stosh said:Just looking for a good chili recipe for the fall.
Something simple would be awesome.
Whats the difference then I'll tell ya.N8 said:You want to make chili or chile..???
There's a difference.
There's a *BIG* difference.N8 said:You want to make chili or chile..???
There's a difference.
Do you have a crock-pot?stosh said:Just looking for a good chili recipe for the fall.
Something simple would be awesome.
Be sure to get chuck beef. Don't bother with expensive cuts it'll ruin both the chili and the meat. Stew beef works great.Chiarello Chocolate Chili Con Carne Recipe courtesy Michael Chiarello
Recipe Summary
Difficulty: Medium
Prep Time: 40 minutes
Cook Time: 2 hours
Yield: 10 to 12 servings
User Rating:
3 pounds beef chuck
Freshly ground black pepper
Gray salt
1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon, plus 1 teaspoon
1 teaspoon ground cumin, plus 2 teaspoons
2 tablespoons chili powder, plus 2 tablespoons
Masa harina (Mexican corn flour)
1/2 cup extra-virgin olive oil
1/4 cup lard (Manteca)
4 red onions, peeled and minced
6 cloves garlic, minced
4 jalapeno peppers, sliced thin with seeds, stems removed
1/4 cup tomato paste
2 teaspoons dried oregano
2 to 3 (12-ounce) bottles beer
1 (12-ounce) can diced tomato in juices
1 quart chicken stock
3 (12-ounce) cans black beans
2 ounces bittersweet chocolate, cut into large chunks
Cut the chuck into ¾-inch pieces, or, to save time, have your butcher do this for you. Place the chuck in a large bowl. Season liberally with pepper (about 20 turns of the pepper grinder) and grey salt to taste remember half of this will come off in the pan. Season with 1/2 teaspoon of the cinnamon, 1 teaspoon of the cumin, and 2 tablespoons of the chili powder. Mix this well and coat the meat with the masa harina (this is a ground hominy flour common to Mexican cuisine and easily found in the Mexican food sections of many grocery stores). The flour will thicken the sauce and give it a specific, Mexican taste.
Preheat a cast iron Dutch oven on the stove over medium high heat. Add the olive oil and then the coated meat, spreading it evenly so it covers the bottom of the Dutch oven in 1 layer. Leave it alone, without turning it, so the meat will brown and caramelize. Meanwhile, add the lard. The meat has a lot of moisture in it, so a good amount of steam will come from the pan before it is caramelized. As it browns, slowly turn each piece with tongs. Once all sides are caramelized, remove the meat from the pan with a slotted spoon and place on a cookie sheet to cool, leaving juices in the Dutch oven to saute vegetables. Add the onions and garlic and saute for 5 minutes over medium heat until they start to caramelize and get soft. Add the jalapenos and allow to cook for 2 more minutes until soft. Add the tomato paste. Some of the same spices as were used on the meat will be used in the sauce. Add the remaining 2 teaspoons of the cumin, 1 teaspoon of the cinnamon, the oregano, and 2 heaping tablespoons of the chili powder. Add beer. Stir to incorporate everything. Add diced tomatoes, and stir. Then add the reserved meat. Add chicken stock. Simmer for 1 1/2 hours until meat is wonderfully tender. Strain juice from the black beans, add the beans to the chili pot and bring up to simmer. Then add chunks of bittersweet chocolate. Stir until it melts. Serve immediately or store in the refrigerator for 2 to 3 days.
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Chile is a pepper (or the country)SkaredShtles said:There's a *BIG* difference.
Chili sucks, IMO.
Chile, on the other hand......
Out here chile is that heavenly stuff that smothers a good breakfast burrito.Tenchiro said:Chile is a pepper (or the country)
Chili is, well chili.
Please elaborateSkaredShtles said:Out here chile is that heavenly stuff that smothers a good breakfast burrito.
Chili is that Texan stuff.
Chile = yummy goodness made from red or green chile.Crazy Sweeper said:Please elaborate
what's the difference between 'normal' chili and cincinnatti? to my knowlege the main difference is that cincinnatti is served on spagetthi (sp?)? it's still a red chilli though, correct?caboverpete said:I recommend just doing a search on White Chicken Chili or Cincinnatti Chili.
caboverpete said:The main differences in the Cincinnati chili i have made has been serving it on spagetti and using cinnamon and cocoa along with the standard chili spices.
There are a few other differences as well. I actually have the "Skyline Cincinnati Chili Recipe" at home. I'll post it up later.caboverpete said:The main differences in the Cincinnati chili i have made has been serving it on spagetti and using cinnamon and cocoa along with the standard chili spices.
