[leprechaun]

Tires tires tires.
Sooo personal.
I remember seeing Palmer at DV in like99 with The Godlike for the time Missles on his Specialized with the logos blacked out-and the sidewalls were black too!Remember they were red.
And an Intense girl w/swampthings at Durango 2 years age when Intense didn't have good mudders.
Some people love michies,and some get paid to ride em.
Maxxis has many different tread patterns,depending on your personal preferences,and when you find your tread,pick from 3 different compounds and 3 sizes.
the mich ruber is fairly soft,and not slow rebounding.Off the back compared to other offerings.The casing is not as pinch flat resistant either.Some people that are crazy fast like the fact that the tires,being quick rebounding they can go all the faster on them.These people are special and don't have the same needs of us mortals.
Minion/hr combo is the choice of our team too,based on trying out the options.
They wear out so fast and roll slow though,and if dh racing is only part of your game then a little firmer faster rubber can have it's benifits-mich could be great fr tires.
peace

 

[bizutch]

Tires tires tires.
Sooo personal.....(precursing this is going to be a biased statement)
Some people love michies,and some get paid to ride em.(got a list of people that Michelin pays?)......mich ruber is fairly soft,and not slow rebounding.Off the back compared to other offerings. (Red flag: personal statement due to lack of knowledge) The casing is not as pinch flat resistant either (b/c he says so) .......minion/hr combo is the choice of our team too,based on trying out the options. (red Flag II: maybe cause that's who gives you tires?)
......-mich could be great fr tires. (if they gave you free ones and told you to say so?) ink: ink: ink: ink: ink: ink: ink:
peace (Anarchist)

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[buildyourown]

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Michy pay lots of people thru their grassroots program. Podium with michies, and you get a check.
Seeing as the go-ride team gets there stuff thru the shop, they can run whatever they want. They aren't locked into sponsors.

 

[leprechaun]

woow bizz
i knew someone would get fired up if i dissed micheys!
Yes our team gets free tires.They were freaking out when our tire order was slow to arrive and we gave our team boxloads of Maxxis SRY'S. they could have grabbed whatever we had of the many brands we sell.They all tried various tires and wanted Maxxis.
Yes tire statements will be biased,but working here and going to races there seems to be a lot of people getting pinch flats on micheys.And most people that have ridden both brands would agree that the rubber is more firm and not really a slow rebounding compound.I do think it is good rubber,just for differnt situations,like fr.
I thought about not posting on this thread because tires are personal but sometimes people that are asking questions that i have had a lot of experience with could benifit from my personal findings.
I could recomend other brands of tires,Honestly the Maxxis Corp is hard to deal with,hard to get on the phone,etc.Other companies have better cust service,etc but i am recomending what i,and other people i associate with like most.
Isn't that what this board is about?

 

[ssaddict]

After having a grassroots deal with Maxxis last year I decided to switch back to Michy's. Not only because our team runs them but because I personally think they are better tires. Maxxis provides ZERO race support, and if you ever have a problem and need to get new rubber your gonna have to buy something from someone else. Customer service, or just ordering is very difficult and vague, and tires may take months to actually show up. Last year's entry into the tubeless market was just scary, as I had 3 our of 4 of them damn things I tried blow off the rim on me at less than 40psi on UST rims. Hello Quality Control?!? The weird thing is the normal tires seemed to hold a bead on the same rim?!?

They do offer a very wide selection of different size's, compounds and, tread types. But in all IMHO, half of them don't work so well, or are not needed, cause they overlap each other in the lineup. They do make some good rubber, the SRY's are good for alot of conditions, and the Highroller and Semi Slick combo is still one of my favorite tire choices.

But I'll take a set of Tubeless Comp 16's anyday over anything else. :heart:

 

[Supa8]

I really like the Comp 16 from Michie. Very good NE tire. If only They would make a 2.5" Comp 32 I think the selection would be complete.

