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...and I thought us guys only suffered from PMS thanks to the women in our lives...

Study shows men also suffer from PMS
London Evening Standard | 10 September 2004 | Elizabeth Hopkirk

Stomach cramps, mood swings and hot flushes. Yes, it's that time of the month again.

But these are symptoms reported by men, not women. New research suggests men suffer from pre-menstrual-style symptoms, in some cases as badly as women.

The news is bound to be greeted with snorts of cynicism by most females.

But the study published today shows that the majority of men claim to suffer from a range of symptoms most usually associated with pre-menstrual syndrome (PMS).

Dr Aimee Aubeeluck of the University of Derby, who carried out the study, said: "We asked 50 men and 50 women lots of questions about symptoms normally associated with PMS and we found men actually scored higher than women in everything apart from water retention."

The men admitted to feeling antisocial and suffering poor concentration; depression; lack of arousal; hot flushes and pain - including stomach cramps, back pain and headaches. The team believes that the reason that men complained more than women may be because of their alleged lack of forbearance when it comes to illness.

Dr Aubeeluck, who is presenting her findings to the British Psychological Society conference today, said: "There is some evidence to suggest that pain thresholds differ between men and women so it could just be perception of pain.

"It could be women experience more pain but don't give it as much attention.

"When you are asking people to rate their experiences it is a little bit subjective." What causes the men's symptoms is, at present, a mystery. They may be triggered by stress but Dr Aubeeluck said the findings were significant enough to warrant further research.

She and colleague Joanne Worsey will now study couples over several months to discover if symptoms are cyclical for both men and women.

She said: "If men are experiencing big changes in mood, surely that should be addressed.

"While some may be coping, others may be wondering why they feel so down.

"It's really important for men that if they are suffering they feel they can talk about it and seek treatment."

The suggestion that men suffer from a form of PMS is bound to divide opinion - as has the theory of the male menopause.

Many doctors, including some British specialists, believe middle-aged men experience a sudden fall in testosterone - a hormone responsible for sex drive, sperm production and muscle tone.

However, a American study said that those who complain of hot flushes, excessive sweating, depression and a lack of sex drive are probably suffering the side effects of being overweight, lazy, smoking and drinking too much.

More than 50 per cent of men in their fifties are thought to suffer lethargy, lack of interest in sex, mood swings and even hot flushes, all of which could be caused by a lack of testosterone.

Yet in the study, of 1,700 men from Massachusetts, testosterone was found to decline very gradually with age, at about one per cent a year. The team concluded it was their unhealthy lifestyle that caused the unpleasant symptoms.
 

SkaredShtles

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N8 said:
...and I thought us guys only suffered from PMS thanks to the women in our lives...

Study shows men also suffer from PMS
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Dr Aimee Aubeeluck of the University of Derby, who carried out the study, said: "We asked 50 metrosexuals and 50 women lots of questions about symptoms normally associated with PMS and we found men actually scored higher than women in everything apart from water retention."
Well, duh. :D

-S.S.-
 

tmx

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Not news to me. With the moon ruling the tides and gravity's pull along with human bodies being made up of something like 60% water, it makes perfect sense.
 

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tmx said:
Not news to me. With the moon ruling the tides and gravity's pull along with human bodies being made up of something like 60% water, it makes perfect sense.

I hope you're joking, cause I always laugh when I hear people say this. Do you think the moon has some sort of magnetic attraction to just water or something? Also, in your scenario, wouldnt standing on top of a mountain (ie. less gravity just like a moon rotation) trigger man's PMS too?

I'll give you a hint...NO!
 

tmx

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Really Burly? I'm pretty sure there are some fairly significant complications to the human body when they reach high altitudes. But you go ahead and have your laugh at my absurd conclusions.
 

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tmx said:
Really Burly? I'm pretty sure there are some fairly significant complications to the human body when they reach high altitudes. But you go ahead and have your laugh at my absurd conclusions.

I did, thanks.

EDIT: And to adress about the altitudes...lack of gravity really has nothing to do with it. Perhaps lack of oxygen, but thats not really the case when the moon passes by at full is it? Think astronauts? Are they all PMSing?
 

BurlyShirley

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tmx said:
Yes they are.

Riiiiiiiigggghht.

And a question also, do all women menstruate according to the tides in their areas? I just dont buy your moon-pull theory a bit.
 

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BurlySurly said:
Riiiiiiiigggghht.

And a question also, do all women menstruate according to the tides in their areas? I just dont buy your moon-pull theory a bit.
Can't speak for the lot of them, but not me. Don't really feel like talking to you about my menstrual cycle and I'm not selling my moon-pull theory, so try not to worry too much about not buying it.
 

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BurlySurly said:
well, just helping you understand that it mad no sense. glad i could help. good day.
There are many schools who do buy into that type of theory. It has some logic to it, if the moon effects water there is no reason it couldn't have some effect on us.
Seeing how your in college i expect more open minded thinking from you. Oh that's right you're just a good ol' boy who likes country music and apple pie. My bad.
 

BurlyShirley

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Lexx D said:
There are many schools who do buy into that type of theory. It has some logic to it, if the moon effects water there is no reason it couldn't have some effect on us.
Seeing how your in college i expect more open minded thinking from you. Oh that's right you're just a good ol' boy who likes country music and apple pie. My bad.
If you could read, I just PROVED that the theory was bunk.
Open mindedness does not equal ignoring facts.
 

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BurlySurly said:
If you could read, I just PROVED that the theory was bunk.
Open mindedness does not equal ignoring facts.
No i can't read, you sure got me. You didn't "PROVE" anything wrong, you just used you simple country ass logic to make yourself feel better about the way things work.
 

BurlyShirley

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Lexx D said:
No i can't read, you sure got me. You didn't "PROVE" anything wrong, you just used you simple country ass logic to make yourself feel better about the way things work.
Actually I used what we call deductive reasoning and science little fella. People from Chicago like myself always use "simple country ass logic" though. Present some evidence in support of your view or can it. I win.
 

Lexx D

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BurlySurly said:
Actually I used what we call deductive reasoning and science little fella. People from Chicago like myself always use "simple country ass logic" though. Present some evidence in support of your view or can it. I win.
But if you actually knew anything about logic you'd know that because of variables there is no absolutes. You can't use logic in something we may not understand.
Just as some people believe in christianity some people believe in things like how the moon can change people mood, energy, etc..... Besides ask anyone who works with little kids the worst days happen to be full moons. Where's the logic to that? There is none, difference is I accept it and move on with my day while you badger people about it.
 

BurlyShirley

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Lexx D said:
But if you actually knew anything about logic you'd know that because of variables there is no absolutes. You can't use logic in something we may not understand.
You're missing the point. We do actually understand and things have been scientifically proven. You've yet to even mention ONE of these variables AND if you cant argue something LOGICALLY, that's the equivalent of calling something MAGIC and forgetting about it, THEREFORE you're the one who needs to OPEN HIS MIND and take in FACTS instead of whatever you're making decisions on, or choosing not to make decisions on. Its lazy, pure and simple.