I re-read your post, from a different angle. I think I may agree with you, actually. While I agree with what Manimal is doing, it is too bad that there are/could be children involved. Is that what you were trying to say?
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i see a cali plate, he may not get in as much trouble as everyone else is assuming.
exactly...the guy isn't just growing for himself...so it's a pretty safe bet to say he has some type of distribution going on...I wonder how folks would react if it turned out he was hanging around some local school!...D
The bold part is the significant part to me.
Cops can write a speeding ticket or they can give a warning. There's a degree of freedom here.
He's doing this out of vengence.......just look at the thread title. Personally speaking I would LOVE to just knock on this guy's door and put the fear of god in him. For all this tough guy's talk, I'm sure manimal is a bigger guy physically than this tool is, it would be comedy just to see the little mouse's face when confronted with full manimalness IN a cop uniform.
Oh great.......now he's not even breaking the law
Aside from whether or not it was "cool" for manimal to give this guy the shaft, the fact is that if an officer observes a crime taking place he has a sworn duty to uphold the law. Now we all know that occasionally a cop might see a few people passing a joint at the beach, and look the other way because it's just not that big a deal. But this was a full on grow operation. Pretty hard to just "let it slide".
i didn't "use my job" for anything that a civilian couldn't do. i have no jurisdiction in CA, the ONLY difference is that the vice detective i spoke with knows that i wasn't some pissed off ex-girlfriend trying to get back at the dude. this dude also isn't "pitiful." making tax free money via illegal means is, well, still illegal and i didn't make that choice for him. had it been a dime bag or something who cares but the guy is obviously delving into the "manufacturing" side of the business which usually requires a bit of common sense and knowledge of how not to get caught. also, this is in CA which means that he'll get a slap on the wrist IF he's caught. as far as the kid; from his pics, he SEEMS to be a decently interested father, perhaps this will be the wake-up call he needs. i guess raising a kid amidst secondhand cannabis smoke (pics on his site of the "clambake" ) is all the rage these days but something tells me that it might not be very healthy for the kid. people can recover from emotional issues, not so much from asthma/brain damage.
as far as the comment i posted on his video page, it went something like this: "you find it amusing to wish death on a deployed soldier for having a good time acting like a ninja, yet you get YOUR kicks by doing burnouts in a POS mustang? at least the soldier has the nuts to do something worthwhile with his time."
update: well, there really is no update yet. i'm also on a 3 hour time difference and they have to do their own research on the case so it may/may not happen quickly but i promise to post an update as soon as i find out anything.
I think Manimal said he was just going to do such-and-such, until he saw the grow op.
You didn't mention to the detective that we were all waiting?
Also, having a home grow operation doesn't necessarily mean you are going to federal pound me in the ass prison. A co-worker recently got busted with a bunch of plants - we saw her name in the police blotter. It was actually her boyfriend's stuff.
The cops gave them the option of which of them got the ticket, she took it because he was looking for a job that required background checks. They lost their plants and lights and other stuff. She got a small fine, and the rest of the sentence was suspended.
The cops gave them the option of which of them got the ticket, she took it because he was looking for a job that required background checks. They lost their plants and lights and other stuff. She got a small fine, and the rest of the sentence was suspended.
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opinions are like a**holes everyone's got them the army has a dont ask dont tell policy just so soilders like him and u can join and not get you faggot a**es beat by real men come at me with respect or dont come to me at all it's easy being a computer hard a$& but we can see how hard you a** is after i fill your hard drive with virius's and see how much your wife love's you after they all open up to the porn site's u have been looking at f*** with me and find out faggot i've hacked more stupied fag's for running there mouth then i care to remember so f*** off and have a nice day
Based on the anger, defensiveness, insecurity, and lack of intelligence conveyed in his response would suggest to me that this guy is capable of child abuse, both verbal and physical. The child in question may be better off away from it's current environment. " Tuff guys " like this are often guilty of more than just being stupid and irresponsible. They have the gangsta thug wanna be mentality, which makes them feel that they have something to prove. And that's what makes them dangerous. This observation is not based on conjecture, but first hand experience.
This could be the wake up call that his whole family needs.