 

[ssaddict]

I really like the Comp 16 from Michie. Very good NE tire. If only They would make a 2.5" Comp 32 I think the selection would be complete.

They use to, I think it was called a Comp 12 and was about 2.4"

I think there are a few still floating around.

 

[Acadian]

They use to, I think it was called a Comp 12 and was about 2.4"

I think there are a few still floating around.

ya i got a set of those...

 

[Supa8]

Guess the Comp 12 did not catch on? Comp 32 is a great tire just a bit HUGE.

 

[Acadian]

Guess the Comp 12 did not catch on? .

no...it's that they were never manufatctured - a few teams were testing them, but Michelin never released them.

I’ve been begging Michelin to make a 2.6 or 2.5 Comp 32 – that would be such a great tire.

 

[Inclag]

For all of you folks that wished Michelin made the Comp 32 in a 2.5", there is the Intense 909. Which according to a few people (you know the deal, friends of friends) was designed by a person that used to work for Michelin.

Of course the 909 weighs a boat-load, doesn't come in a tubeless flavor, and has been known to wear quickly/have knobs fall off.

So in closing, yes Michelin needs to make a 2.5" Comp 32

 

[Heath Sherratt]

First of all, the comp 16 came first, it was not sold to the general public first, but it came first. About all the pro's using the maxxis tires, that's crap. Half use something else. About all the podium pro's using maxxis, Panozzo uses Intense and Dustin Adams uses Michelin. Get your facts straight people.

Right, half use something else. That leaves half the pros on maxxis. Just an observation i was curious about. Turned into a fireball thread though. I was asking to find out information on compounds and tread patterns hopeing to find out something new. I seet that the one that looks like the high roller has very tall side knobs that would appear to roll because they are so soft. I am sure you could cut it but then you could also buy the HR and save the hassle. The only verdict I suppose will come from riding them but I just wanted to know what people knew, not really what people thought. Jus' the fax mang. Sidewalls, compounds, tread patterns, sizes, beads, cost, weights, blah, blah, blah. Oh, and Hutchinson has a HR knock-off called the octopus that cedric and ann designed yet cedric still refuses to run them. Just curious about those too.

 

[JohnnyBoyDH]

I think the Octopus tire's sidewall is not thick enough and is more prone to pinch flatting. They are a light tire though.

 

[Acadian]

I think the Octopus tire's sidewall is not thick enough and is more prone to pinch flatting. They are a light tire though.

Had a friend say the exact same thing about those - he used them for a while and complained about the sidewalls being too thin.

 

[Jeremy R]

But I'll take a set of Tubeless Comp 16's anyday over anything else. :heart:

Yep, if you can't make a set of tubeless Comp 16's hook up,
its time quit DHing and maybe like take up jibbing or perhaps jumping
on a trampoline. Hell, you might can even make the Olympics.

Hey Kyle, Did you ever try a set of those 2.4 comp 12s?
Nico designed those to roll fast, they may have looked like comp 32s, but the grip was sketch. It had nothing for center knobs. It was almost like a semislick before they ever came out. I still have a couple laying around.
But yeah, If Michelin came out with a 2.5 comp 32, I never take if off the front.

 

[go-ride.com]

Originally Posted by leprechaun
Tires tires tires.
Sooo personal.....(precursing this is going to be a biased statement)
Some people love michies,and some get paid to ride em.(got a list of people that Michelin pays?)......mich ruber is fairly soft,and not slow rebounding.Off the back compared to other offerings. (Red flag: personal statement due to lack of knowledge) The casing is not as pinch flat resistant either (b/c he says so) .......minion/hr combo is the choice of our team too,based on trying out the options. (red Flag II: maybe cause that's who gives you tires?)
......-mich could be great fr tires. (if they gave you free ones and told you to say so?)
peace (Anarchist)

This is a pretty unprofessional post. If you have a differing opinion about a product, post your opinion about the product, don't slander other posters. Your whole post just says the original poster is wrong or deliberately lying, and of course you don’t seem to have any real basis for how you know this. You don't post a single fact, or for that matter personal opinion, why Michy tires are better than or as good as Maxxis tires.

