[OGRipper]

Looking at either go-ride or Risse lowrider crowns for an 8" 888. I did a search but haven't seen anything recent and am curious about durability of one v. the other and the comparative effect of each. Anyone had any problems with either of 'tm?

And is it true that the Go-ride set will lower the front about 1/2" more than Risse?

The go-ride set-up is $300 for upper and lower crowns and I'll still need to buy another stem, whereas for $200 I can get the full Risse set and use the Marz stem.

Also, I saw this on the Go-ride website: "If you don't mind your handlebars being very high you might not need the upper crown." Since the stock and aftermarket upper crowns sit right on top of the headset, why would the upper crown effect bar height, all things being equal with the lowers? Can I get the same bar height by using the go-ride lower and the stock upper crown (and the stock stem) to save about $150 for the upper crown and a stem?

 

[RhinofromWA]

I think it has to do with where the Upper crown mounts on the fork tube. James will be able to answer this for you, but their might be a set clamping area designated that the stock upper crown wouldn't be able to reach unless you put ~2"s of spacers uner teh upper crown to correct it....making yoru bars higher in the process.

Rhino

 

[kidwoo]

You can use the marz stem on the go-ride crowns.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

You can use the marz stem on the go-ride crowns.

as well as the risse

 

[Brian HCM#1]

I don't think its a 1/2" different, you need to keep the Risse about 3mm above the min line thats as much as I know. I've been using the Risse's with great results and the price is right on them too.

 

[OGRipper]

Sweet, thanks for the info, I either just missed it or is wasn't clear from the pics that I can use the stock stem with the go-ride crowns.

I'm pretty sure I'll need a full set either way.

If they both lower the front end about the same and both seem to work fine, is there any reason to spend more for the go-ride set? No offense to Go-ride, but all things being equal I'd rather have an extra $100 to spend on...other bike parts, some of which I'll probably get from go-ride anyway!

So is there any real difference between the two other than aesthetics and the Risse bolt-on steerer? Weight? Strength? Or I am I just over-thinking...?

 

[Zack]

Don't putting on those crowns end Marzocchi's warranty coverage on the fork? Has anybody ever had any problems with that?

 

[Dartman]

If you are using the Go-ride lower crown to correct for a tall headtube stack height don't get the upper. I have it on a large M1 with a 5.5" headtube. It fits fine with the stock upper.

Mike

 

[kidwoo]

Sweet, thanks for the info, I either just missed it or is wasn't clear from the pics that I can use the stock stem with the go-ride crowns.

I'm pretty sure I'll need a full set either way.

If they both lower the front end about the same and both seem to work fine, is there any reason to spend more for the go-ride set? No offense to Go-ride, but all things being equal I'd rather have an extra $100 to spend on...other bike parts, some of which I'll probably get from go-ride anyway!

So is there any real difference between the two other than aesthetics and the Risse bolt-on steerer? Weight? Strength? Or I am I just over-thinking...?

The lower risse crowns smack the "m" arch on the lowers if you go too low. You can therefore get the crown lower on the stantions with the go ride ones. And yeah, both sets void the warranty.

 

[DßR]

FWIW, when I was in Whistler a couple weeks ago I saw Schley with a 888 sportin' some low-rise crowns. They looked like Marz. crowns and they looked to be forged. Perhaps a non-warranty-voiding solution is in the works.....

 

[punkassean]

Carlin has a set of CNC'ed low rider crowns made by Marzocchi on his 888 right now that Tom put on up at Whistler. They are the protoype model from what Bryson told Carlin. I haven't seen any forged low rider crowns though?

 

[me89]

well it sounds to me that you need to go with the risse. i dont know much about them but for a 100 bucks less i think it wouldnt be to hard to avoid hittin the arch thats kinda far down on the fork. maybee i miss understood but just tryin to help out a fellow biker in need. and just to be curious what kinda frame you got that 888 on. :dancing:

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Sweet, thanks for the info, I either just missed it or is wasn't clear from the pics that I can use the stock stem with the go-ride crowns.

I'm pretty sure I'll need a full set either way.

If they both lower the front end about the same and both seem to work fine, is there any reason to spend more for the go-ride set? No offense to Go-ride, but all things being equal I'd rather have an extra $100 to spend on...other bike parts, some of which I'll probably get from go-ride anyway!

So is there any real difference between the two other than aesthetics and the Risse bolt-on steerer? Weight? Strength? Or I am I just over-thinking...?

The Risse's can hurt your knees, if you're not wearing knee/shin pads. The reason for the price difference is Risse does all there machining in house and Go-Ride subs it out. Risse makes crowns, forks, shocks etc for a living while Go-Ride is a retailer. There is your price difference.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

well it sounds to me that you need to go with the risse. i dont know much about them but for a 100 bucks less i think it wouldnt be to hard to avoid hittin the arch thats kinda far down on the fork. maybee i miss understood but just tryin to help out a fellow biker in need. and just to be curious what kinda frame you got that 888 on. :dancing:

Like I said, just keep it 3mm above the min line and you'll clear it no prob. and 3mm is not a lot and should have no effect on the geometry.

 

[kidwoo]

FWIW, when I was in Whistler a couple weeks ago I saw Schley with a 888 sportin' some low-rise crowns. They looked like Marz. crowns and they looked to be forged. Perhaps a non-warranty-voiding solution is in the works.....

He had the go-ride ones when I saw him. They also sponsor him to use them. The ones you saw didn't look like mine?

 

[Kntr]

Get the Go-ride crowns or wait for the Marz crowns which will be out very soon. The GR crowns lower the fork more than the Risse crowns by about 3-5mm. I know that is not very much but the entire point to the new crowns is to lower the front end right? Plus the Risse crowns have the bolt heads to hit your knees on like Brian HCM#1 said.

