaller/weaker guys, and it can be quite beneficial.
The point being made by the non weight weenies is that losing a pound or two isn't NECESSARY, you can learn to compensate for the little bit of extra weight. If you're into taking away however much weight you can, then go for it, but you don't NEED your bike to be lighter so you can handle it, it's just all technique.
hmm, i really need to work harder at making my posts clearer.
of course you would be able to flick the bike better with reduction in weight. i know, i am 121 lbs with a 42 lbs bike. but at the end of the day, your riding style when compared to a big strong guy would still be way different. of course small changes make a difference, and differences that you can feel. like you said, be more agressive ect.
i guess i have a diffent point of view, of course weight will help you handle the bike better, but at the end of the day, nomatter how much weight you saved, you aren't suddently going to change your riding style from go with the flow to man handeling the bike like kovaric.
just IMO.
Guys just wanted to seal this thread with my under 39lbs m3 which whichI tried not to compromise strength with weight... and yeah take out all your aggressions on the dirt..http://new.photos.yahoo.com/teresa916/album/576460762349367370/photo/294928803751653275/0
To go faster, the best way to spend your money is on a riding course like Mad March Racing etc.
The rider is probably 95% responsible for his race time and the bike only 5%. However, DH races are won and lost by margins of less than 1%. Still there is no question that a better rider can whoop your *ss with much heavier bike than yours.
But heavy bikes are NOT faster. They may be more reliable and you do have to finish to win.
You're a quick learner, welcome to the interweb!! :biggrin:
Its called Common Sense. Doesn't take a genius to do the math and figure out your bike ain't under 40.
For the record, my commencal had much lighter parts then yours, and was 40.2 pounds, which is why I call bull**** on almost everybody in this thread, and give them a nutpunch.
My complete Sunday WC had a lighter build than that thing and it was still like 42lbs.