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Jr_Bullit

Jr_Bullit

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Over the past few days I've read about various resignations going on at the top - pretty standard when a new administration begins....

This morning I read about Colin Powell submitting his resignation (NYTimes - front page)

Over the weekend I read about 4 top CIA officials resigning

What do you guys think of these folks leaving the ship that just got reelected?
 
Skookum

Skookum

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Being a moderate in that administration for his job would have sucked. Trying to sell crap to other countries like it was roses is a difficult task. But he did his job well to me ,i gave the administration the benefit of the doubt trusting his words when there was talk of wmd's in Iraq.
 
Jr_Bullit

Jr_Bullit

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I tend to agree as well - and as for Gen. Powell, I'm personally pleased and sorry (simultaneously) to see him leave the administration - as he is one of the individuals who's leadership and experience is on a level above the rest. Unfortunately, I also think that he was one of the best parts of the administration.

What do the conservatives, die-hard repubs think of his leaving? Do you believe there is someone better to take his place? What about the 4 CIA guys?
 
biggins

biggins

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didnt rumsfeld leave as well? i think they all got tired of being the scapegoat for the bush administration is what hapened. as for powell he is just gonna take a break before he runs for president.
 
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biggins said:
didnt rumsfeld leave as well? i think they all got tired of being the scapegoat for the bush administration is what hapened. as for powell he is just gonna take a break before he runs for president.
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Except Rummy...
He WAS the bush administration.
BUSH can't think for himself, DUH?
;)
 
biggins

biggins

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Except Rummy...
He WAS the bush administration.
BUSH can't think for himself, DUH?
;)
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where do ya think cheney comes into the situation..........geez, friggin newbie
 
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narlus said:
powell'ss leaving was a given, i think. he got jobbed.
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Word. Powell was gone months ago. He was valuable as a moderate voice in the administration and has widespread appeal to Democrats, Republicans, whites and minorities. They couldn't just fire him, as it would have been too noisy and unpopular. Still, he was a lame duck for the last while.
 
N8 v2.0

N8 v2.0

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This isn't anything new... Clinton had to replace something like 9(?) cabinet members for his 2nd term... Nixon replaced his entire cabinet...
 
Slugman

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N8 said:
This isn't anything new... Clinton had to replace something like 9(?) cabinet members for his 2nd term... Nixon replaced his entire cabinet...
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Why is it always about Clinton with you? Nixon replaced 8, which was cited as the 'highest" in the range from the article below...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=adNySj7iYidQ&refer=top_world_news
Since World War II, the number of Cabinet positions that changed near the start of a president's second term range from three under Dwight Eisenhower, to eight under Richard Nixon and seven under Ronald Reagan, Charles O. Jones, a senior fellow at the Washington-based Brookings Institution said.
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Jr_Bullit

Jr_Bullit

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Alright, but what about all the CIA officials leaving..that does seem odd that a chunk of senior CIA guys are all leaving.
 
N8 v2.0

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Jr_Bullit said:
Alright, but what about all the CIA officials leaving..that does seem odd that a chunk of senior CIA guys are all leaving.
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Well with all the CIA failures of late I think that it isn't such a bad thing actually.
 
DRB

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Jr_Bullit said:
Alright, but what about all the CIA officials leaving..that does seem odd that a chunk of senior CIA guys are all leaving.
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It really has nothing to do with the election but the new Director of the CIA Porter Goss. He was big part of the 9-11 investigations and the call for massive reform at the CIA. He has been critical of the agency, saying it has “ignored its core mission” and is in “dysfunctional denial of any need for corrective action.” He as said numerous times that the human intelligence assets available to the CIA are laughable, so it is not strange that the first people he comes into conflict with are the top folks in Operations.

Goss was a CIA employee in the 60's and early 70's, working a great deal with Cuban exiles in Miami. He started soon after the Bay of Pigs.
 
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