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Lori Berenson, the american chick doing a sentence on terrorism on peru

ALEXIS_DH

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so, this was a lot in the news a few months ago.
i watched a loooong report on tv a few days ago...

she was found guilty on her second trial too.
the first, like 9 years ago, was nuled because of undue process and the use of a military court.

whats you guys opinion on the matter?

The MIT girl, who wandered in el salvador where she joined a communist revolutionary group. then went to peru to be a "freelance reporter" where she joined the Marxist group Tupac Amaru, infamous for their attack on the Japanese embassy in Lima. Lori rented "La Molina", the 3-floor house where the group leaders stayed and kept their ammunition and military grade guns for 9 months until her arrest.
Using her American citizenship and press credentials, she went inside the building of the Peruvian Congress to obtain information on the layout for a future attack.

Lori was arrested in a bus while travelling with the wife of Nestor Cerpa, the leader of Tupac Amaru. Her arrest, along with the discovery of handwritten maps of the Peruvian Congress building forced the Tupac Amaru to change plans and hit the Japanese embassy instead. (Unfortunately, the police discovered only 2 numbers in her beeper and could not prevent the terrorist attack - It is very curious why Lori would carry a BEEPER with her in Lima, in the early '90s.) One of the first demands that Tupac Amaru had in order to free the hostages on the Japanese embassy was the release of Lori Berenson along with about 20 other imprisoned terrorists.

The prison conditions where Lori is held are primitive compared to the luxury offered in US prisons but are similar to most other countries. Trial procedures vary considerably. In Peru, judges who preside on terrorist trials have to be hooded to escape assasinations by terrorist groups like those against judges in Italy and Germany.

The American government has not intervened on Lori's behalf because as it has been widely reported in the news, they have undisputable information that Lori Berenson was indeed participating in terrorist activities in Latin America. (Tupac Amaru along with the Shining Path have been designated "Foreign Terrorist Organizations" by the U.S. Secretary of State in October 1997. Their terrorist activities caused the death of 30,000 Peruvians, left hundred of thousands orphaned or homeless and destroyed public and private property estimated at US$ 25 billion. They were responsible for continual assassinations, bombings, kidnappings, extortion, robberies and attacks.) Furthermore, when Lori is released could face charges in the US that she violated the Logan Act that prohibits US citizens from interfering with foreign government activities in their countries, without permission from the US government. Credible media - Wall Street Journal, Village Voice, CBS etc- looked into Lori's case and found strong evidence that proved her guilt.



a site by her parents advocating her liberation
http://www.freelori.org/

an old article from the wall street journal, from before her new trial that makes a good point
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/tvaradarajan/?id=65000350
 

Zark

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My opinion? She sounds like a terrorist that is getting punished. Let her rot in jail.
 

ALEXIS_DH

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i was wondering whats the impresion of her in other latitudes.

i live close to the US embassy, i remember seeing a few pro-free-berenson-signs people around by the time of the 2nd trial, a a few others on tv asking for the same thing.
 

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ALEXIS_DH said:
i was wondering whats the impresion of her in other latitudes.

i live close to the US embassy, i remember seeing a few pro-free-berenson-signs people around by the time of the 2nd trial, a a few others on tv asking for the same thing.
Keep her in Peru.
 

HarryCallahan

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Kinda seems like she's where she belongs. I remember reading about her back when she was granted the new trial. I would imagine the publicity got her a more fair trial than she would have otherwise. She doesn't seem like someone due much sympathy, in as much as she's had plenty of chances to disavow the charges against her. Instead, if you read her writings, she sort of tap dances around the charges, or raises issues with whether she should be in prison because she didn't get what she considers due process. Given the conditions in Peru at the time she was originally arrested, she's lucky she didn't just get shot in the head and dumped in a ditch somewhere.

The web site in support of her states she's a poliitcal prisoner. Well, yeah, you could say conspiring to overthrow a country's government is political. :nopity:
 

ALEXIS_DH

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Silver said:
You'd know better than us: Are anti-terrorism trials in Peru kangaroo courts, or are the legit?

in an strict sense (according to my dad and sister who are lawyers), terrorism trials from that time violate the due process thingy.

with the hooded judges and civilians in military courts. but one must remember it was "war time" declared by law, and the use of hooded military judges was a widespread and regular meassure to protect judges from getting whacked after convicting terrorists.

But she got a 2nd civilian trial under the eye of the Inter-American Human Rights Court. she was found guilty as well.

what i find interesting is the fact that the US ambassador has pushed for her liberation, and that even GWB in his last visit to Peru had the topic on his agenda in his conversations with the local President.
after 9/11 it kinda settled down, but before it, the US embassy in Lima pushed a lot and hard for her liberation or transfer to US soil, and i see the same campaign on some parts of the US media.
based on basically the anulation of all charges because of the violation of undue process.

We got the crappy Civil Law system, which unlike the US common Law, allows you to get out of jail based on technicalities on the interpretation of written law.