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Maxxis Vs. Michelin

dfinn

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bizutch said:
because Maxxis is secretly funded by Saddam Hussein and have a limitless budget that allows them to throw tires at anyone who qualifies for Pro Class?
tires of mass(go sox) destruction?
 

bpatterson6

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Jul 1, 2004
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Misfitslacker said:
its the best tire combo imo then ride dual larson TT's for hard fast cond. or just djing...maxxis tires are the SH!T
I'm using the Maxxis F Minion 2.5 up front and a 2.5 High Roller in the back. Tubeless. It's pretty sweet!!
 

me89

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May 25, 2004
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I thought it was a minion front? Almost everyone on the podium had that combo. Even guys who were sponsored by wtb, michelin, and kenda...
ive learned that you argue with acadian and you get burned just like fire. its pretty much what he says will be right granted he is human.

and that combo kicks ass at whisler and any other dirt coverd mtb corse.
 

Acadian

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bpatterson6 said:
I'm using the Maxxis F Minion 2.5 up front and a 2.5 High Roller in the back. Tubeless. It's pretty sweet!!
nope...Minnaar had HR front and rear on race day. I have pics that show it, but unfortunately can't share them. He might of practiced or qualified with a Minion at one point, but he had HR's on race day.
 

Acadian

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me89 said:
ive learned that you argue with acadian and you get burned just like fire. its pretty much what he says will be right granted he is human.

and that combo kicks ass at whisler and any other dirt coverd mtb corse.
:think: :eviltongu :devil:
 

me89

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woops my bad didnt think that you would take offence to that one. lol just for ****s and giggles as they say.
 

JohnnyBoyDH

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Aug 6, 2003
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Isn't the Highroller really just a knock off of the Comp 16 when you think about it...Very similar in design. I think both work well. I just wish Maxxis made the 2.35 versions with the 2 ply casing for those times when you need a smaller rear tire.
 

me89

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lol

ohh and another thing about maxxis i hear there supposed to run a little bit smaller than posted size. (2.5 is really like a 2.45 or something like that)
 

bpatterson6

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me89 said:
ive learned that you argue with acadian and you get burned just like fire. its pretty much what he says will be right granted he is human.

and that combo kicks ass at whisler and any other dirt coverd mtb corse.
He likey the brown eye :nuts:
 

dexterq20

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Mar 6, 2003
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JohnnyBoyDH said:
Isn't the Highroller really just a knock off of the Comp 16 when you think about it...Very similar in design. I think both work well. I just wish Maxxis made the 2.35 versions with the 2 ply casing for those times when you need a smaller rear tire.
Nope, you got it backwards. I'm pretty darn sure that the High Roller came first.
 

dhrace507

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First of all, the comp 16 came first, it was not sold to the general public first, but it came first. About all the pro's using the maxxis tires, that's crap. Half use something else. About all the podium pro's using maxxis, Panozzo uses Intense and Dustin Adams uses Michelin. Get your facts straight people.
 

Scrub

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Feb 4, 2003
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Hey, just run what you brung....or can afford.
I think the rider has more input on the bikes control/feel than the tires. But tire selection is a part of the whole package of tuning for each course.

90% rider/10%equipment
 

JohnnyBoyDH

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dexterq20 said:
Nope, you got it backwards. I'm pretty darn sure that the High Roller came first.
Nope. The Factory Michelin guys have been running the Comp 16's before Maxxis was even in the DH scene. The Comp 16's have been around since '97-'98 (only in 2.2" though). You had to have a connection to the infamous Yellow Michelin Truck at the World Cups to get them (or to get the factory cut ones from that little french dude with the coolest tire trimming tool out there). I know cause my slow ass couldn't get them. I used to pimp my buddies old used ones when he was done with them.
 

JohnnyBoyDH

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Scrub said:
Hey, just run what you brung....or can afford.
I think the rider has more input on the bikes control/feel than the tires. But tire selection is a part of the whole package of tuning for each course.