If I was running SEI racing I would be pretty disappointed in a post like this coming from a team member, and I would expect an apology.

 

[Mani_UT]

You don't post a single fact, or for that matter personal opinion, why Michy tires are better than or as good as Maxxis tires.
.

Pfuuuu. Je pèète in your general direction. Of couuuuuurse Michelin is better. They come from FRrrrance Monsieur. France. That's right. What else is there to know??


"pèter" means "to fart" in French by the way for those who wonder

 

[Jeremy R]

This is a pretty unprofessional post.

Yes, Butch is an amatuer poster. He is holding onto his amatuer status so that one day he can compete in the Olympics (special).
No seriously, I do run SEI and I am sure he was joking.
Our team rides for Michelin, but we also have a lot of respect for Maxxis because of how much they do for our sport, and especially our region.
So, you are not gonna hear us badmouthing them.
Ask your boy JP about Butch. They are buddies. That should tell you something right there.
No hard feelings.

 

[ssaddict]

Hey Kyle, Did you ever try a set of those 2.4 comp 12s?

I finally found someone that still had a good set of them at Durango... and then I left them there. :nuts:


This was the first weekend I have spend alot of time on that Comp 16 2.5 tubeless setup and I am really happy with it. I ran them front and back in Durango. Just the right ammount of added rubber and traction, and the knobs roll alot less than I remember.

 

[SinatorJ]

...all I gotta say is 10 races this year, Maxxis tires, XC tubes (yes I said XC) and 0 flats this season.
and yes I ride for Go-ride.com

 

[me89]

since you used xc tubes what size tires do you run im just curious not bashin or notin like that.

 

[Acadian]

This was the first weekend I have spend alot of time on that Comp 16 2.5 tubeless setup and I am really happy with it. I ran them front and back in Durango. Just the right ammount of added rubber and traction, and the knobs roll alot less than I remember.

did they have the special trimming job?

 

[JohnnyBoyDH]

Just to jump in...I usually will run Maxxis Welterweight Tubes (XC Medium Duty) with 2.5" Maxxis Tires (Usually High Rollers or Minion F). But I am fairly lightweight 145lbs with gear. Only on a real nasty rocky course I might swap the rear tube to a DH tube.

 

[bizutch]

This is a pretty unprofessional post. If you have a differing opinion about a product, post your opinion about the product, don't slander other posters. Your whole post just says the original poster is wrong or deliberately lying, and of course you don’t seem to have any real basis for how you know this. You don't post a single fact, or for that matter personal opinion, why Michy tires are better than or as good as Maxxis tires.

If I was running SEI racing I would be pretty disappointed in a post like this coming from a team member, and I would expect an apology.

AHHHH HAAA!!! HHEEEE HEEEEE!!! I did it again....got somebody to go from zero to pissy in 1 post!

Let's review my "slander", shall we:

Originally Posted by leprechaun
Tires tires tires.
Sooo personal.....(precursing this is going to be a biased statement) this is just pointing out that he says tires are personal choice, and he's expressing his own
Some people love michies,and some get paid to ride em.(got a list of people that Michelin pays?)what's so rude about this one...it's a question? ......mich ruber is fairly soft,and not slow rebounding.Off the back compared to other offerings. (Red flag: personal statement due to lack of knowledge) last time I checked "off the back" was a magazine review terminology so it's his opinion The casing is not as pinch flat resistant either (b/c he says so)I've pinch flatted more Maxxis tires than Michelin tires....don't here me making a statement saying Michelin flats less. Unless he's got a machine that pinch flat tests a few dozen tires a year, it's just his guess .......minion/hr combo is the choice of our team too,based on trying out the options. (red Flag II: maybe cause that's who gives you tires?) he admited they give him tires...he'd be an idiot to trash a sponsor, so his post is therefore biased
......-mich could be great fr tires. (if they gave you free ones and told you to say so?) sly reference that maybe if he were running free Michelin's, he'd re-write this whole post and switch the names
peace (Anarchist) this one's pure BS...and me being a smartass. I never fail at that....


