[manhattanprjkt83]

Hey folks, question for everyone. I am in need of a new wheelset and after running carbon rims on several bikes over the past few years I am thinking I'll go back to alloy for a bit more of a supple ride. Who is running some i35 ish rims which are reasonably light they really like? Primary usage will be trail riding...Not looking for a full wheel set as I'll be lacing them up to some Onyx hubs. Thanks!

 

[jonKranked]

i have an old pair of spank oozy trail rims that i like. they're not the lightest, but were light-ish at the time (from what i recall for the 26" version) and have been durable. i wasn't crazy about their valve stems though, and that ooh-bah rim profile they have takes a little extra focus to tape, but i wouldn't say its a dealbreaker. riding wise i've been happy with the rims. i have a set of vibrocore bars, i'd be curious to try the vibrocore rims

 

[Salami]

What size tire are you running that you are looking for a 35mm rim?

 

[dump]

I see retirement is coming in your 30s. Try sit and be fit. Worked great for my neighbor.

 

[jonKranked]

What size tire are you running that you are looking for a 35mm rim?

i'm guessing something a little bigger, maybe 2.6ish, IIRC @manhattanprjkt83 has a new hardtail on the way

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

I generally run 2.5" tires for most of my riding...i35 might be pushing the width thing, I am open to a bit smaller also.

 

[englertracing]

Well my friend
Dt swiss....

Xm531 is an all mountain rated 35mm rim...
I'd want something stronger out back.
They so make an overkill strong i35 called an hx581 but is expensive and heavy.

I'd do an EX511 30mm rear if you want it strong.
Or an xm481 30mm rear if you want it light and decent strength.

The real difference between the two is mostly in the bead thickness so, dent resistance.

Also I've got a bike with 35mm carbon rims and with a 2.5 the rim is very exposed. I wouldn't select a 35mm for the rear again.

I helped my friend pick out a hx531 35mm front and ex511 30mm rear for his tranny patrol and he's really into trolling for the trannies with it.

 

[slyfink]

I too was generally pleased with Spank's Oozy rims, but I really have a hard time with their name, and since you can't strip the decals off, I looked elswhere.

I'm running Chromag Phase 30 rims now. After some build-related issues, they are now tight and running solid. I'm impressed. They are a little heavier though.

I had also been contemplating the Newmen A.30 rims, but don't have any first hand info to report on.

 

[canadmos]

Aren't there rocks to worry about in PA?

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Aren't there rocks to worry about in PA?

Absolutely.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Well my friend
Dt swiss....

Xm531 is an all mountain rated 35mm rim...
I'd want something stronger out back.
They so make an overkill strong i35 called an hx581 but is expensive and heavy.

I'd do an EX511 30mm rear if you want it strong.
Or an xm481 30mm rear if you want it light and decent strength.

The real difference between the two is mostly in the bead thickness so, dent resistance.

Also I've got a bike with 35mm carbon rims and with a 2.5 the rim is very exposed. I wouldn't select a 35mm for the rear again.

I helped my friend pick out a hx531 35mm front and ex511 30mm rear for his tranny patrol and he's really into trolling for the trannies with it.

Thank you!

 

[daisycutter]

My bike shop recommends the Raceface Acr Offset 35s rims which run around $100.00 per

 

[jonKranked]

I too was generally pleased with Spank's Oozy rims, but I really have a hard time with their name, and since you can't strip the decals off, I looked elswhere.

 

[canadmos]

My bike shop recommends the Raceface Acr Offset 35s rims which run around $100.00 per

Don't know how these due in terms of weight, but I have ruined two of those Raceface rims in the last year.

 

[Happymtb.fr]

Check Newmen 's rims.
I run their evolution sl xa25 (25mm innerwidth) on my trail bike and find them really resistant to dents for 400g rims!
They also have wider rims that my riding buddies like. FWIW

 

[djjohnr]

I killed two of the non-offset ARC30s pretty quickly.

 

[canadmos]

I think mine are the ARC30 version as well. Either way, I doubt a wider rim is any stronger.

 

[ZHendo]

After a negative experience with E.13's TRS+ rims, swapped the rear rim to a Spank 350. Very much on the lightweight side for an alloy rim and it held up well for a couple of seasons, but then had a catastrophic failure related to casing a fairly small jump - I don't think the rim should have failed like that. I spoke with the guys at Spank and the rep seemed to agree that it wasn't the strongest rim, instead recommending a 350 front and 359 rear rim. Unfortunately they were sold out, but I'd like to try in the future. Agree that the name is stupid, and I really hate taping their wonky OohBah rim bed, but the rims are fairly solid and build up well.

I'm now on a WTB KOM Tough rim, which is a reasonable weight but has some internal bracing that should make it hold up well for a rear rim. Unfortunately I've been having issues with the wheel keeping tension, but it seems to be holding its shape well and I've had good luck with WTB rims in the past.

 

[4xBoy]

I like the arc 30 I just built stans sentry rims cause they were stupid cheap.

Both have been solid.

 

[englertracing]

I like the arc 30 I just built stans sentry rims cause they were stupid cheap.

Both have been solid.

both are well known to be easily dented

 

[Salami]

I killed two of the non-offset ARC30s pretty quickly.

I think mine are the ARC30 version as well. Either way, I doubt a wider rim is any stronger.

The ARC's were supposedly made out of Swiss cheese. The Offset ARC's are supposed to be a good bit stronger.

