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Discussion in 'Downhill & Freeride' started by djjohnr, Jul 29, 2013.
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They look to be something that's been needed for a while. Imagine how much time a mechanic can save not having to snip 100's of little spikes every race. I'll be getting these for sure.
Also, note the sharpie'd out wet screams on Remi's bike?..........
wouldn't you if you were sponsored by Kenda?! (for the sake of clarity:
It's gotta be part of the contract considering every Kenda ride does it! haha
That's what they should've named the tire! I referred to the project as 'Short Spike' from the beginning, so I guess the name just fell into place.
I was beginning to wonder if this tire would ever see the light of day. More voluminous carcass than a WetScream, and of course no trimming necessary.
Maxxis, make these available to the public.
i think they look an aweful lot like the schwalbe muddy marys. but i guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...
The muddy mary is my fav tire for rocky loamy loose stuff, so I see this as a clear home run for maxxis, as they have been missing a tire for that imo (contis Baron is similar in use as well)
Interesting they never made the Medusa in a DH casing (that I know of anyway), which looks pretty similar with the exception of the center block.
You mean that tire that seemed to appear in the Southeast as soon as Wyatt left Maxxiss and appeared at Specialized ...
Now if Maxxis could just start pumping out some 1.5 ply 26" tubeless versions of their tires...
now all they need is to make "woo's wet dream" aka: trimmed DHR2 centerline paired to the OG HR corner knobs.
pretty much all you need, between those, the shorty's and wetscreams.
It's already made.
Now they just need to make one in hard rubber.
...and they need a 1000 gram tubeless "enduro" version.
I don't think bontrager even knows how good of a tire that thing is.
There should be a version in every casing they make.
have you been riding that thing?
can you make BTI or QBP start carrying it? cause that would be radicals.
I've had one on my dh bike for a few months. Just got back from god knows how many runs from a two week road trip. It's fuggin gooooood.
i prefer the Intense Intruder over the Muddy Mary tried the MM,s for a few months and just switched back to the Intruder and love them , everyone bugs me for using a mud tire , i just laugh if they are a mud tire they are the softest compound mud tire i have ever seen , not to mention the MM,s are huge the 2.5" looks like a 2.7" when put beside a 2.5" Maxxis tire
I agree a bunch of us east coast guys ride in some garbage (and im sure lots of other areas like the UK have the same issue)...I have run cut wet screams in the winter on my trail bike for a while, but they are pigs. I would love to see these in both DH and single ply casing. Dare I say a 650 casing as well...There has got to be a market....
The Shorty does look pretty good, I have been a fan of the cut spike before but cutting them takes a while and they wear out so freaking fast, these might last a little longer but will still be a race day only thing for me I think.
On the subject of the MM 2.5 being massive compared to a Maxxis 2.5, even the new Maxxis 2.5 is much bigger than the old ones (I have a new 29 x 2.5 Minion on my Enduro 29er that dwarfs the 2.5's on my dh bike in width)
I have a mental block about schwable tires. I have tried everyone of them and every once and a while someone will talk me into trying another one.
I like the shorty kind of reminds me of what a warn down trail king (rubber queen) looks like from conti. Something to consider when the minions run down for sure.
Yeah. I haven't ridden anywhere that warranted a slow tire on the rear that I'm just going to tear up in a day.
Even the PNW is dry right now.
But the braking traction on those things is retarded. And by retarded I mean advanced.
I didn't measure. It's just a really friggin good tire.
And I don't have to cut it.
I'm not sure if they do a 650b, but I loved the FR version of the Dirty Dan for muddy trail rides last winter.
Holy fvck that bontrager looks sweet. Must find. And no kidding about the PNW being dry. I actually have a high roller semi slick on the back of my DHR right now. Who needs braking anyway?
What tire are you running in the rear with the G5 up front?
Where did you get the G5?
The Bontrager downhill tires I've seen seem to have a funny profile, shoulder knobs are a bit further down the sidewall and they have a more aggressive angle. Seems like it you'd have to get the bike leaned over more to get them to bite.
Why does everyone keep comparing the shorty to the Muddy Mary? Looks like a Magic Mary to me...
I just want to get a picutre of the Shorty up in here so we don't have to keep referring to another thread:
Good dry set-up.
Why does anyone compare the tire to any others? What seem like vague similarities are often huge differences. The devil's in the details.
You're in the wrong biz these days.
Hey shirk, is that really a hard compound one they're offering? Looks like shlt braking traction for a dh bike (hence why they should make a hard G5) but looks like a happy pants trail tire.
You're right of course, but people compare what they can see. Can't really compare dynamic stiffness and hysteresis can we?
I have no idea. I want one in a good durable casing in the 900g range for summer trail bike rear tire.
In the latest EWS video from Dirt TV I see JHK running it as a rear.
Jhk had a 29" 2.3 tlr rear when I saw him at the canyons enduro.
Does bontrager offer any 1.5 casings? Not that I know of, but agree of course that would be radicals.
There's nothing weird about the G5s at all. Sides are where they need to be.
Haven't tried the intruder, but how could being massive be a bad thing?! My bike felt positively anorexic when I put my Minions on after a spring on Marys. Looking down on a Schwalbe tire makes you feel like a moto rider! Just run low pressure and monster truck everything! BRAAAAAAHP!
my new bike is a 2012 Entourage and the 2.5 MM is too big in the rear less then a 1/4" or clearance between the stays and the tire . as for pressure i run 32/34lbs most of the time not a fan of the tire wadding up and such