[chicodude]

Okay, I feel super lame posting this, but i need help.


I have a maxxis mobster 2.5 wirebead tire that I am trying to mount to a azonic outlaw rim. now, i got the front tire on fine, but the back tire is being a bitch and not wanting to mount.


Any tips?

 

[vwmtnbiker]

use a little water to help things move a little more freely, and a good pair of tire levers?

 

[punkassean]

get one side on, be sure that the bead is sitting down in the channel of the rim completely. Start the second bead and then starting from the bottom work the slack around from each side and gather it all up top. The tire should go on easier now, you still might need a tire lever though. Windex also helps to lubricate...

 

[gschuette]

I like to use rubbing alcohol for lube. When using a lever to get a tire on, which should be a last resort, reach in and push the tube as far away from the edge of the rim as you can. Just take a break and go back with some determination. You will get it on, don't worry.

 

[-dustin]

you know, it'd be amusing if you were trying to mount a 24 onto a 26.

but yeah, in times of need, i use water.

 

[vitox]

you know, it'd be amusing if you were trying to mount a 24 onto a 26.

haha, well if he had indeed managed to get one side of a 24 onto a 26 rim, then i guess his custom title should be "dyslectic hercules"

 

[binary visions]

I like to use rubbing alcohol for lube.

Do that, and then toss a match on the rim. The heat will cause the tire to mount easier.

Oh, and take pictures.

 

[Acadian]

"soapy" water

 

[J_B]

Motion Lotion.....I mean soapy water.

 

[Kntr]

I never had a problem with mounting maxxis tires on my outlaws. The only problem I had with my set of outlaw wheels was flex in rock gardens from the outlaws. Instead of soap use baby powder and make sure you get the tire in the rim channel on the opposite side you are mounting it on. I have seen guys use soapy water and then in a few months when they change tires the tire still has water in it.

I dont understand why so many people complain about mounting tires. I never have problems. I have even put 24x 3.0 Gazzos on 24" Rhino Lites in 40 degree weather. Maybe its the tools you are using. I can change a tube on the trail faster than most XC guys can with there super flimsy tires. I run 2.5 Maxxis DH tires on 321s. If you carry the correct tools and get the tire in the channel on the opposite tire, it should be cake. I use two small screwdrivers to get that last bit of tire to pop on the rim.

FYI, be careful with your outlaw wheels if you are running the azonic hubs that usually the wheels are built up with. If you are running other hubs disregaurd.... The front 20mm has 2 steel rings inside that WILL rust. I only had my wheels on a few months and the rings started to rust and almost ruined my thru axle. Make sure you clean your thru axle and inside of the 20mm azonic hub every once in awhile. Maybe even spray some WD40 on the rings or thru axle. Yes I know WD40 is an evil name but you dont want the hub to rust

 

[brake_and_bleed]

i have this problem with my michy' mud 3's...
if you just keep stretching the bead, it will [in the end] get longer, which with michy tyres means it cant be used on tubeless rims.
theres the old myth of the washing up liquid but i found that useless.
the other option is good old muscle strength! [and a set of metal tyre levers ,just watch out for that nice anodised look to wear off your rim!]

 

[bizutch]

find a way to warm the tire up. a hot tire will be easier to stretch over the rim. leaving it out in the cold or shade will make it hard as a rock. if you're in a warm climate....sit the tire out in the sun. if it's in your garage in a warm climate, lay it on top of your hot water heater. it will go right on.

 

[binary visions]

find a way to warm the tire up.

Like I said.

Alcohol and a match.

Warm that puppy right up.

 

[MikeD]

Exactly. Wait until the rim is in heat, and the tire will mount it all on its own.

[snorting horse sound]

MD

 

[Kornphlake]

I never had a problem with mounting maxxis tires on my outlaws...
...I use two small screwdrivers to get that last bit of tire to pop on the rim....

There's the key, you're using the wrong tool for the right job, I do the same thing and while it does scar the edge of the rim a little bit it saves me lots of time. I bought a cheap flat blade screwdriver and pounded it with a hammer so that the end has a slight crook so that I can use it to get tires off too. I broke about a dozen of the plastic tire levers trying to get tires on and off with them before I finally decieded to be a rebel and use a screwdriver.

 

[MikeD]

There's the key, you're using the wrong tool for the right job, I do the same thing and while it does scar the edge of the rim a little bit it saves me lots of time. I bought a cheap flat blade screwdriver and pounded it with a hammer so that the end has a slight crook so that I can use it to get tires off too. I broke about a dozen of the plastic tire levers trying to get tires on and off with them before I finally decieded to be a rebel and use a screwdriver.