 

[Salami]

For a Maxxis 2.5 or smaller personally I like 28-30mm internal. 35mm makes the tire square off too much for me.

My first choice would be the DT Swiss XM481. It seems to be the strongest out of the lighter alloy options. The others that were marginally lighter didn't seem to be nearly as strong. I built new alloy wheels in the early spring and the only reason I didn't choose them was price (outside my budget).

I wound up getting Stan's Flow Mk3 due to price (pair for $125). I wasn't expecting much from them but have been very pleased with them so far. Build quality was much better than expected and they built up nice and straight.

 

[Westy]

Maxxis WT tires pair well with 35mm rims but I do not like the profile other tires of similar size work on those wide rims. A lot more options with a 30 mm rim.

 

[canadmos]

The ARC's were supposedly made out of Swiss cheese. The Offset ARC's are supposed to be a good bit stronger.

Both mine were the offset ones.

This is from the recent one. Hit a rock on this one, it didn't slice the tire but there was no way it would seal. Thanks Pisgah. I had to toss it recently after the spoke holes started to crack in a different spot - don't remember hitting anything there, but was after a few days of riding at MSA.

The other rim had the tire bead fold right over towards the center of the rim. Immediately had to toss it out.

 

[FlipSide]

Like many others, I destroyed an ARC30 fairly easily.

For the OP question: I'd go with Stan's Flow MK3 front and rear if you're looking for good quality light-ish alloy rims. I've had numerous rims from Stan's in the past and they've all been very good.

 

[jstuhlman]

I've had good luck with EX500s, then EX471s, for many years. No cracking, and any dents could be massaged out enough to still work. If I was getting something a bit wider I'd do the EX511s, although you're not getting the lightest thing out there at that point. Other friends have had pretty good luck with Stans.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

thanks guys this is all great information!

 

[4xBoy]

both are well known to be easily dented

I run big tires, high psi and we don't have real rocks around here.

 

[Bikael Molton]

I'm a fan of both 471s and Flows.

I've been debating 471 vs 511 for the wheels I'm having built up soon in 29". I was all set on finally making the leap to 30mm ID, but my question vis-a-vis World Cups has me doubting the performance of a wide rim.

I also often ride a 2.35 rear, though with the WIld Rockr2 being discontinued, I may be on 2.5s once my stack of Miches runs out.

 

[jonKranked]

I run big tires, high psi and we don't have real rocks around here.

also, you just build bikes. not ride them.

 

[4xBoy]

also, you just build bikes. not ride them.

Also true.

 

[Salami]

Both mine were the offset ones.

This is from the recent one. Hit a rock on this one, it didn't slice the tire but there was no way it would seal. Thanks Pisgah. I had to toss it recently after the spoke holes started to crack in a different spot - don't remember hitting anything there, but was after a few days of riding at MSA.

The other rim had the tire bead fold right over towards the center of the rim. Immediately had to toss it out.

Is that an Offset ARC or an Offset AR? AR's of any variation are supposed to be made from Swiss cheese. The only ones that seems to hold up is the Offset Arc or Offset Arc HD.

 

[englertracing]

I'm a fan of both 471s and Flows.

I've been debating 471 vs 511 for the wheels I'm having built up soon in 29". I was all set on finally making the leap to 30mm ID, but my question vis-a-vis World Cups has me doubting the performance of a wide rim.

I also often ride a 2.35 rear, though with the WIld Rockr2 being discontinued, I may be on 2.5s once my stack of Miches runs out.

Do an xm481 front @ 30mm
Ritchie rude was riding them with 28 spokes.... he probably buckled one and quit, but your not ritchie rude right?
And a ex471 rear @ 25mm

 

[canadmos]

Is that an Offset ARC or an Offset AR? AR's of any variation are supposed to be made from Swiss cheese. The only ones that seems to hold up is the Offset Arc or Offset Arc HD.

That one was the ARC version.

 

[xy9ine]

"only" 29mm, but the mk3 flows are solid. 527g (29"), build up very nicely, have a svelte low profile (bit more compliant), and the stickers come off easily.

 

[Redwood Mulch Chucker]

I've been running these for a while with zero issues. https://praxiscycles.com/product/al32-rim/
32mm internal width, offset spoke bed, they come with nice tubeless ready reusable rim strips. No tape needed.
Maxxis tires installed and seated multiple times with just the floor pump.

Only a few rocks around these parts so can't help too much with that.

 

[Happymtb.fr]

Do an xm481 front @ 30mm
Ritchie rude was riding them with 28 spokes.... he probably buckled one and quit, but your not ritchie rude right?
And a ex471 rear @ 25mm

That's my go to set up on my enduro bike, just with 32 spokes everywhere...
I found that a little bit on the heavy duty side of things for trail riding. But that might be just me?

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Thanks folks! I think I have decided on some MK3's w/ some silver onyx hubs.

 

[slyfink]

Forgot to mention earlier that I've run Stan's rims successfully many times, but my main issue with them is how thin the sidewall is, which leads to more frequent cuts in tire sidewalls from pinch flats and possibly being easier to dent.

 

[englertracing]

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That's my go to set up on my enduro bike, just with 32 spokes everywhere...
I found that a little bit on the heavy duty side of things for trail riding. But that might be just me?

you have the 30mm/25mm combo?
if you wanted to lighten it up perhaps 1.5mm front spokes, and xm421 25mm rear w/1.8 spokes would be suitable