Ive always seen it as 1 way being just chili and then starting your list as 2 way. Whichever way it goes I like mine with the works.TreeSaw said:There are a few other differences as well. I actually have the "Skyline Cincinnati Chili Recipe" at home. I'll post it up later.
Cincinnati Chili is served in "way"
1 way - just the sauce over spaghetti
2 way - sauce over spaghetti with shredded cheddar cheese on top
3 way - sauce over spaghetti with shredded cheddar & diced onions
4 way - sauce over spaghetti w/shredded cheddar, onions, & beans
It's actually quite tasty and freezes very well. It also makes a tasty topping for hotdogs.
1 way being just the sauce...that could be right. I always serve mine with spaghetti so my #s could be a little off.caboverpete said:Ive always seen it as 1 way being just chili and then starting your list as 2 way. Whichever way it goes I like mine with the works.
asides from being served on spaghetti, the rest of the ways are the same as any other chilli. or even a baked potatoe for that matter.....TreeSaw said:There are a few other differences as well. I actually have the "Skyline Cincinnati Chili Recipe" at home. I'll post it up later.
Cincinnati Chili is served in "way"
1 way - just the sauce over spaghetti
2 way - sauce over spaghetti with shredded cheddar cheese on top
3 way - sauce over spaghetti with shredded cheddar & diced onions
4 way - sauce over spaghetti w/shredded cheddar, onions, & beans
It's actually quite tasty and freezes very well. It also makes a tasty topping for hotdogs.
I guess that's a Texas / New Mexico thing. In most parts of the US, chili has lots of flavor and it generally varies a little depending on the part of the country you are in. Chili is definitely not a normal soup, at least in consistency, when done correctly. It should be a thick, slow cooked food where you taste the ingredients used, not drown them out with crazy hot peppers. Spicy food should allow you to taste the food first, then the heat. Not just blast the $hit out of you, and take away your ability to breathe.N8 said:Chili = Chili, at least in New Mexico, refers to a nasty Texas soup, prepared with diced or ground beef and chili powder and where it's bland tastelessness is disguised with heat. See Hormel chili & beans...
A good green chile stew blows away any chili, IMO. Personal preference, though, I suppose. Rum raisin ice cream and all that.berkshire_rider said:I guess that's a Texas / New Mexico thing. In most parts of the US, chili has lots of flavor and it generally varies a little depending on the part of the country you are in. Chili is definitely not a normal soup, at least in consistency, when done correctly. It should be a thick, slow cooked food where you taste the ingredients used, not drown them out with crazy hot peppers. Spicy food should allow you to taste the food first, then the heat. Not just blast the $hit out of you, and take away your ability to breathe.
Recipie? I would like to establish some concrete proof - IE make some myself. I could search the interent for a "green chile stew" recipie, but if someone has a good one, feel free to pass it along. Maybe my mexican cook book has one. Have to check later.SkaredShtles said:A good green chile stew blows away any chili, IMO. Personal preference, though, I suppose. Rum raisin ice cream and all that.
There's almost nothing better tasting than some nice fire-roasted green chiles......berkshire_rider said:I like food to have flavor, as well as heat - also a personal preference. However, I don't like raisins. :eviltongu
berkshire_rider said:Recipie? I would like to establish some concrete proof - IE make some myself. I could search the interent for a "green chile stew" recipie, but if someone has a good one, feel free to pass it along. Maybe my mexican cook book has one. Have to check later.
I like food to have flavor, as well as heat - also a personal preference. However, I don't like raisins. :eviltongu
It has a bit different flavor than regular chili. I'll 2nd the cornbread though...I love it!pnj said:asides from being served on spaghetti, the rest of the ways are the same as any other chilli. or even a baked potatoe for that matter.....
where's the corn bread?
TreeSaw said:It has a bit different flavor than regular chili. I'll 2nd the cornbread though...I love it!
Yeah. Today! I *got* to try those calabacitas...........N8 said:Dood... there is a link in my thread that you quoted... but here is another: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Green+Chile+Stew&btnG=Google+Search
While it is hard to beat green chile stew... menudo is very, very good! All you need is some tripe (sheep or beef stomach) and you are on your way!
Link: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=menudo+stew&spell=1
Hey SS, you eat at Little Anita's this week? Their calabacitas es muy bueno!
Now that does sound good!!!!Tenchiro said:I put chili in the bottom of a dutch oven and get it super hot in like a 350deg oven, then pour cornmeal batter over the top and then bake it. It is like heaven in a cast iron pan.
SkaredShtles said:Yeah. Today! I *got* to try those calabacitas...........
Thanks, you realize you're like the KING OF NO HELP!Yeah - make chile, not chili.
So who *is* the King of No Help?Thanks, you realize you're like the KING OF NO HELP!