Manimal did what he was supposed to do.
opinions are like a**holes everyone's got them the army has a dont ask dont tell policy just so soilders like him and u can join and not get you faggot a**es beat by real men come at me with respect or dont come to me at all it's easy being a computer hard a$& but we can see how hard you a** is after i fill your hard drive with virius's and see how much your wife love's you after they all open up to the porn site's u have been looking at f*** with me and find out faggot i've hacked more stupied fag's for running there mouth then i care to remember so f*** off and have a nice day
Based on the anger, defensiveness, insecurity, and lack of intelligence conveyed in his response would suggest to me that this guy is capable of child abuse, both verbal and physical. The child in question may be better off away from it's current environment. " Tuff guys " like this are often guilty of more than just being stupid and irresponsible. They have the gangsta thug wanna be mentality, which makes them feel that they have something to prove. And that's what makes them dangerous. This observation is not based on conjecture, but first hand experience.
This could be the wake up call that his whole family needs.
Manimal did what he was supposed to do.
i want my dangle shorts back
I think in the beginning this was a "Let me dig up some personal information of his and show him that I am resourceful as well." Manimal didn't seem to be searching for something illegal on the guy. It seemed to be going in the innocent direction that everyone here normally would have taken. Not to mention dissuading this guy from actually following through with all the garbage he was spouting.
I am sure that Manimal wasn't expecting to find what he found, but he did. And as an officer it is his duty by job, not to mention as a father and law abiding citizen, to report what he found to the local authorities. It doesn't sound like he is getting anyone to slam this guy any harder that any other person would be slammed.
It does suck that there is a kid involved, but it sucks that the parents are a$$hats that kept on with illegal operations after they brought a child into this world. Not to mention . . did you see how much pot that was, you don't honestly think that they were what just throwing it all in the freezer for a rainy day do you. Come on.
Lay off Manimal he is doing what is right. That is more than you can say about a lot of officers out there. More people should be like manimal.
I am sure that Manimal wasn't expecting to find what he found, but he did. And as an officer it is his duty by job, not to mention as a father and law abiding citizen, to report what he found to the local authorities. It doesn't sound like he is getting anyone to slam this guy any harder that any other person would be slammed.
It does suck that there is a kid involved, but it sucks that the parents are a$$hats that kept on with illegal operations after they brought a child into this world. Not to mention . . did you see how much pot that was, you don't honestly think that they were what just throwing it all in the freezer for a rainy day do you. Come on.
Lay off Manimal he is doing what is right. That is more than you can say about a lot of officers out there. More people should be like manimal.
It gets taxed in california FWIW. There's no way a state with the buget problems we have would let that go untouched when they seriously considered partially legalizing it.
I'm glad the guy is in CA, that certainly changes things on the state level. However, if you got the DEA involved, that's federal and they still choose to exert their full jurisdiction from time to time. I'm glad your conscious is eased by his location but it might be no different if he were in another state.
Just curious though, would you reaction have been any different were he in another state? Be honest.
I agree with not smoking around kids but last I checked cigarettes were much worse and much more common. Don't use that as a justification for your actions.
I'm glad you called him out on his comments via the soldiers. I agree with what you wrote and it's at least on the same plane as what he did to you.
Maybe this guy really is just trying to be a good father and it's actually the kid's growing operation. Hey, some kids get a pony...
Seriously, the zealousness of going after this guy gives me the impression that it's going a little beyond Manimal just doing his duty, and that is troublesome. But I don't have a lot of sympathy for this clown.
The focus on the family is great and all, and I feel badly that a child's life could be thrown into upheaval. That is not something that should be taken lightly. But it shouldn't insulate the guy from punishment either. If the guy was so worried about his family he wouldn't expose it to this kind of problem. Plus, what about the families who are impacted by the cost and use of illegal drugs that this guy is helping put into the market? I dunno, the whole "focus on the family" seems like a wash to me. There are other ways to make a living.
And although we don't have nearly enough facts, I have to wonder what kind of characters and role models that kid is regularly getting exposed to with this dude as his father.
Seriously, the zealousness of going after this guy gives me the impression that it's going a little beyond Manimal just doing his duty, and that is troublesome. But I don't have a lot of sympathy for this clown.
The focus on the family is great and all, and I feel badly that a child's life could be thrown into upheaval. That is not something that should be taken lightly. But it shouldn't insulate the guy from punishment either. If the guy was so worried about his family he wouldn't expose it to this kind of problem. Plus, what about the families who are impacted by the cost and use of illegal drugs that this guy is helping put into the market? I dunno, the whole "focus on the family" seems like a wash to me. There are other ways to make a living.
