marz monster's ever break?

Jm_ · Oct 23, 2004

bcd said:
has anyone ever seen a monster ever break clean off? drop out or legs?

i ask this b/c i am seriously bying one for my 175 lb yamaha ttr125.
i don't to 40' db's on it. i just hammer the trail.
i saw a guy at vermont who had one on his dh bike wiht the same size front
rim i have on my ttr laced to a dh hub. the tire clears exaclly like a dh size would. the hub and nrake fit i can do i just don't want to get hurt.

motot forks are too heavy and big. i need 8''ish

thanks alex

but why not a super monster

???

Hey, you know that the monster T was originally a trials motorcycle fork right? It was adapted for mountain bike use, but this isn't a case like the shiver of two different forks having the same name, it actually was a trails fork slightly modified for mountain bikes.

Anyway, this should be interesting, regardless of whether it's the best idea in the world. Stratos put an S8 on a motorcylce, they had to reduce the travel though to make it work, due to the wheel and HT size.

Oh, and everything breaks

, it may be the strongest DH fork out there, but that doesn't mean you can't eventually snap the stanchions by repeatedly casing jumps.

azonicbruce · Oct 24, 2004

In the video "Third Down" some guy snaps the crowns clean off a newer monster (don't think it was a super monster). I believe the guy's name was "Evil Dave" or something.

The go-ride crew would know for sure.

btw, i'm getting the itch to watch that vid again. Still a cool vid IMO. :thumb:

The Kadvang · Oct 24, 2004

azonicbruce said:
In the video "Third Down" some guy snaps the crowns clean off a newer monster (don't think it was a super monster). I believe the guy's name was "Evil Dave" or something.

The go-ride crew would know for sure.

btw, i'm getting the itch to watch that vid again. Still a cool vid IMO.

That was a crazy case. I just watched it, he 50-50s a huge gap that he got towed into by a moto and all the leverage goes right onto his fork. I don't think anything could have withstood it.

azonicbruce · Oct 24, 2004

The Kadvang said:
That was a crazy case. I just watched it, he 50-50s a huge gap that he got towed into by a moto and all the leverage goes right onto his fork. I don't think anything could have withstood it.

Best part is, he then slaps on an OLDER '00 Monster (the red ones) immediately following and hits it AGAIN!

Sweet! :evil:

nickaziz · Oct 24, 2004

If I remember correctly, the fork that snapped in that case was not an 03-05, but rather an old style one. I recall the crowns looking milled out (you can see through it) like the old monster ones.

BigMike · Oct 24, 2004

Yes, I've seen a monster break, but only in one video, just like everyone else here. One case of a fork breaking, pretty good odds :cool:

BigHit-Maniac · Oct 24, 2004

You my friend are a TARD.

Leave your motocross fork on the bike... that's what it was designed to run.

Save your money... and go buy a Showa or a Works Kayaba fork.

Curb Hucker · Oct 24, 2004

BigHit-Maniac said:
You my friend are a TARD.

Leave your motocross fork on the bike... that's what it was designed to run.

Save your money... and go buy a Showa or a Works Kayaba fork.

Jm_ · Oct 24, 2004

BigHit-Maniac said:
You my friend are a TARD.

Leave your motocross fork on the bike... that's what it was designed to run.

Save your money... and go buy a Showa or a Works Kayaba fork.

Tell me, what would be better for the entertainment of this forum, if he went out and bought a motorcycle fork (like a shiver WC?

), or if he bought a Mosnter T designed for a mountain bike and somehow fit it on there? Think of it, no more questions about "where is the engine?"....

The Kadvang · Oct 24, 2004

azonicbruce said:
Best part is, he then slaps on an OLDER '00 Monster (the red ones) immediately following and hits it AGAIN!

Sweet! :evil:

Hell Yeah! Even tables it. I think the original fork was an '02.

Polandspring88 · Oct 24, 2004

yes, monsters do break. i spoke with a guy at plattekill who had gone through 2 or 3 of the crowns on the 2001 monsters. they are not indestructible, just very close to it.
Tim

Tom DH · Oct 24, 2004

Go for it.

That would be a really cool bike to ride. One of my mates has got a TTR and when I have been out on it I have thought that a monster up front would be good.
I think they would hold up and on a TTR it is only a fun bike so its not like you are going to totally thrash them. :devil:

Post up so picture if you go for it.

scottishmark · Oct 24, 2004

erm, isn't the damping gonna be just as big a problem as strength issues? an extra 135lbs is gonna make a bit of a difference

TWISTED · Oct 24, 2004

The Yamaha ttr125 is a super fun play bike. For those of you who don't know, it's NOT a real motocross bike, it comes with a low end fork to keep the price down.
bcd, if I were you I'd shop the motorcycle salvage spots and try to find a fork off a newer yz80 or any 80. I think the 80 forks get around 10-1/2" travel, are stronger, less hassle as far as front hub and brakes, and probably cheaper.

Cave Dweller · Oct 24, 2004

Well, i have seen a picture of a 02 monster with a smashed lower which caused the stanchions to bind and not get full travel.

I know someone who cracked an upper leg (due to over tightening the pinch bolts) and i know someone else who cracked an upper crown.

They are the strongest fork by far and most people who have monsters do silly things with them.

BigMike · Oct 24, 2004

Cave Dweller said:
Well, i have seen a picture of a 02 monster with a smashed lower which caused the stanchions to bind and not get full travel.

I know someone who cracked an upper leg (due to over tightening the pinch bolts) and i know someone else who cracked an upper crown.