As for an apology....I never apologize for trash talking. You should spend an afternoon with Steve at the Michelin tent to get a formal education in Sarcasm and Trash Talk 101 Man, if you get this uptight when I post BS, I can't imagine how tight your sphincter gets every time JP opens his sesspool of a mouth...that cocky ego-centric, mushmouth redneck frat boy!

Last but not least....I hope you start laughing by the time you finish reading this post knowing that I'm just yankin' your chain. If you've hung around JP at all, you should know the rules of engagement. If you get mad, I win! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:

 

[bizutch]

Oh, and that non-production one-off 2.4 Michelin had the most itty bitty little side knobs and almost no center knobs. It was pure FEAR! It rolled ridiculously fast...and when you hit the brakes...I'm not sure, but I think it got faster. Michelin was kind enough to give us some but we never really found a course that they actually worked well on. They almost seemed like a tire NICO had made for him to race Big Bear on?

 

[Mani_UT]

...all I gotta say is 10 races this year, Maxxis tires, XC tubes (yes I said XC) and 0 flats this season.
and yes I ride for Go-ride.com

All I gotta say is 10 races this year, Michelin UST tires, no freaking tubes and 0 flats this season (and none the one before).
and yes I ride for Go-ride.com too (I am ze token rebel though)

 

[Jeremy R]

All I gotta say is 10 races this year, Michelin UST tires, no freaking tubes and 0 flats this season (and none the one before).
and yes I ride for Go-ride.com too (I am ze token rebel though)

Did JP give you his retina burning bright yellow and blue Michelin jersey he rocked out for years?
We go way back.
"Hardtail DH racing on 2 inch elastomer forks" kind of way back.

 

[ssaddict]

Oh, and that non-production one-off 2.4 Michelin had the most itty bitty little side knobs and almost no center knobs. It was pure FEAR! It rolled ridiculously fast...and when you hit the brakes...I'm not sure, but I think it got faster. Michelin was kind enough to give us some but we never really found a course that they actually worked well on. They almost seemed like a tire NICO had made for him to race Big Bear on?

So you do understand why I want some of them Michy's, its also the same reason I liked the Highroller/Semi Slick combo. Fast tires! neaky:

Well I haven't done sh*t for races this year but I didn't have a flat at Schweitzer, so that should say something. But I've always had pretty good luck with most tubeless setups regardless of brand.

 

[James | Go-Ride]

All I gotta say is 10 races this year, Michelin UST tires, no freaking tubes and 0 flats this season (and none the one before).
and yes I ride for Go-ride.com too (I am ze token rebel though)

But you're the slowest guy on the team except for me, Manny . . .

 

[Heath Sherratt]

Wow, so much help here. I guess I'll run WTB or try some Kendas...

 

[Acadian]

Wow, so much help here. I guess I'll run WTB or try some Kendas...

from what I heard/read

Kenda = GOOD

I also want to try them out - especially the Nevegal's

 

[Heath Sherratt]

You would just lose on the rolling resistance, they have some serious knobs. Maybe the kollossal in the rear.

 

[Mani_UT]

But you're the slowest guy on the team except for me, Manny . . .

hoooooo that was harsh
Somehow I believe the tires have nothing to do with my speed (or therefore lack off). If Maxxis were to make me faster I'd be on them in a second.

No I think my problem has more to do with my skirt getting caught in my chainguide or something :eviltongu

 

[Acadian]

hoooooo that was harsh
Somehow I believe the tires have nothing to do with my speed (or therefore lack off). If Maxxis were to make me faster I'd be on them in a second.

No I think my problem has more to do with my skirt getting caught in my chainguide or something :eviltongu

you would probably be Slower-er if you were on Maxxis