i hope you spend eternity in a Super WalMart.
McCain for Nuclear Power: Good or Bad?
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damn i was gonna respond with a comment about it being the government's responsibility to dump money into nation building abroad.
Mm.. even more yummy when there is oil... lots and lots of oil involved and bonus points for it also bordering on one of the most confrontational countries in the region placing it well within invasion distance.
preemptive war with Iran, that whole notion does violence to my brain.
Why is it that anything conservatives think is a good idea, it is ok for the gov't to spend plenty of money, but anything they think it is a bad idea, then "it is the free market's job"?
Why not give subsidies to solar power? Reduce gasoline taxes on biodiesel? Or raise taxes on gas-guzzlers?
I know we are going to be Iraq for many years. But let's try to get out of one quagmire before it pulls our entire energy plan into the pit?
having a huge military presence of combat veterns in the SW Asia = Priceless!!!
Sanj, your hitting on the great paradox of neo conservatism...
They are all about small government, then they take away Constitutional rights, expand the power of the executive branch, and spend all they money they DONT have (cuz they cut taxes ya know) on wars (drugs, terror, same **** different name).
In the end you get what is effectively an authoritarian big government that runs on the platform of small government.
makes no sense
EDIT: now don't get me wrong, I'm conservative too, and there are plenty of Republicans that don't buy into the bs, but all of this crap kind of damages true conservatism. Like a step forward and two back.
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well, the gov has been dumping money into alternative energy for years and what do we have to show?
It will take the free market (demand) to bring it to the main stream.. without demand, no amount of gov $'s is going to advance anything
yeah thats the situation
Yes and the fact that McCain had the nerve to play the "I was in the military so I by default make good decisions about it and you don't." card pissed me off.
That attitude pretty much embodies his authoritarian ideals as well as takes a massive dump on democracy.
That attitude pretty much embodies his authoritarian ideals as well as takes a massive dump on democracy.
dont fret, obama will just wave his magic 'wand' over you and all will be ok.
I'm so glad you are finally paying attention.
Injured troops shipped back into battle
Salon has uncovered further evidence that the military sent soldiers with acute post-traumatic stress disorder, severe back injuries and other serious war wounds back to Iraq.
you've nailed the concept of my (prescient?
) $20/gal gas thread with this statement.
Jesus christ, being a self-proclaimed libertarian sure doesn't make you an economist or a technologist.
First, the government has been trickling money into alternative energy, and there is a shocking amount to show for it. Wind and solar efficiencies have increased by magnitudes. Fuel cell technologies are becoming viable. Tidal is becoming a possibility. Geothermal can be more broadly applied. It is government and academia's job to develop critical technologies to the stage where they are technically viable and present a reasonable opportunity of profitability, then let industry take over. The mistake we usually make is to subsidize technologies into market viability (see ethanol) which ****s up market forces, but that comes chronologically after the role they absolutely should be playing and are playing right now, albeit not enough.
Government's role is ALSO to prevent monopolistic practices that prevent ne market entrants (alternatives) which is exactly what they have not done with oil.
Finally, governments role is to make sure market prices reflect true prices to society of a good, through appropriate taxation, i.e. if coal requires ripping the tops off of mountains and polluting waterways that extend far beyond the property rights owned by power companies and impacting whole wildlife ecosystems that "belong" to all americans, the cost of that should be reflected either through heavy land-use costs, taxes on the resultant good, or penalties for the violations.
You really think you can explain externalities to that abortion?
If you manage to do that, you should probably lay your hands on the next handicapped person you come across...I bet they'd get right up out of the wheelchair and walk.
since the time of the ancient Egyptians there's nothing like a good military campaign to make a few bucks.
While I disagree with most conservative ideas, I dislike hypocrisy. I think big government does have some problems, but if you are to spend money on "security" then none on "education" or other social issues, that's bad.
They volunteered, you bleeding heart commie pinko. **** em'...
Glad I could help.your self-righteousness makes me giggle
First line is self-righteousness. Everything else is an honest effort to get you to think before you type. I think I liked cut-and-paste Neight better.
Faith in the free market without understanding it is just wishful thinking that makes it harder for the rest of us to get anything actually productive or useful done. Like a furious creationist railing against science on his box-o'-quantum computer, you remain blissfully unaware that the goods (e.g. airplanes) you benefit from and that generate billions in economic growth wouldn't exist had they not been kickstarted by government "subsidies." That you can at the same time argue for nuclear power and against government involvement in technology development makes my brain hurt.
No really, he's actually retarded.
Must spread rep, dammit.
Imagine if the Shrub had dumped a trillion dollars into the development of fusion technology.
I mean, even if it'd failed, at least it would have been a noble goal, right? And if he'd succeeded, he'd be on par with Jesus...
I think GWB classifies Iraqi oil as "alternative fuel" as it's not from Texas.Dumping money?
Here is a simple graph about money spent on alternative fuel sources vs our expenditure in Iraq:
w3rd....