Well, thanks for ruining everyone elses thoughts of them being indestructable :blah:

Cave Dweller said:
They are the strongest fork by far and most people who have monsters do silly things with them.

Thats why on their website it is described as "When its time to go bigger than your insurance deductible allows, its time to take a Monster for a ride."

toodles · Oct 24, 2004

One of my riding buddies broke his lower crown and arch on his Monster in a collision with a tree. Given the fork took the brunt of the impact, and the crash totalled his frame as well, I think the Monster couldn't be faulted. Nothing else would have even had a chance.

BigMike · Oct 24, 2004

toodles said:
One of my riding buddies broke his lower crown and arch on his Monster in a collision with a tree. Given the fork took the brunt of the impact, and the crash totalled his frame as well, I think the Monster couldn't be faulted. Nothing else would have even had a chance.

How fast, and what kinda frame did he kill?

S3C · Oct 24, 2004

You'll run into all sorts of problem trying to fit that fork on there, plus it would be very weak on it.

Look at this:

http://www.ttr125l.com/yz_suspension.htm

Its basically one of the few options you have. YZ80 forks on the front end of a TTR125L.

Another option would be this:

http://www.bbrmotorsports.com/

And replace the fork springs (and maybe the shock spring while your at it) with ones from this company. They are supposed to help a lot (30% stiffer).

toodles · Oct 24, 2004

BigMike said:
How fast, and what kinda frame did he kill?

One of the older model Norco Team DHs (think it had a maple leaf on it?). He's a big guy and would have been going over 50kph. You can't blame the fork for dying - it wasn't a pretty crash.

BigMike · Oct 24, 2004

toodles said:
One of the older model Norco Team DHs (think it had a maple leaf on it?). He's a big guy and would have been going over 50kph. You can't blame the fork for dying - it wasn't a pretty crash.

those are BEEFY frames! Thats impressive that he killed a monster and a Norco team DH. is he still alive?

toodles · Oct 24, 2004

BigMike said:
those are BEEFY frames! Thats impressive that he killed a monster and a Norco team DH. is he still alive?

Yeah he got off pretty lightly. His wallet didn't and the tree needed some therapy though.

BigMike · Oct 24, 2004

toodles said:
Yeah he got off pretty lightly. His wallet didn't and the tree needed some therapy though.

Details man, DETAILS!

vitox · Oct 25, 2004

nickaziz said:
If I remember correctly, the fork that snapped in that case was not an 03-05, but rather an old style one. I recall the crowns looking milled out (you can see through it) like the old monster ones.

i think its in double down and im sure its not an 03+

Yeti DHer · Oct 25, 2004

BigHit-Maniac said:
You my friend are a TARD.

Leave your motocross fork on the bike... that's what it was designed to run.

Save your money... and go buy a Showa or a Works Kayaba fork.

You're fvckin' crazy.

James | Go-Ride · Oct 25, 2004

bcd said:
has anyone ever seen a monster ever break clean off? drop out or legs?

i ask this b/c i am seriously bying one for my 175 lb yamaha ttr125.
i don't to 40' db's on it. i just hammer the trail.
i saw a guy at vermont who had one on his dh bike wiht the same size front
rim i have on my ttr laced to a dh hub. the tire clears exaclly like a dh size would. the hub and nrake fit i can do i just don't want to get hurt.

motot forks are too heavy and big. i need 8''ish

thanks alex

The old Monster T drop crowns had a sharp corner on them that failed under abusive circumstances, aka Evil Dave overshooting a tow-in double by 12 feet. Anyway, one of the new-style Monster T forks should be more than adequate for your TTR for general trail use, although any sort of jumping is probably not going to be too good for the fork.

You might run into some problems mounting the fork onto the bike, however. If I remember correctly most moto fork tubes are 1" and mountain bike steerers are 1.125".

TWISTED · Oct 25, 2004

Too bad, I just sold my '03 monsterT for $350 and it was in really good shape.

freeridebiker21 · Oct 25, 2004

azonicbruce said:
In the video "Third Down" some guy snaps the crowns clean off a newer monster (don't think it was a super monster). I believe the guy's name was "Evil Dave" or something.

The go-ride crew would know for sure.

btw, i'm getting the itch to watch that vid again. Still a cool vid IMO.

i did a search but nothing came up,got a link to this video you guys are talking about? :help:

freeridebiker21 · Oct 25, 2004

come on i wanna see the sick vid!!!

Jm_ · Oct 25, 2004

bcd said:
yeah, i am going to hammer out both steerers and make an adapter for the monster ans heat/cold press fit it. i will use the stock ttr steel steerer.

it is weird that moto is still small? i was looking at the new marz moto stuff and was blown away! the legs are 45mm, almost 2'' while the steerer is half that and takes twice the load. lol

I think there's an OEM 50mm shiver too.

The steerer doesn't really take the load, the load is taken by the legs, the ends of the steerer (races) take a load, but that is transfered to the crowns and legs.

Take a look at the avalanche Mtn8 fork, it doesn't even have a steerer, just races on the crowns essentially and a long threaded rod to preload the bearings.

Pedalist · Oct 27, 2004

Billy Bad Ass of the Hickhucksters freeride assault squadron broke one doing a 15+footer on a hardtail. He destroyed the cartridge in the left leg and stripped the topcap out of the stanchion.

Universe · Oct 27, 2004

I snapped the steerer off once, but that was on GMG in Van

I now have 04 crowns on my 02 Monster. Perfect setup.

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