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Get the Go-ride crowns or wait for the Marz crowns which will be out very soon. The GR crowns lower the fork more than the Risse crowns by about 3-5mm. I know that is not very much but the entire point to the new crowns is to lower the front end right? Plus the Risse crowns have the bolt heads to hit your knees on like Brian HCM#1 said.

I say save the $150 and get the Risse, most everyone wears knee/shin pads when they ride so its not an issue.

 

[Espen]

The G-R crowns looks much better!


E

 

[joelsman]

I have the risse and they work great, My sponsor(dropnzone.com) sells risse so I got them at cost.

 

[James | Go-Ride]

Our crowns do sit about 4mm lower than the Risse crowns do, due to the afore-mentioned arch/crown contact problem. I think that's worth $100 right there Seriously though, the Risse crowns seem pretty solid but they don't have as much material as ours do. Not that I'm implying Risse didn't do their homework with their crowns, but it's something to think about. I don't want to open this huge can of worms again, but I'm definitely not a fan of bolt-on steerer tubes. There's an awful lot of load on the the interface between the lower crown and the steerer, and I'll take the extra strength of the press-in versus being able to get your race off a little easier any day. Risse fans, please refrain from throwing fruit at me, I'm not trying to spam the board up, just voicing my opinion.

As for Richie and Wade, they were running our crowns for a while. I've heard they've got Marz crowns now. I don't know that the forks will come with those exact crowns next year, or that they'll even be available. Going to machined crowns will bump the price of the fork up about $100 retail. This is all just speculation, who knows what will actually happen with that.

Bienvenidos al USS Homestarrunner.com! Conoces a Miguel? Si, somos buenos amigos.

 

[sirbikealot]

you might want to check out another option
dangerboy.ca is selling inverted stems that knock off a considerable amount of height from the front end
they aren't on the site yet, they just finished the first batch but give em a call, great product for the $$

 

[Acadian]

you might want to check out another option
dangerboy.ca is selling inverted stems that knock off a considerable amount of height from the front end
they aren't on the site yet, they just finished the first batch but give em a call, great product for the $$

is it one that uses the direct mount on the 888 crown? lenght?

 

[James | Go-Ride]

That's not going to actually lower the front end of the bike at all though, only the handlebar height. Granted that's a good thing, but you are still running an 8" fork that is an inch taller than it needs to be so the handling issues aren't going to be resolved.

 

[Acadian]

That's not going to actually lower the front end of the bike at all though, only the handlebar height. Granted that's a good thing, but you are still running an 8" fork that is an inch taller than it needs to be so the handling issues aren't going to be resolved.

what is the head angle of the El Cuervo with the 8" 888/Go-Ride crowns?

 

[James | Go-Ride]

65.5' with 26 x 2.5 Minion F tires front and rear.

 

[Acadian]

65.5' with 26 x 2.5 Minion F tires front and rear.

static?

thanks for the info...BTW, check your e-mail

 

[Brian HCM#1]

Our crowns do sit about 4mm lower than the Risse crowns do, due to the afore-mentioned arch/crown contact problem. I think that's worth $100 right there Seriously though, the Risse crowns seem pretty solid but they don't have as much material as ours do. Not that I'm implying Risse didn't do their homework with their crowns, but it's something to think about.

Well not to sound like a di*k, but Risse has been manufacturing there own crown/steerers for over 10 years. I have yet to hear about any failures in there machining/design quality. How long has Go-Ride been developing and machining forks, crowns, steerers etc?

 

[James | Go-Ride]

No that's totally understandable. In our defense though, we did source out production to a company that does machine work for Baja racing cars and trucks, as well as aftermarket crownsets for the 50cc dirtbike craze. We also use the same steerer tube as the stock 888. Plus I don't think Risse has Shaums doing R&D for them . . . just a joke, no hard feelings.

 

[OGRipper]

I really appreciate the input everyone. James, your comment DOES imply that Risse didn't do their homework (or, at least that the Risse set is not as strong as the Go-Ride crowns) and that's not really fair, but you guys are great anyway. Our sport could use more passionate folks like the Go-ride crew.

Hey Brian P, what are your thoughts on the comments here about how using the go-ride or risse crowns will void the warranty and rumors that 'Zoke is making their own lowrider crowns? Are these comments accurate and if so, when will the 'Zoke sets be available and for how much? Will they be standard on '05 product?

 

[Acadian]

and rumors that 'Zoke is making their own lowrider crowns? Are these comments accurate and if so, when will the 'Zoke sets be available and for how much? Will they be standard on '05 product?

I did see them when I was in Whistler - but I don't know when or even if they will be available.

 

[Brian Peterson]

Hey Brian P, what are your thoughts on the comments here about how using the go-ride or risse crowns will void the warranty and rumors that 'Zoke is making their own lowrider crowns? Are these comments accurate and if so, when will the 'Zoke sets be available and for how much? Will they be standard on '05 product?

It looks like we will have our own lower crowns available soon. I don't have any estimate on pricing or availability right now. I do not believe they will be a standard item with the forks.

As for the warranty situation, anytime you start using non-factory parts, you may void your warranty. If the problem is found to be related to the non-factory parts, prepare to pay up.

Brian

 

[OGRipper]

Fair enough Brian, thanks for the quick response.

 

[DßR]

He had the go-ride ones when I saw him. They also sponsor him to use them. The ones you saw didn't look like mine?

They looked like the GR crowns but they were raw silver; I saw a few other forks kicking around the Marz. tent with various raw silver crowns..... I kinda assumed he would be using Marz. stuff tho. Obviously the color doesn't mean they weren't GR stuff, but from where I was (a few spots up in the lift line) the crowns had a certain forged appearance to them. I dunno though...