[RiDurbin]

Can't remember where I seen it. But it said Mammoth mtn was bring back the Kamakazee downhill for the Nationals. Does that mean the National finals are going to be basically a fireroad run? Anybody know any info on the Course?

 

[RiDurbin]

Just saw the thread about the Kamakazee below. Never ridden the course myself. I understand a big chainring is best. Any other setup tips? I'm on a Turner DHR. Seems like it might be overkill. Tires? I currently running a Timberwolf in the back and a Mich Comp 32 in the front which is an awesome combo at Big Bear, but might be a little to knobby for Mammoth. I have Minions and Mich Comp 24's i could run if needed. All opinions appreciated

 

[Dingus McGee]

http://www.mammothmountain.com/bike_ride/norba/

 

[eastcoastzigzag]

im from the old school so i think it will b RAD!

 

[eastcoastzigzag]

Just saw the thread about the Kamakazee below. Never ridden the course myself. I understand a big chainring is best. Any other setup tips? I'm on a Turner DHR. Seems like it might be overkill. Tires? I currently running a Timberwolf in the back and a Mich Comp 32 in the front which is an awesome combo at Big Bear, but might be a little to knobby for Mammoth. I have Minions and Mich Comp 24's i could run if needed. All opinions appreciated

-------NO NO NON ONONONOONONON!!! XC bike w/ caliper brakes, panaracer dh magic pros, 2.1's, flat bar WITH bar ends. dont forget the 66t chain ring :love:

 

[Zaskar Rider]

-------NO NO NON ONONONOONONON!!! XC bike w/ caliper brakes, panaracer dh magic pros, 2.1's, flat bar WITH bar ends. dont forget the 66t chain ring :love:

Those caliper brakes must be in the form of Magura yellow oh and a Judy DH fork will be required as well

 

[General Lee]

Can't remember where I seen it. But it said Mammoth mtn was bring back the Kamakazee downhill for the Nationals. Does that mean the National finals are going to be basically a fireroad run? Anybody know any info on the Course?

the Kamikaze is just another event being held at the same time to add a little old school flavor, same as a few years ago. the regular dh races will be on a different course

 

[eastcoastzigzag]

Those caliper brakes must be in the form of Magura yellow oh and a Judy DH fork will be required as well

---------how could i b so foolish to forget the judy dh, 3 in of travel and retailed for $799 i believe WHEN they were available to the public. ahhhh maguras yes, but reg center pulls were first ALSO we cannot forget about the Tioga tension disc wheel. those things sound like rockets comin down the fire roads! such a cool sound.

 

[Fury]

I had that Kamakaze video for a long time and finally gave it away. It was more of a documentary than a video but I wish I still had it - a real piece of cycling history.

And BTW, the coolest part was not the wheels or the brakes, it was the bondage suits to cut down on drag!

 

[Zaskar Rider]

Ahh yes the tioga wheel...an engineering marvel. remeber the hanebrink bike thing that was fully faired and had a pneumatic seatpost with the really really big baloon tires. That thing was Umm...awesome?

 

[Bicyclist]

Yay I was scared the only DH would be Kamikaze. It is a rad trail but not for DH racing in '04. I hear they're building a new DH trail for the National Finals.

 

[eastcoastzigzag]

Ahh yes the tioga wheel...an engineering marvel. remeber the hanebrink bike thing that was fully faired and had a pneumatic seatpost with the really really big baloon tires. That thing was Umm...awesome?

--------how bout the manitou bike w/ the 80cc tires on it?

 

[MXbrew]

I just spent a week up there in Mammoth. Talking to the bike park crew they said Upper Velocity, which wasn't open yet will be used for the downhill. The Kamikaze will be an open event. Not much has changed on it, it was about 3.5 miles, just over 2100' drop, steep fireroad, lots of loose pumice with scattered rocks. Bring a huge chain ring and serious brakes. It would be easy to hit 50-60 mph on sections if you choose.

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

---------how could i b so foolish to forget the judy dh, 3 in of travel and retailed for $799 i believe WHEN they were available to the public. ahhhh maguras yes, but reg center pulls were first ALSO we cannot forget about the Tioga tension disc wheel. those things sound like rockets comin down the fire roads! such a cool sound.

dual cartridges live on

 

[manhattanprjkt83]

Anyone remember that all black suit palmer wore back in the day that looked like shrink wrap, that thing was legit!

 

[merrrrjig]

I hear pros-expert are running upper velocity to chiansmoke. and beg.-sports are racing lower velocity

 

[ÆX]

i am on it.
speed freeks unite

i got 10th in pro last time they had it.
podium this year.

 

[RhinofromWA]

i am on it.
speed freeks unite

i got 10th in pro last time they had it.
podium this year.

Same year.....same corner...much slower than you!
I think I was like 18th or something in the open Beg class....this was my 1st MTB race ever... :heart: *edit* Hahaha look at my racing number!

 

[Nitromike]

Holy crap . is that all you or was the wind catching your clothes and making you look like the Michelin Man?