And although we don't have nearly enough facts, I have to wonder what kind of characters and role models that kid is regularly getting exposed to with this dude as his father.
good point echo. i think a lot of you are really overestimating the fervor of our courts these days in regards to pot. if it's legalized you won't hear any gripes from me, people will just find something else to make grips of cash off of.
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um, not really, the thread title was chosen because of the irony of the situation. i'm not "getting back at him", heck, i get cussed out everyday; i simply chose to word the thread title this way because i found it humorous that he pretty much made me look at his profile (wouldn't you want to find out who was cussing you out on myspace?) which led to what the FBI calls a "clue" that he was involved in some major drug activity. this situation is the equivalent of me harrasing someone on instant messaging and telling them that i make all kinds of tax free money only to realize that i was chatting with an IRS agent.
Hilarious. First dibs on quote for sig.
Let me reiterate for the people who have this kid in a foster home while his dad rots in prison:
MOST LIKELY A HOME GROW OPERATION WILL NOT RESULT IN JAIL TIME.
I mean, if the guy starts shooting cops or flipping off the judge, yeah, but most likely they will take his plants and all his equipment (probably a significant investment) and he will get a ticket. It's pretty unlikely that Child Protective Services will get involved unless they find evidence of abuse, in which case it's for the best.
MOST LIKELY A HOME GROW OPERATION WILL NOT RESULT IN JAIL TIME.
I mean, if the guy starts shooting cops or flipping off the judge, yeah, but most likely they will take his plants and all his equipment (probably a significant investment) and he will get a ticket. It's pretty unlikely that Child Protective Services will get involved unless they find evidence of abuse, in which case it's for the best.
owned!
How would you guys feel if Manimal found someone making V10's in their basement?
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See where bad grammar can get you.
Is that why it takes so damn long to get one?
The kid was a douche.
I agree with Metalsmith, if only he had better grammar and spelling, perhaps Manimal would have taken pity on him.
As it stands, tazer his nuts.
I agree with Metalsmith, if only he had better grammar and spelling, perhaps Manimal would have taken pity on him.
As it stands, tazer his nuts.
In Boulder, that's $300.
Just to play devil's advocate here... what if this operation is the only one he posted online? What if this d-bag in question thought better of posting pics of his meth lab setup?
Sorry. Came back to check PM's. I had to make at least one more stupid post.
Go Manimal. Fvck potheads, they dress hella ghey.
I'll leave you with this parting shot....
They have to trade something for the dope they are obviously smoking.
I'd never have the drive to be that bothered about something on the internet. But then again some folks get bothered about all sorts of things on here.
of course not, any agency would be stoked to have that dropped in their lap. you know how doctors refer their patients to specialists whom they know? it's the same thing in law enforcement. if i have a gang member that has moved out of my city to promote his superb lifestyle in another, more oblivious, city i'll almost always call that local agency and give them a heads up so they know who to look for when certain crimes start popping up. i've been tipped off to local crimes in my jurisdiction by similar means, law enforcement is law enforcement and we all try to work together as one big happy oppressing family
how about this. lets say that the local narcotic distribution company, aka: street gang, finds out about his little grow operation and wants in on it. he refuses and not long after his house is shot up. does that now pose a threat worthy of spending 30 minutes of my time taking care of? "it's just pot...." yeah, a LOT of pot that usually carries with it a negative societal impact.
Cheaper then NYC then...
It would probably surprise a lot of us when it comes to who/what kind of people are behind some thing the drug rings in our own neighborhoods.
I am all for people having drug rings in their neighborhood. There always has been and there always will be a certain segment of the population that needs to be constantly opiated for their, and your, own good.
In so long as there is going to be a prohibition of the legal sale, there is going to have to be those who provide for those needs.
All of that being said, I want my drug growers/makers/manufacturers to be smarter then this. Posting it on the net? MENSA member written all over that kid.
If you're going to do this, be covert, be smart, be the Robin Hood of the game. This kid is a toolbox, and deserves everything coming down the pipe at him just for being a dumbass who chose to procreate....
In so long as there is going to be a prohibition of the legal sale, there is going to have to be those who provide for those needs.
All of that being said, I want my drug growers/makers/manufacturers to be smarter then this. Posting it on the net? MENSA member written all over that kid.
If you're going to do this, be covert, be smart, be the Robin Hood of the game. This kid is a toolbox, and deserves everything coming down the pipe at him just for being a dumbass who chose to procreate....
$50 says the d-bag with the myspace page also has an Insane Clown Posse tattoo, right next to his "420" tattoo 
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