90% rider/10%equipment
Man I am into this thread eh? LOL You have to remember that the tires are the only thing connecting you to the ground. That little 2.5" of rubber has alot to deal with. I think tire choice can make a huge difference in racing. i mean the rider obviously makes the biggest difference but the equipment these days accounts for more than 10%.
 

profro

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Feb 25, 2002
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I run the Minion DHF front and rear for the most part, but I switch out and use a 2.7 HR in the front or a 2.5 HR in the rear occasionally. The only problem is that the HR doesn't have that great of braking for a rear tire IMO.
 

Jeremy R

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JohnnyBoyDH said:
Ha ha, not all the time. You would be surprised what a sharpie marker can do come race time. I see it less now as most companies make excellent products, but you still see some blacked out stuff on some bikes.
Yeah, back in day, everybody sharpied over the Michelin, because everybodies else's tire compound was pure crap. The funny thing is that Michelin still uses the same compound, and it still kicks azz to this day.
I don't think you see the "sharpie" deal as much anymore because of Internet
Information Master Ninja's like Acadian who can tell you what tube a pro is running from 30 yards away. :blah:
 

ÆX

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Sep 8, 2001
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dhrace507 said:
First of all, the comp 16 came first, it was not sold to the general public first, but it came first. About all the pro's using the maxxis tires, that's crap. Half use something else. About all the podium pro's using maxxis, Panozzo uses Intense and Dustin Adams uses Michelin. Get your facts straight people.

good first post.

someone who knows facts?
 

bizutch

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The whole sharpie over the tire thing originated with Cannondale. Their riders were sponsored by Hutchinson. It was all over their jerseys and stuff. Gracia and Lopes tried using them but their offerings weren't true DH/DS tires, particularly at Mt. Snow where you needed a BURLY tire.....so they got other brands and blacked out the logos. At the time, the only worthwhile offerings for DH were from Maxxis and Michelin.

Ever since then, it's expected. Not to say it doesn't happen.

Also, as for the High Roller vs Comp 16 tread pattern issue, all you gotta do is watch Headliners. Maxxis only had the Mofo and Helter Skelters to offer (pro or amateur) that year. In the video, during Cullinan's interview at his house, his slalom bike is sporting a pair of Comp 16 2.2's.

As for tires making the difference to the point of choosing a Maxxis over a Michelin for the sole purpose of traction, that's just plain stupid. It reminds me of my favorite saying by Kirkcaldie "I don't give a F*&% what they give me, I just ride the F*&$ out of it!!!" He put a hurting on everybody when he sported a Rocky Mountain RM9 with Monster T and 24 inch rear rim and Arrow rear tire in the mud at one National. The tire wasn't a mud tire...just regular knobs. That means...the rider is the shiznit!!! :D

Disclaimer: Yes, true mud tires really are an advantage in the mud. But if you're Kirkcaldie...
 

ssaddict

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Oct 4, 2001
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Jeremy R said:
Yeah, back in day, everybody sharpied over the Michelin, because everybodies else's tire compound was pure crap. The funny thing is that Michelin still uses the same compound, and it still kicks azz to this day.
Yep :thumb:

BIB Rules!!


What's all this talk bout fact's, I thought RM was all about wild speculation and rumors?!?
 

me89

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May 25, 2004
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90% rider/10%equipment
i agree. but maybee a little bit more than 10%. more like 15-20% lol. its cause of this new equipment that it takes a little less skill to get over some obsticals. now im not saying that the pros have no skill im just saying cause of this we have to make the coarses alot harder and sometimes doesnt always work that way. ohh well. both tires are good. go with weight and width when you choose which ones to buy.
 

JohnnyBoyDH

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Aug 6, 2003
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bizutch said:
The whole sharpie over the tire thing originated with Cannondale. Their riders were sponsored by Hutchinson. It was all over their jerseys and stuff.
That's funny as that was who I was talking about. I remember at Mont Ste Anne the Cannondale tech was going to throw out some used blacked out IRC tires but gave them to us instead cause we had nothing good...lol