 

[RhinofromWA]

Holy crap . is that all you or was the wind catching your clothes and making you look like the Michelin Man?

That is all me....

Me on Spring Break....

*edit* I found an old post on MTBR and I guess I did teh course in 5m 45sec. If the course is 3.5 miles long that means I averaged only about 36.5 miles an hour. I thought the course was 4 miles long...making my average about 42 with the same time......oh well. I will take the 36.5mph. :

 

[Nitromike]

That is all me....

Me on Spring Break....

Sweet Pic

Sweet Pic


I'M BLIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Full Trucker]

That is all me....
...Me on Spring Break...[/QUOTE]BWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's rad!


As for the Kama... how cool it's an 'open' event that anyone can race! Way cool to see them bring a little 'old school' into the first US National Championships. Like a bit of Americana... fresh.

 

[RhinofromWA]

BWWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's rad!


As for the Kama... how cool it's an 'open' event that anyone can race! Way cool to see them bring a little 'old school' into the first US National Championships. Like a bit of Americana... fresh.

It was a blast when they brought it back for the 2000 national finals. I thuroughly enjoyed the 20 drive and heat and sunburn and drama that went a long with it.

I rode (nay raced) the legend that is the Mammoth Kamikaze Dh course. The same course I had stared at and drooled for over 7 years during and after college. It was the best summer riding trip of my life.

It was strange being up against all ages for the Beginner class....but was still a blast. It was fun to see them bring out the big rings and take off the visors...actually I think it was still the "in" thing to do then.

If anyone is going there and is curious....do it if you can. Pedal till your eyes cross and become numb to the sensation you are floating at 40-50+ mph over pumice the texture of kitty litter. It is a unique experience.

Rhino gives it 2

 

[jet]

Rhyno- are you going to the championships? ANy idea what Sully's plans/itinerary might be? I'm planning on going, I just need to work oput the details.

 

[eastcoastzigzag]

Anyone remember that all black suit palmer wore back in the day that looked like shrink wrap, that thing was legit!

----------i remember Tomac wearin the black suit w/ the eagle full face.

 

[RhinofromWA]

Rhyno- are you going to the championships? ANy idea what Sully's plans/itinerary might be? I'm planning on going, I just need to work oput the details.

I am not making the trek down there. I don't know Sully's schedule down there either....I did talk to him for a short while on the phone last week. Maybe he is do another phone call....

 

[ÆX]

*edit* I found an old post on MTBR and I guess I did teh course in 5m 45sec. If the course is 3.5 miles long that means I averaged only about 36.5 miles an hour. I thought the course was 4 miles long...making my average about 42 with the same time......oh well. I will take the 36.5mph. :

1. Jeremy Purdy USA/Fox Shox-Intense 4:35.37
2. Jason Sigfrid USA/Yeti 4:35.55
3. Jurgen Beneke GER/Giant 4:36.80
4. Todd Snider USA/ODI-Southridge 4:36.85
5. Nathan Rennie AUS/Yeti 4:39.22
6. Bas De Bever NED/Be-One 4:40.44
7. Jimmy Deaton USA/Yeti 4:44.26
8. John Tomac USA/Tomac 4:45.41
9. Alexander Morgan USA/BCD Oakley 4:46.43
10. Orlando Martinez USA/Hanebrink 4:50.13

i was a 4:46 so my average was ???

 

[RhinofromWA]

1. Jeremy Purdy USA/Fox Shox-Intense 4:35.37
2. Jason Sigfrid USA/Yeti 4:35.55
3. Jurgen Beneke GER/Giant 4:36.80
4. Todd Snider USA/ODI-Southridge 4:36.85
5. Nathan Rennie AUS/Yeti 4:39.22
6. Bas De Bever NED/Be-One 4:40.44
7. Jimmy Deaton USA/Yeti 4:44.26
8. John Tomac USA/Tomac 4:45.41
9. Alexander Morgan USA/BCD Oakley 4:46.43
10. Orlando Martinez USA/Hanebrink 4:50.13

i was a 4:46 so my average was ???

Well, ing... 60 minutes in an hour/4.77 minute race run = a multiplier of 12.59 x 3.5 miles = 44.03mph average, right?

Purdy ran a 4:35 or about 4.58 minutes so 60/4.58x3.5= 45.85mph average, I think.

 

[Nitromike]

47.09

http://pages.prodigy.net/jack.loganbill/mph.htm

 

[RhinofromWA]

47.09

You didn't convert the time to a decimal. 4:46 minutes = 4.766666667 minutes I was right.....for once. Yeah for HS math! Woo-Hoo!

 

[Nitromike]

Converted

44.06

 

[RhinofromWA]

Converted

44.06

it's not and I carried the decimel out to get my 3/100th's of a second diff. :

It is amazing how much math (appication of) I have forgotten and how usefull it comes in sometimes....

 

[Nitromike]

Ok you win .. I hated math 17 years ago, and I still hate it now