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- Marzocchi 66 SL 2006 - 170mm/5.75Lbs
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- Marzocchi 66 SL 2006 - 170mm/5.75Lbs
- Fox 36 Van RC2 - 160mm/5.45 Lbs
Spokompton said:I've seen both the 40 and 36 receive major dents from small impacts. One guy dented his 40 really bad just from it falling over while it was standing up.
I have yet to ever see a single dented Marzocchi or broken Marzocchi for that matter.
When you consider the price and the fact that the Van 36 and 66 SL are pretty mich the same weight, it's a no brainer in favor of the 66SL.You're joking, right?
I've seen pics of a couple broken 40's, but none received dents in any of the crashes they were involved in.
Additionally, I've never seen one picture of a dented Fox fork on the internet. How do you explain that, if they're so prone to denting?
I now strongly disagree with the comment about the 66sl being lesser.Castle said:The Van 36 will have better quality of travel.
the 66sl just feels ok, doesn't compare to a coil fork from fox or marzocchi.
see "boing" thread, 140lb rider, 5 pump strokes positive chamber (didn't register on guage) no air in preload chamber, still too stiff for rider, cannot use all the travel. We spent probably over an hour playing with that fork and really never got it where he wanted it.Spokompton said:I now strongly disagree with the comment about the 66sl being lesser.
I've ridden plenty of coil forks, including tons of Marzocchi pure coil forks.
Once broken in a bit and tuned properly (it takes a while to get a good air setting, main reason for bad feeling is not being setup right!) it feels no different than any coil fork I've been on.
It's most deffinitely more smooth than any Half Coil Half air Marzocchi fork I've ridden. Those forks don't have negative air pressuer, so they feel really sticky on smaller bumps.
When you consider the lightweight of the SL it actually has an edge over the coil 66 forks IMO. Along with the fact that the spring rate will never be too high or too low. Using air will be good for my type of riding where I like it soft for the trails and firm for the hucks.
There must be something wrong with your fork or pump.Castle said:see "boing" thread, 140lb rider, 5 pump strokes positive chamber (didn't register on guage) no air in preload chamber, still too stiff for rider, cannot use all the travel. We spent probably over an hour playing with that fork and really never got it where he wanted it.
Well, It's kind of a personal thing, same as oil weight - you can't really have a 'perfect' amount for everyone eh?Spokompton said:I've never seen a Zoke with perfect oil levels out of the box. I guess that's one problem with zokes.
yeah we tried multiple pumps, I thought the same thing....Spokompton said:There must be something wrong with your fork or pump.
Maybe too much oil?
I have mine at 40 psi positive and get most of my travel.
I will have to mess with PAR and oil levels to fine tune that last little bit of travel.
I've never seen a Zoke with perfect oil levels out of the box. I guess that's one problem with zokes.
BTW, trying to say that Fox is better because they have better forks all around is missleading. They don't sell any low end cheap forks.
When you compare similar forks between the two, you must also account for price. $600 spent on a Zoke will get you more fork than $600 spent on a Fox.
New 2006 66 rc2x forks are going for less than $700.
New Fox 36 forks are going for $800-$1000
$800 AND all you get is a rebound adjustment? Come on fox, that's just lame. Give them all rc2 damping.
Castle said:yeah we tried multiple pumps, I thought the same thing....
I didn't want to take the time to check oil levels as it's not even my fork and it was after hours. I don't see zocchi's inaccurate oil levels a problem, you typically end up fine tuning it anyway and the first recommended oil change comes very soon after the break in period.
Just out of curiosity what do you weigh without gear?
I think the MSRP's are something like
Van 36rc2 885
Van 36r 759
Talas 36rc2 995
Talas 36r 849
66rc2x 825
66SL 799
66lighteta 799
66VF2 689
they are all way too expensive, suspension imparticular has really increased in price in the passed few years.... not saying technology hasn't because it has but ouch! 700-1,000 for a single crown....
I agree, and don't have time to search the net for all the deals out there.Spokompton said:You should go by actual selling prices, not MSRP. The Pike came out last year with a much higher MSRP than what they really sold for. No one in their right mind would say the Pike wasn't a good value.
I've found that Fox product are sold in the market closer to MSRP than Zokes.
Every one of the 06 66 forks can be had for less than $700
I weigh close to 2oo lbs.
150 in negative chamber
10 in bottom out.
It's important to get enough negative pressure in there.