Lightish 29" Alloy Rims?
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OG Onyx or the newer Vesper's?
Yes, 30mm xm481 at the front and 25mm ex471 at the rear.
For lighter duty I have Newmen xa25 front and rear with 28 light butted spokes. The rims are quite ding-resistant but I have to check the spokes tension regularly...
Well, I'm currently riding a mullet set-up, so I suppose 2 different rim widths should be a consideration too.
Salamat!
What are your thoughts on the mixed widths?
I haven't think about it too much to be honest. It is just that a xm481 is on the weak side for a rear wheel so that I compromised a little on width and went for a sturdier ex471.
I've had no issues with a 2.5 WT DHF, 2.4 WT DHRII and 2.5 Assguy on a 27" EX471 in the front. I don't run inserts. But I am not the best at cornering or weighting the front, so moving to 30mm up front is a priority for me. On the rear I'm totally happy with 25mm inner.
I'd like to point out something I noticed going from 25 to 30mm front and rear.
I think the U shape being more supportive also by the same amount makes small bump sensitivity
worse........
I think the U shape being more supportive also by the same amount makes small bump sensitivity
worse........
I am deciding between the mk3 or a 35 mm inner width rim for a 29 front wheel for a mullet hardtail. Those are the rims I can easily get at a friend's shop. I already have a 2.5 Assegai and maxxis tires are relatively cheap over here but I'm also thinking of trying a wider tire in the future. The mk3 is cheaper as it came off a barely used bike.
I can't really see a reason to go w/ the OG at this point, the only downside to those was always the weight and the Vesper corrected that. Most likely vesper...
I'm definitely interested in Vesper's potentially for a future build. I was also looking at the upcoming Box One Stealth hubs, but they're a little heavier. However, I don't think they'd have the slip issues which Vespers can sometimes have under stronger riders in steeper terrain.
I have a OG onyx on my other bike and it is probably one of the single best component purchases I've made. The silence and instant engagement changes the experience for me, esp when I am riding solo...Everything is dead quiet only the sound of tires on the dirt.
I've heard tales of slipping with the Vespers as well, but also haven't seen many in the wild so hard to get a sense for how prolific the issue is for most guys.
Onyx does make a Cam Zink version of the hub which appears to be somewhere in-between the OG and Vesper in terms of weight. I took advantage of Onyx's old partnership with NOBL to buy one of the NOBL hubs, which had additional machining that not only looks nice, but drops another 40-50 grams or so over the OG. No price increase (actually, cheaper in my case), but not sure they can be found anymore. I've honestly never had a hub perform as well as this thing, 2 full seasons later and the bearings are still perfect. It's insane.
Major pro for the Vesper btw is the lack of microspline compatibility for the older model.
This is interesting feedback, I wasn't aware that the zink model was different in anyway. I think I am going to get silver regardless so that might be something to look at. I also had not heard of the slippage w/ the vesper, need to do some thinking, weight is def a concern of mine w/ my new wheels.
Vesper also have less fancy bearings.
I need another pair of wheels for my gravgrav bike, just haven't decided on rims.
I need another pair of wheels for my gravgrav bike, just haven't decided on rims.
I'm just going on empty beer, wheel forum chatter. I haven't looked for a while so it might just have been early models.
I think I agree with this sentiment. Unless you lower tire pressure. But then you get more rim strikes if you ride fast and hard. I'm not sure Im totally sold.