Or you could have bought a metal tire lever...they sell for $4 at wal-mart (little ones), or you can get a big long one for $8 at a moto shop, or pay $15 for a "DH lever" with a nice plastic handle.

Or you can mod your old screwdrivers, of course.

MD

PS ATT maintenance later this month?

 

[binary visions]

Exactly. Wait until the rim is in heat, and the tire will mount it all on its own.

I almost choked on my coffee.

Thanks, you owe me a new keyboard.

 

[Softy]

Maxxis has given me the same problem. Try mounting the tight side first. ie mount it from the other side of the rim.

My maxxixs had one bead that was smaller than the other. GLTY

 

[SuperSlow]

search online for ti tire lev ers

 

[MikeD]

I almost choked on my coffee.

Thanks, you owe me a new keyboard.

w0w! Thx 4 kwoting me in ur sig!

 

[Kntr]

I have the small metal tire levers that I carry on the trail but I use the screwdriver method at home. If your worried about scratching your rim just put a towel over the screwdriver. It works great except when the towel gets caught in the bead.

You could also buy the DH tire lever but screwdrivers work just as well.

 

[Kornphlake]

PS ATT maintenance later this month?

Sent you an email

 

[RhinofromWA]

find a way to warm the tire up. a hot tire will be easier to stretch over the rim. leaving it out in the cold or shade will make it hard as a rock. if you're in a warm climate....sit the tire out in the sun. if it's in your garage in a warm climate, lay it on top of your hot water heater. it will go right on.

For Motorcycle tires we would set them on top of the engine after we got home from buying one at the shop and shut the hood. Same idea.

Use baby powder on the tube atleast and go ahead and use it on the bead. you can also use soapy water on the bead...just be careful not to make the powder all caked with the soapy water.

It is rare that I have not been able to get a tire on by hand....but I bought some metal tire irons, just in case. Usually I grunt get mad and jsut about tear the skin off my hands forcign them on. I foudn if you keep pressing/pushing/pulling/*cussing*/praying....and slowing working the tire one....it will finally give in.

 

[dexterq20]

I have the small metal tire levers that I carry on the trail but I use the screwdriver method at home. If your worried about scratching your rim just put a towel over the screwdriver. It works great except when the towel gets caught in the bead.

You could also buy the DH tire lever but screwdrivers work just as well.

NO NO NO!!! BAD!!! :nuts:

You should never have to use tire levers to install a tire. If for some reason you feel that you do, that means you need to spend more time at the gym. Tires get mounted by hand; levers will pinch your tube and scratch your rim.

 

[chicodude]

Well, Ben you are once again........WRONG

Dude, the hulk would had a hard time mounting this tire, but i went up to the LBS borrowed two fatty tire irons and voila, one mounted tire


http://img77.exs.cx/img77/1651/your0jc.jpg

 

[Kornphlake]

I was hoping to see a picture of the fatty tire lever :angry: I disagree with Dexter though, tire levers while not absolutely necessary, are a tool designed to make life easier. If you use them as a tool with some skill your chances of not pinching the tube are just as good as your chances of not pinching the tube putting it on by hand. I've managed to pinch several tubes when putting tires on by hand because I get in such a hurry that I don't take the time to tuck the tube up and out of the way.

 

[-dustin]

i had never pinched a tube with levers till this summer, when i used the plastic Park levers. 3 dang tubes in one sitting. that pissed me off. went back to the 99 cent black ones with the red sheath.

 

[bizutch]

Steve at Michelin always seats the tire on the rim 180 degrees away from the valve stem and finishes at the valve stem because it prevents pinch flats since that is where the tube is thickest and easiest to keep from pinch flatting. I haven't pinched a tube in 3 years once he showed me that.

 

[Axis]

NO NO NO!!! BAD!!! :nuts:

You should never have to use tire levers to install a tire. If for some reason you feel that you do, that means you need to spend more time at the gym. Tires get mounted by hand; levers will pinch your tube and scratch your rim.

Ya that is what I thought for the last 20 years until I got Mag30's. There is noway you can get a tire on those without a lever.

 

[Zaskar Rider]

Ya that is what I thought for the last 20 years until I got Mag30's. There is noway you can get a tire on those without a lever.

yeah, I think mag30's and nokian gazzi jrs. has got to be one of the worst combos out there to mount a tire.

 

[chicodude]

that's too good. Can we change chico's title to that? that's f'in awesome!

Meh, I'd rather have "custom title"